Mvp

CHCfan · 01-18-2003, 11:06 PM

Anyone else think that MVP "voting results" would be cool to see at the end of the season? For example, to see if anyone thought your player deserved the top honor.

Maybe when you're the coach in OOTP5, you could even submit your votes for the awards (I know coaches don't vote, but still...)

Sirhawk · 01-19-2003, 04:43 PM

I will go one better, I think you should have the control on how an MVP is picked, and how the Pitcher's MVP is picked...have the abiltiy to decide what makes an MVP, personally, I think on the pitchers end, MVP tends to lean a little too much to wins instead of ERA as a pitcher has little to do with their offense and can't help it if his team only gives him one run in 7 innings. I think the same thing can be done for allstars too...some sort of requirement setup that you can taylor make yourself.

-Sirhawk

HolyCow98 · 01-20-2003, 02:10 AM

I just had a 16 game winner with 2.03 ERA beat out a 22-5 pitcher with a 3.38 ERA for the Cy Young.

Jimmy Jack · 01-20-2003, 06:56 AM

I would like to see the MVP/Cy Young/ROY awards expanded a little bit. I'm not sure how easy it would be to implement the voting system we have in the majors, but at the very least I would like to know who finished second and third.

CHCfan · 01-20-2003, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by Jimmy Jack
I would like to see the MVP/Cy Young/ROY awards expanded a little bit. I'm not sure how easy it would be to implement the voting system we have in the majors, but at the very least I would like to know who finished second and third.

Yeah, that's really all I need, I'm curious about how closeother players came to winning the award

rogmax11 · 01-21-2003, 12:38 PM

I have been asking for this for years.

It would be so cool to have a top 5 or top 10 list of candidates for awards and leave the final selection up to the game player. The newspaper or ESPN type format would add a nice touch of "reality" doncha think?

kq76 · 01-29-2003, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by HolyCow98
I just had a 16 game winner with 2.03 ERA beat out a 22-5 pitcher with a 3.38 ERA for the Cy Young.

Was this award chosen by ootp, or you? If the former, I'm really surprised. I'm curious, what were the IP for each?

kq76 · 01-29-2003, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by Sirhawk
personally, I think on the pitchers end, MVP tends to lean a little too much to wins instead of ERA as a pitcher has little to do with their offense and can't help it if his team only gives him one run in 7 innings.

There's many good arguments on both sides, which is more important, Wins or ERA. I don't think it is as clear cut as many people suggest.

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Originally posted by Sirhawk
some sort of requirement setup that you can taylor make yourself.

I would love this. This is what I've done with my own excel workbook. For example, the pitcher award depends on a minimum # of IP, then depends on a combination Wins, ERA and IP, whereas the batter award depends strictly on XR, MVP on XWins. I think this might be complicated to accomodate most people's preferences however.

gmo · 03-03-2003, 10:28 PM

Yes, something like the Top 10 in the MVP (and other) award balloting with maybe something like the real points that show how close the race was.

OOTP picking MVP and the like is fine IMO, but I might like adding "Player's Association" awards (like the NHLPA Lester Pearson award) where we could select the winners. Maybe just open up some # of slots where the player can make up everything about the award and pick the winners.

woody5254 · 03-04-2003, 12:34 PM

I would also love to see the voting for each of the awards. That would be a great new feature. I would like to see the top 10 in the vote. It would also be cool if each team got a vote, so you as an owner or manager could cast a vote each year.

Dark Horse · 03-04-2003, 01:51 PM

i really would like something like SirHawk's suggestion. Where we get to choose how much weight to put on each stat.

But GMO's suggestion would be nice if SirHawk's is not feasible.

Hetz · 03-06-2003, 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by gmo
Yes, something like the Top 10 in the MVP (and other) award balloting with maybe something like the real points that show how close the race was.

OOTP picking MVP and the like is fine IMO, but I might like adding "Player's Association" awards (like the NHLPA Lester Pearson award) where we could select the winners. Maybe just open up some # of slots where the player can make up everything about the award and pick the winners.

I would love to see this!

Rockpile · 03-07-2003, 12:05 PM

Well, "Wins" is a stat that's not really up to the pitcher. ERA (while defense factors in) is more of a true stat.

If you get no run support does that make you a crappy pitcher?

The REAL tweak is that GREAT pitching in Coors needs to be rewarded ala Jason Jennings.

HAS ANYONE HAD A COORS PITCHER WIN ANYTHING?

Joe Canadian · 03-07-2003, 01:45 PM

Manager Mode: The ability to vote on MVP, Cy Young, and ROY awards sort of like TCY handles the voting for awards. It would probably be a good idea to start with only those 3 awards, and maybe expand that number at a later date.

