What does (Fo) mean....

rudyt2039 · 12-17-2022, 01:18 PM

next to a players name and how do I fix it?

LansdowneSt · 12-17-2022, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rudyt2039

next to a players name and how do I fix it?

Follower. Assuming you are using an "Opener", this pitcher would be the longer inning "Follower"

Pelican · 12-17-2022, 07:38 PM

My advice would be to toggle off Openers and avoid this particular rabbit hole. It is one of those brilliant concepts that has not panned out IRL. Good way to roast your bullpen for no particular reason. Unless of course you have ten guys in the bullpen and no bench. LOL.

PSUColonel · 12-17-2022, 07:51 PM

There is nothing here to fix...it means your staff (or you) have set this pitcher as a follower.

MathBandit · 12-17-2022, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican

My advice would be to toggle off Openers and avoid this particular rabbit hole. It is one of those brilliant concepts that has not panned out IRL. Good way to roast your bullpen for no particular reason. Unless of course you have ten guys in the bullpen and no bench. LOL.

I agree that my experience is OOTP hasn't managed to implement Openers as well in their engine as it is IRL. IRL it's a cheat code and every team should be doing it every game, but when I last tried to run a full-opener staff (which, tbf, was I think OOTP21 since OOTP couldn't handle it) it left everyone gassed at all times.

Pelican · 12-17-2022, 10:55 PM

Anecdotal (I haven’t done a study; but recall one from Baseball Prospectus), but I suspect using an opener backfires as often as it succeeds. The best use seems to be a decent reliever for an inning or two, and then a proven starter. But what if the reliever get in trouble, say in the second inning. Do you bring in the starting pitcher as a “follower”? Remember, this is a guy who may never have entered a baseball game with inherited runners on base. That’s a big adjustment.

More common than the above use of an opener seems to be the “bullpen game”, where some random reliever pitches first, and then a bunch of guys contribute an inning or two. But it’s a risky trade-off, resting your starters for a day, while using most of your bullpen. If each of four or five relievers throws 25 pitches, not so bad. But what are the chances of that? If things go awry, you may use the whole bullpen to throw, say, 175 pitches total. Then who pitches the next night, when the (rested) starter gets knocked out early?

I suppose you could assemble a roster of openers and followers, and groom pitchers for these roles. But then you are all-in, and it would be hard to maintain a standard rotation at the same time. I mean, you only have so many pitchers, and they can’t pitch every day.

To me, the opener/follower routine is another gimmick of sorts, perhaps worth trying, but not producing good results. I don’t mean to suggest it should be banned. It’s fine to have a trial and error, and some innovation. The lack of success and the difficulty establishing roles has limited and reduced its use. I think it will die a natural death, so to speak.

rudyt2039 · 12-20-2022, 09:05 AM

need help

kq76 · 12-20-2022, 09:22 AM

Rudy:

To change a single player from being a follower:

-right-click on the player's name, select "Set Game Strategy", scroll down on the right, and uncheck the "Use as Follower" box.

To disable openers/followers altogether:

-click on your league's name, click on "Stats & AI", scroll down on the left and from the "Use of Openers" pull-down select "0 (Never)".

12-17-2022, 01:18 PM	#1
rudyt2039 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 51	What does (Fo) mean.... next to a players name and how do I fix it? __________________ Rusty Tondee

12-17-2022, 07:38 PM	#3
Pelican Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Wilmington, Delaware Posts: 3,216	My advice would be to toggle off Openers and avoid this particular rabbit hole. It is one of those brilliant concepts that has not panned out IRL. Good way to roast your bullpen for no particular reason. Unless of course you have ten guys in the bullpen and no bench. LOL. __________________ Pelican OOTP 2020-? ”Hard to believe, Harry.”

12-17-2022, 10:55 PM	#6
Pelican Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Wilmington, Delaware Posts: 3,216	Anecdotal (I haven’t done a study; but recall one from Baseball Prospectus), but I suspect using an opener backfires as often as it succeeds. The best use seems to be a decent reliever for an inning or two, and then a proven starter. But what if the reliever get in trouble, say in the second inning. Do you bring in the starting pitcher as a “follower”? Remember, this is a guy who may never have entered a baseball game with inherited runners on base. That’s a big adjustment. More common than the above use of an opener seems to be the “bullpen game”, where some random reliever pitches first, and then a bunch of guys contribute an inning or two. But it’s a risky trade-off, resting your starters for a day, while using most of your bullpen. If each of four or five relievers throws 25 pitches, not so bad. But what are the chances of that? If things go awry, you may use the whole bullpen to throw, say, 175 pitches total. Then who pitches the next night, when the (rested) starter gets knocked out early? I suppose you could assemble a roster of openers and followers, and groom pitchers for these roles. But then you are all-in, and it would be hard to maintain a standard rotation at the same time. I mean, you only have so many pitchers, and they can’t pitch every day. To me, the opener/follower routine is another gimmick of sorts, perhaps worth trying, but not producing good results. I don’t mean to suggest it should be banned. It’s fine to have a trial and error, and some innovation. The lack of success and the difficulty establishing roles has limited and reduced its use. I think it will die a natural death, so to speak. __________________ Pelican OOTP 2020-? ”Hard to believe, Harry.”

12-20-2022, 09:05 AM	#7
rudyt2039 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 51	How to get rid of (Fo)? need help __________________ Rusty Tondee

12-20-2022, 09:22 AM	#8
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 12,036	Rudy: To change a single player from being a follower: -right-click on the player's name, select "Set Game Strategy", scroll down on the right, and uncheck the "Use as Follower" box. To disable openers/followers altogether: -click on your league's name, click on "Stats & AI", scroll down on the left and from the "Use of Openers" pull-down select "0 (Never)". __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project) For Beta/Devs: Full screen (1920x1080)

12-17-2022, 07:51 PM	#4
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,141	There is nothing here to fix...it means your staff (or you) have set this pitcher as a follower.