Another suggest for Markus and Co

soadeathdealer · 01-26-2012, 07:49 PM

My leagues run into the issue of the fa's wanting like almost 40 mil in contracts that's per yr. so my suggestion is to add a player contract cap that commishes and set so the fa's and players in general can't ask for more than what the commish sets for the league salary wise .

o and on a related note rename the player salary cap to to league salary cap cuz that is confusing as hell if u don't know its the salary cap from the beginning. and i have had ootp staff tell me its confusing to them as well and they had issues with there league cuz they thought it was for player contracts cap .

MooK881 · 01-26-2012, 09:13 PM

I would love to see a limit on player salaries...makes predicting financials better, especially since I use a salary cap...would be a great compliment

soadeathdealer · 01-26-2012, 10:34 PM

it would be very useful. i mean players each in game season want more and more money and u have to adjust the cap or the team income to keep up but thats a pain to have to do i mean u dont want a 200 mil cap . I mean it would be better to allow use as commishes to put a cape on what the players can ask for a salery and with that i know comes the AI would have to tweeked to look at the players value compared to the player contract cap so u dont have players that wanted 38 mil just turn around and want the max if the contract max was set to 22 mil . i mean before there isnt a cap so the the players value was based on something other than value base on a set money limit so caping the contracts the ai would also have to be tweaked to look at stats and ratings and compare that value based on the caped contract limit . i really want to see contract cap ablity and for use to be able to set it to what we want it to be . it can be done i know it can and i know it would take a bit of programing but the ai gets tweaked every game version anyways , and adding the extra options isnt hard its the AI thats the thing to deal with and getting it to go with the feature but its doable but wither its doable under Markus's budget is another

jarmenia · 01-27-2012, 09:14 AM

Another way this could be handled is to have the league financials grow by a certain percentage each year. Currently I do this by hand by upping the national and local media contracts for each team.

soadeathdealer · 01-27-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jarmenia

Another way this could be handled is to have the league financials grow by a certain percentage each year. Currently I do this by hand by upping the national and local media contracts for each team.

yea but then u still have players that want 40 mil contract or higher . having the league finances grow will allow teams to sign the hugh contracts but not limit them is all ur doing is making the salery cap higher or giving ur teams high budgets or cash . we have a cap for cash and a soft cap in my league and we dont want the finances to have to grow and grow and grow to ways everyone budget is over 200 mil or have the cash cap be like 90 mil . we just want an option to manually cap the contract demands at what we want so the finances dont have to be edited higher and higher and higher each yr . and yes i do understand what ur saying i have already posted what u mentioned in the post before this one , but player contracts get out of hand and u dont have a way to put ur foot down on the matter and u should as a commish . thats y i think u should have an option to set a number to cap the player contract demands at

ike121212 · 01-27-2012, 01:12 PM

Max contract amount, Max contract length, and cap hits (evenly allocated over the length of the deal) would all be nice to have. They'd go a long ways toward improving salary cap leagues.

Cooleyvol · 01-27-2012, 01:31 PM

I've asked for contract length settings already in another thread. A good idea, IMO.

SandMan · 01-27-2012, 01:42 PM

Salary caps just won't work. I say this because of this scenario:

Joe Superstar just hit 60HR and is making the Max salary. He is up to be a free agent but his team wants him, so the team that has his contract would only have to meet his current salary which is the salary cap to keep him. No free agency for this star player.

Scenario 2.

Mike Superstar had a great season and is only making 10M. He wants more money. 8 teams offer him the Max salary. Now which team gets the rights to Mike?

As long as there is money available the players will ask for more and more nothing can be done about this but to limit the income. Lower the media contracts and merchandising revenue. There really is no easy fix for this issue.

Athletics17 · 01-27-2012, 02:00 PM

I am going to play the devils advocate here but can't you adjust players demands in the financial settings for superstar, star, average player and so on? In my leagues I see the best players asking for more but not an insane amount over my settings. Fortunatley if a cap amount was included it would be an option at the users descretion, but in real life after the Pujols, Fielder, arod signings wouldn't that be a detriment to realism factors? No league with a players union in the modern era would allow it. But with that being said, I have no idea what type of league you like to play. It seems like this would make the league a lot easier to play because you can almost get any player you wanted IMO. Then again its your league and not mine.

ike121212 · 01-27-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Athletics17

I am going to play the devils advocate here but can't you adjust players demands in the financial settings for superstar, star, average player and so on? In my leagues I see the best players asking for more but not an insane amount over my settings. Fortunatley if a cap amount was included it would be an option at the users descretion, but in real life after the Pujols, Fielder, arod signings wouldn't that be a detriment to realism factors? No league with a players union in the modern era would allow it. But with that being said, I have no idea what type of league you like to play. It seems like this would make the league a lot easier to play because you can almost get any player you wanted IMO. Then again its your league and not mine.

The amount of available cash in the leagues drives the salaries, more than these settings.

