Relievers converting to starters

[Aytumious]

I'm sure this has been discussed here somewhere, but I couldn't find anything with the search engine.

In the upcoming first year player draft, there is a complete stud MR prospect that has 74 endurance. He's already good enough to be thrown directly into my pen as a top reliever, and his high end projection as a reliever has him as a top notch closer.

He just turned 23 in March (the draft is in June). As a starter he'd be a top 5 in the league type guy. If I throw him into the starting rotation and perhaps set a pitch count, will his endurance go up, or is he a reliever for life?

[Who Killed Kenny?]

He could pontentially go up. Starters need to be over 100 endurance for the AI to consider them starters by themselves. But if you want to start him go for it. Make sure you change his position or your manager will pull him after 4 innings almost all the time. Since his endurance is weak you may also want to give him more time off.

I'm personally of the belief that all pitchers should have the capability of starting, but some are good at it, some aren't, and some are good (or bad) at both. This isn't necessarily the case in OOTP.

[Aytumious]

So do relievers turned starters actually gain endurance in OOTP9? Even if I could only get his endurance up to around 100, he'd be completely dominant for about 6 innings.

[conception]

I use the one to ten scale and usually guys who have over 6 can be considered starters and actually rate very well in that aspect. In fact, I often look in the draft for late round closers and relievers who can be converted because it multiplies their value tremendously. In my fictional league, my ace for ten years was a converted reliever. He never had incredible endurance but it didn't hurt him- nobody in my league has ever won the pitcher award more than him in their career.

[Aytumious]

His endurance is only 73 on the 200 point scale and he's already 23, so this probably wouldn't work for him.

I'll be on the lookout for relievers in later rounds with a bit higher endurance that may be convertable to SP.

[TwoThirtyTwo]

I've got a starter with a 56 endurance rating. I won't let him go over 100 pithes and he's gone 6+ innings in his 4 starts so far. I play out all of the games, so it's easy to keep track of him.

I think if you limit him to 100-105 pitches per start, he'll be fine. Just make sure you have a few MRs with high endurance ratings to cover the extra work.

[Syd Thrift]

I don't think Markus ever noted this here, but on the FOFC boards he said that he's tweaked the endurance ratings a little bit so that guys who are between I think 50 and 110 on the 200 point scale can still go out and give you about 100 pitches at a time. IME that's happening.

[Greatgrampa]

I am finding that to be true as well. Personally, I always prefer middle relievers to starters and in fact never pick a starter. I use five MR's for my starters and most of them, although only rated at somewhere around sixty, can pitch at least 100 pitches before they get tired. Of course I play all my games out or no doubt the AI wouldn't do this. So far, my staff is doing very well.

[Dave1408]

Originally Posted by Greatgrampa

I am finding that to be true as well. Personally, I always prefer middle relievers to starters and in fact never pick a starter. I use five MR's for my starters and most of them, although only rated at somewhere around sixty, can pitch at least 100 pitches before they get tired. Of course I play all my games out or no doubt the AI wouldn't do this. So far, my staff is doing very well.

ya, that's why i like playing my games out completely. It lets you make all the management decisions and doesn't let the AI manager screw up anything you're trying to try out.

[dsvitak]

Originally Posted by Greatgrampa

I am finding that to be true as well. Personally, I always prefer middle relievers to starters and in fact never pick a starter. I use five MR's for my starters and most of them, although only rated at somewhere around sixty, can pitch at least 100 pitches before they get tired. Of course I play all my games out or no doubt the AI wouldn't do this. So far, my staff is doing very well.

This is an interesting idea.

I usually try to have two ace starters, with very high endurance ratings.

I will carry 1-2 MR's, converted to starters, but no more.

The only way I would consider more than 1-2 MR's as starters would be if it is after September 1st, with the bigger rosters, or carrying 12-13 pitchers ALL the time.

If you bullpen gets tired, you are in for nine different levels of hell.

If you have ALL your starters with marginal endurance, it will be EXTREMELY difficult to give your bullpen a couple of days off...and one very bad start will crush the life out of your bullpen.

[StyxNCa]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

I don't think Markus ever noted this here, but on the FOFC boards he said that he's tweaked the endurance ratings a little bit so that guys who are between I think 50 and 110 on the 200 point scale can still go out and give you about 100 pitches at a time. IME that's happening.

I think he mentioned it in this forum.