"Sandbox" Mode/On-Line Mode: The ability to select an option in the Leage Set-Up screen to either have the cpu pick those three awards automaticlly, or have the ability to choose the award winners yourself.

Any Thoughts?

baseballbob · 03-07-2003, 09:41 PM

If player popularity were ever implemented it could be an interesting variable in the 'awards mix'

01-18-2003, 11:06 PM	#1
CHCfan All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Grand Island, NE Posts: 1,117	Mvp Anyone else think that MVP "voting results" would be cool to see at the end of the season? For example, to see if anyone thought your player deserved the top honor. Maybe when you're the coach in OOTP5, you could even submit your votes for the awards (I know coaches don't vote, but still...)

01-20-2003, 02:10 AM	#3
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	I just had a 16 game winner with 2.03 ERA beat out a 22-5 pitcher with a 3.38 ERA for the Cy Young. __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

03-03-2003, 10:28 PM	#9
gmo Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 3,437	Yes, something like the Top 10 in the MVP (and other) award balloting with maybe something like the real points that show how close the race was. OOTP picking MVP and the like is fine IMO, but I might like adding "Player's Association" awards (like the NHLPA Lester Pearson award) where we could select the winners. Maybe just open up some # of slots where the player can make up everything about the award and pick the winners. __________________ Making Baseball Schedules

03-04-2003, 12:34 PM	#10
woody5254 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hector, NY Posts: 6,130	I would also love to see the voting for each of the awards. That would be a great new feature. I would like to see the top 10 in the vote. It would also be cool if each team got a vote, so you as an owner or manager could cast a vote each year. __________________ Check out: You Pick Tourney Version 2.0 Standings Thread You Pick The Teams Tourney: Main Thread The Colossal 20th Century Tourney:Main Thread Chicago White Sox(Original Owner:2001-) Baseball Maelstrom -2001,2011,2013 World Series Champions -2002,2010 Maelstrom Tourney Champs Arizona Diamondbacks(2003-) NAHHBL Indianapolis Racers(Expansion Team:1993-)ABC

03-04-2003, 01:51 PM	#11
Dark Horse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas! Posts: 2,633	i really would like something like SirHawk's suggestion. Where we get to choose how much weight to put on each stat. But GMO's suggestion would be nice if SirHawk's is not feasible. __________________ A Justafan Fan LBA Geo Bahn Rock Hounds fan of the ISLANDIAN PRO ALLIANCE

01-19-2003, 04:43 PM	#2
Sirhawk Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 96	I will go one better, I think you should have the control on how an MVP is picked, and how the Pitcher's MVP is picked...have the abiltiy to decide what makes an MVP, personally, I think on the pitchers end, MVP tends to lean a little too much to wins instead of ERA as a pitcher has little to do with their offense and can't help it if his team only gives him one run in 7 innings. I think the same thing can be done for allstars too...some sort of requirement setup that you can taylor make yourself. -Sirhawk

01-20-2003, 06:56 AM	#4
Jimmy Jack Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 117	I would like to see the MVP/Cy Young/ROY awards expanded a little bit. I'm not sure how easy it would be to implement the voting system we have in the majors, but at the very least I would like to know who finished second and third.

01-21-2003, 12:38 PM	#6
rogmax11 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,320	I have been asking for this for years. It would be so cool to have a top 5 or top 10 list of candidates for awards and leave the final selection up to the game player. The newspaper or ESPN type format would add a nice touch of "reality" doncha think?

03-07-2003, 12:05 PM	#13
Rockpile All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 620	Well, "Wins" is a stat that's not really up to the pitcher. ERA (while defense factors in) is more of a true stat. If you get no run support does that make you a crappy pitcher? The REAL tweak is that GREAT pitching in Coors needs to be rewarded ala Jason Jennings. HAS ANYONE HAD A COORS PITCHER WIN ANYTHING?

03-07-2003, 01:45 PM	#14
Joe Canadian All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 1,296	Manager Mode: The ability to vote on MVP, Cy Young, and ROY awards sort of like TCY handles the voting for awards. It would probably be a good idea to start with only those 3 awards, and maybe expand that number at a later date. "Sandbox" Mode/On-Line Mode: The ability to select an option in the Leage Set-Up screen to either have the cpu pick those three awards automaticlly, or have the ability to choose the award winners yourself. Any Thoughts? __________________ My Twitter \| My Blog \| My Music Fan of the Blue Jays, Maple Leafs, IceCaps, Lakers, and Broncos.

03-07-2003, 09:41 PM	#15
baseballbob Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 101	If player popularity were ever implemented it could be an interesting variable in the 'awards mix'