As for Unions, the latest NBA contract might startle you. A FA contract has a max length of 4 years and a maximum salary, based on years of experience and the current cap. I'd just like to see some of the options available, to loosely reflect the NBA, NHL, or NFL. Massively escalating contracts was a killer in 12, to both cap leagues and leagues with no financial growth.

soadeathdealer · 01-27-2012, 04:07 PM

u can not set the player slaery in the commish settings that is only the AVG contracts . u can set the lowest salary u want in ur league however . i have the settings low and we have guys asking 45 mil max cash is 25 mil . soft cap of 120 30% tax if over that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athletics17

I am going to play the devils advocate here but can't you adjust players demands in the financial settings for superstar, star, average player and so on? In my leagues I see the best players asking for more but not an insane amount over my settings. Fortunatley if a cap amount was included it would be an option at the users descretion, but in real life after the Pujols, Fielder, arod signings wouldn't that be a detriment to realism factors? No league with a players union in the modern era would allow it. But with that being said, I have no idea what type of league you like to play. It seems like this would make the league a lot easier to play because you can almost get any player you wanted IMO. Then again its your league and not mine.

soadeathdealer · 01-27-2012, 04:11 PM

it would work because the teams finances change thats y there is the need to the contract cap in some leagues . u also have bonuses that would have an affect on wherer a player goes if like 4 teams off the same salery and also the player AI should be better and be kinda like real life players and have there own list per say

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Originally Posted by SandMan

Salary caps just won't work. I say this because of this scenario:

Joe Superstar just hit 60HR and is making the Max salary. He is up to be a free agent but his team wants him, so the team that has his contract would only have to meet his current salary which is the salary cap to keep him. No free agency for this star player.

Scenario 2.

Mike Superstar had a great season and is only making 10M. He wants more money. 8 teams offer him the Max salary. Now which team gets the rights to Mike?

As long as there is money available the players will ask for more and more nothing can be done about this but to limit the income. Lower the media contracts and merchandising revenue. There really is no easy fix for this issue.

Afino · 01-27-2012, 06:19 PM

I wish I could understand what you're wanting.....

Ktulu · 01-27-2012, 06:27 PM

No kidding. If you want people to pay attention to your ideas decent spelling and punctuation goes a long way.

Syd Thrift · 01-27-2012, 06:43 PM

Would I be off if I thought his next idea might be to have the option to put a team in P.Rico?

soadeathdealer · 01-27-2012, 07:19 PM

i had simply put that an option to cap player contract demands would be useful and would help the contract from getting out of hand .

And my spelling isn't the best but i dont think i have to spell out "you" when "u" will do and u try have 3 kids crawling on u all the time as u'r typing its not easy .

Anyways the option would be nice to have and I get tired of players wanting 40 something mil a yr that's out of hand so giving commishes the ability to have this option would be really nice .

soadeathdealer · 02-06-2012, 10:39 AM

I'd really like to hear others thoughts on this idea

joeyjojojrshabadoo · 02-06-2012, 11:05 AM

This would be a nice feature. I have asked in the past about this being an option. In current settings you have an average asking price but that's exactly what it is only an average. You'll always have extremes either way. Plus once you get into bidding wars with other teams the price will go way up. Putting a cap on what they can make will make a player use other factors in which team he decides to sign with, i.e. Cliff Lee liking Philadelphia schools for his kids. Hopefully with more involvement of story lines an option like this could be implemented more effectively.

01-26-2012, 07:49 PM	#1
soadeathdealer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: VA Posts: 2,152	Another suggestion for Markus and Co My leagues run into the issue of the fa's wanting like almost 40 mil in contracts that's per yr. so my suggestion is to add a player contract cap that commishes and set so the fa's and players in general can't ask for more than what the commish sets for the league salary wise . o and on a related note rename the player salary cap to to league salary cap cuz that is confusing as hell if u don't know its the salary cap from the beginning. and i have had ootp staff tell me its confusing to them as well and they had issues with there league cuz they thought it was for player contracts cap . __________________ Jerseys and caps/logos and more http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...%20and%20caps/ Leagues OOTP POTD: Vermont/Co-Commish MTBL: League Closed The Show: Jacksonville Bombers RFTP : Braves/co-commish: League Closed HRBL: Commish: League Closed DDSPF WWPF- Miami CSFL- Tampa USFL: New Orleans DDSCF SNCFL: Florida/ JMU Last edited by soadeathdealer; 02-06-2012 at 10:37 AM.

