Contract exentions with online leagues

SteveBsFan · 07-11-2003, 06:03 PM

Has anyone had this issue before? I have been doing contract exentions for my online league, and many of the guys have an extremely short temper. One guy for example rejected and offer and said that was his last chance for the first offer given.

I could understand one or two cases like that, but many times I am lucky to get a 3rd shot at offering an extension before they say forget it for good.

I have all the latest patches and it really doesn't happen in my solo leagues. Actually I could offer players new contracts about 5-6 times sometimes before they reject me in solo leagues.

On a side note - Does anyone know about MLB contracts? I know ootp is pretty similar where years 3-6 are arb years and post year 6 is the FA year, but how do they handle the rookie part? Is it just like OOTP where even if you get called up for 10 games a year for your first 3 years, you are then eligible for arb? Or do they make exceptions for september call ups? Thanks!

Ragin Cajun · 07-12-2003, 01:13 PM

Not sure on the last part of your question.

I also have the latest patches, and am seeing a lot of players rejecting after the second offer and not allowing any further negotiation.

This isn't so bad as I have a cap of three offers in my league; and I am seeing more "definite requests" from players with the latest two patches (i.e. I want 5 years at 2.3 mill) instead of the infamous "Let me hear your offer". So owners that are losing players now are mainly the ones trying to underbid the players request.

kq76 · 07-12-2003, 01:38 PM

I used to have this problem too, but I think:

1) You have to have a good sense of what players are worth. A quick and easy way is to use the "display all players of league" button on the almanac screen and sort by salary. But maybe a better but more time consuming way is searching via similar ratings.

2) Be fair, don't be cheap. I'm cheap irl and I extend it to online, but you'll run into problems in ootp if you're not fair with your offers.

3) If you're going to be really upset if you don't sign a certain player, then offer him the max of what you're willing to pay him. You might feel a bit ripped off, but at least you won't be upset with losing him.

LivnLegend · 07-12-2003, 02:28 PM

Also, arbitration eligible players have an extremely short bargaining fuse. I have seen players stop talking to you after one rejected offer.

WLight · 07-12-2003, 03:45 PM

In MLB the rules regarding arbitration are more complicated than in OOTP5. In OOTP5 you call a guy up, the clock immediately starts ticking and he counts as being in "year 0" of his free agency countdown. MLB actually counts games played. Don't know what the actual numbers are though.

07-11-2003, 06:03 PM	#1
SteveBsFan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 69	Contract exentions with online leagues Has anyone had this issue before? I have been doing contract exentions for my online league, and many of the guys have an extremely short temper. One guy for example rejected and offer and said that was his last chance for the first offer given. I could understand one or two cases like that, but many times I am lucky to get a 3rd shot at offering an extension before they say forget it for good. I have all the latest patches and it really doesn't happen in my solo leagues. Actually I could offer players new contracts about 5-6 times sometimes before they reject me in solo leagues. On a side note - Does anyone know about MLB contracts? I know ootp is pretty similar where years 3-6 are arb years and post year 6 is the FA year, but how do they handle the rookie part? Is it just like OOTP where even if you get called up for 10 games a year for your first 3 years, you are then eligible for arb? Or do they make exceptions for september call ups? Thanks!

07-12-2003, 01:13 PM	#2
Ragin Cajun All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Atascosita, TX Posts: 1,173	Not sure on the last part of your question. I also have the latest patches, and am seeing a lot of players rejecting after the second offer and not allowing any further negotiation. This isn't so bad as I have a cap of three offers in my league; and I am seeing more "definite requests" from players with the latest two patches (i.e. I want 5 years at 2.3 mill) instead of the infamous "Let me hear your offer". So owners that are losing players now are mainly the ones trying to underbid the players request. __________________ Former NBSL Commissioner: 16 years Former Online League Owner; six time champion

07-12-2003, 01:38 PM	#3
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 12,094	I used to have this problem too, but I think: 1) You have to have a good sense of what players are worth. A quick and easy way is to use the "display all players of league" button on the almanac screen and sort by salary. But maybe a better but more time consuming way is searching via similar ratings. 2) Be fair, don't be cheap. I'm cheap irl and I extend it to online, but you'll run into problems in ootp if you're not fair with your offers. 3) If you're going to be really upset if you don't sign a certain player, then offer him the max of what you're willing to pay him. You might feel a bit ripped off, but at least you won't be upset with losing him. __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project) For Beta/Devs: Full screen (1920x1080)

07-12-2003, 02:28 PM	#4
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	Also, arbitration eligible players have an extremely short bargaining fuse. I have seen players stop talking to you after one rejected offer. __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

07-12-2003, 03:45 PM	#5
WLight Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: CA Posts: 314	In MLB the rules regarding arbitration are more complicated than in OOTP5. In OOTP5 you call a guy up, the clock immediately starts ticking and he counts as being in "year 0" of his free agency countdown. MLB actually counts games played. Don't know what the actual numbers are though.