01-26-2012, 10:34 PM	#3
soadeathdealer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: VA Posts: 2,152	it would be very useful. i mean players each in game season want more and more money and u have to adjust the cap or the team income to keep up but thats a pain to have to do i mean u dont want a 200 mil cap . I mean it would be better to allow use as commishes to put a cape on what the players can ask for a salery and with that i know comes the AI would have to tweeked to look at the players value compared to the player contract cap so u dont have players that wanted 38 mil just turn around and want the max if the contract max was set to 22 mil . i mean before there isnt a cap so the the players value was based on something other than value base on a set money limit so caping the contracts the ai would also have to be tweaked to look at stats and ratings and compare that value based on the caped contract limit . i really want to see contract cap ablity and for use to be able to set it to what we want it to be . it can be done i know it can and i know it would take a bit of programing but the ai gets tweaked every game version anyways , and adding the extra options isnt hard its the AI thats the thing to deal with and getting it to go with the feature but its doable but wither its doable under Markus's budget is another __________________ Jerseys and caps/logos and more http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...%20and%20caps/ Leagues OOTP POTD: Vermont/Co-Commish MTBL: League Closed The Show: Jacksonville Bombers RFTP : Braves/co-commish: League Closed HRBL: Commish: League Closed DDSPF WWPF- Miami CSFL- Tampa USFL: New Orleans DDSCF SNCFL: Florida/ JMU

01-27-2012, 09:14 AM	#4
jarmenia Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL USA Posts: 4,503	Another way this could be handled is to have the league financials grow by a certain percentage each year. Currently I do this by hand by upping the national and local media contracts for each team. __________________ When is good enough, good enough?

01-27-2012, 01:42 PM	#8
SandMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,946	Salary caps just won't work. I say this because of this scenario: Joe Superstar just hit 60HR and is making the Max salary. He is up to be a free agent but his team wants him, so the team that has his contract would only have to meet his current salary which is the salary cap to keep him. No free agency for this star player. Scenario 2. Mike Superstar had a great season and is only making 10M. He wants more money. 8 teams offer him the Max salary. Now which team gets the rights to Mike? As long as there is money available the players will ask for more and more nothing can be done about this but to limit the income. Lower the media contracts and merchandising revenue. There really is no easy fix for this issue. Last edited by SandMan; 01-27-2012 at 01:43 PM.

01-27-2012, 02:00 PM	#9
Athletics17 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: jackson Hole, Wy Posts: 1,187	I am going to play the devils advocate here but can't you adjust players demands in the financial settings for superstar, star, average player and so on? In my leagues I see the best players asking for more but not an insane amount over my settings. Fortunatley if a cap amount was included it would be an option at the users descretion, but in real life after the Pujols, Fielder, arod signings wouldn't that be a detriment to realism factors? No league with a players union in the modern era would allow it. But with that being said, I have no idea what type of league you like to play. It seems like this would make the league a lot easier to play because you can almost get any player you wanted IMO. Then again its your league and not mine. __________________ Compilation of Uniforms

01-26-2012, 09:13 PM	#2
MooK881 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 178	I would love to see a limit on player salaries...makes predicting financials better, especially since I use a salary cap...would be a great compliment

01-27-2012, 01:12 PM	#6
ike121212 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 938	Max contract amount, Max contract length, and cap hits (evenly allocated over the length of the deal) would all be nice to have. They'd go a long ways toward improving salary cap leagues.

01-27-2012, 01:31 PM	#7
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	I've asked for contract length settings already in another thread. A good idea, IMO.

01-27-2012, 06:19 PM	#13
Afino Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,827	I wish I could understand what you're wanting..... __________________ GUBA: Moscow Enforcers

01-27-2012, 06:27 PM	#14
Ktulu Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BC Posts: 4,710	No kidding. If you want people to pay attention to your ideas decent spelling and punctuation goes a long way. __________________ "The ice is getting even more thinner, my friend!"

01-27-2012, 07:19 PM	#16
soadeathdealer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: VA Posts: 2,152	i had simply put that an option to cap player contract demands would be useful and would help the contract from getting out of hand . And my spelling isn't the best but i dont think i have to spell out "you" when "u" will do and u try have 3 kids crawling on u all the time as u'r typing its not easy . Anyways the option would be nice to have and I get tired of players wanting 40 something mil a yr that's out of hand so giving commishes the ability to have this option would be really nice . __________________ Jerseys and caps/logos and more http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...%20and%20caps/ Leagues OOTP POTD: Vermont/Co-Commish MTBL: League Closed The Show: Jacksonville Bombers RFTP : Braves/co-commish: League Closed HRBL: Commish: League Closed DDSPF WWPF- Miami CSFL- Tampa USFL: New Orleans DDSCF SNCFL: Florida/ JMU

02-06-2012, 10:39 AM	#17
soadeathdealer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: VA Posts: 2,152	I'd really like to hear others thoughts on this idea __________________ Jerseys and caps/logos and more http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...%20and%20caps/ Leagues OOTP POTD: Vermont/Co-Commish MTBL: League Closed The Show: Jacksonville Bombers RFTP : Braves/co-commish: League Closed HRBL: Commish: League Closed DDSPF WWPF- Miami CSFL- Tampa USFL: New Orleans DDSCF SNCFL: Florida/ JMU

02-06-2012, 11:05 AM	#18
joeyjojojrshabadoo Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 193	This would be a nice feature. I have asked in the past about this being an option. In current settings you have an average asking price but that's exactly what it is only an average. You'll always have extremes either way. Plus once you get into bidding wars with other teams the price will go way up. Putting a cap on what they can make will make a player use other factors in which team he decides to sign with, i.e. Cliff Lee liking Philadelphia schools for his kids. Hopefully with more involvement of story lines an option like this could be implemented more effectively.