How long will the new Washington baseball team last?

ctorg · 09-30-2004, 08:44 AM

Okay, so the first Washington Senators left back in the 60s, to be immediately replaced by a second. The second one left in the 70s. It seems that Washington just isn't much of a baseball town. Has that changed? I guess we'll see. They certainly have the population base to support a team, but will they?

Chappy · 09-30-2004, 08:53 AM

Barring contraction, I don't see any more teams moving in the next 25 years. And if a team were to move, it would most likely be one of the Florida teams.

swampdragon · 09-30-2004, 08:58 AM

I don't think the stadium financing is actually in place yet. My guess is that if the Federal government won't pay for a stadium, they'll be gone to somewhere in Virginia within 10 years. Otherwise, they'll be there a while.

ctorg · 09-30-2004, 09:16 AM

Forgot to put my own opinion.

I'm giving Washington the benefit of the doubt. Maybe the third time's the charm. I'm thinking this incarnation will stick around for a bit.

Kezzek · 09-30-2004, 09:21 AM

10 years max. DC doesn't want to pay for a stadium, what with their city decaying around them.

This whole Expos to DC thing is mindboggling.

dougaiton · 09-30-2004, 09:22 AM

I might go 15, just because both Florida teams will have to go first. As Kez says, this completely beggars belief.

Rizon · 09-30-2004, 09:25 AM

Nobody will go cause its in DC and there is terra and terraists running around plus the government crashes planes into buildings like the Pentagon and its all GWs fault.

sporr · 09-30-2004, 11:06 AM

I still have my doubts about whether they will really go to DC in the first place.

Gastric ReFlux · 09-30-2004, 11:10 AM

I think it's time to put a club in Japan.

asamford · 09-30-2004, 11:14 AM

they'll last until 2007 when baseball will contract them and the Marlins.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 09-30-2004, 11:19 AM

I think the team will do just fine in Washington if they get a stable ownership group. Even if they don't they won't be in as much trouble as teams without the population base.

kingcharlesxii · 09-30-2004, 11:25 AM

If they actually move to Washington, I think they'll be there awhile. It's a reasonably big market and they'll have the new team effect for a few years. I think the Florida teams would be far more likely to move in the next 20 years.

treedom · 09-30-2004, 11:29 AM

They'll probably last until the MLB collapses - within the decade.

kq76 · 09-30-2004, 11:39 AM

I selected other, just because I don't want to add to a possible pygmalion effect. Good luck Washington fans.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 09-30-2004, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treedom

They'll probably last until the MLB collapses - within the decade.

Paging Mr. Little.... Mr. Chicken Little.

Dagrims · 09-30-2004, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kq76

I selected other, just because I don't want to add to a possible pygmalion effect. Good luck Washington fans.

Given the other poll answers, "other" isn't even a valid choice, yet three people chose it.

Figures that one of the "other"s would be an O Zone Factor fan.

ctorg · 09-30-2004, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagrims

Given the other poll answers, "other" isn't even a valid choice, yet three people chose it.

Figures that one of the "other"s would be an O Zone Factor fan.

I put "other" on there for the guys with the really complicated answers who like to claim that their preferred choice is not listed, which happens even in all-inclusive polls.

SpitFire Mac2 · 09-30-2004, 02:01 PM

I'm going to ahead and say 30+ because it has the population and the money.

wireman · 09-30-2004, 02:18 PM

Washington's a bad baseball town? It kept the same team for 60 years. But the Griffiths were the most parsimonious owners on Earth, and the team just couldn't stay competitive.

When you finish way out of the pennant race year after year, attendance will suffer.

As for the "fake" Senators, that was hardly a test.

This team will last forever.

OK, so I'm a Washington native.

treedom · 09-30-2004, 02:20 PM

I think my reply certainly fits into other - until the league folds.

View Poll Results: How long will the new Washington baseball team last?
Less than 5 years	3	8.57%
5-10 years	2	5.71%
10-20 years	8	22.86%
20-30 years	2	5.71%
Over 30 years	16	45.71%
Other - explain	4	11.43%
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09-30-2004, 08:44 AM	#1
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	How long will the new Washington baseball team last? Okay, so the first Washington Senators left back in the 60s, to be immediately replaced by a second. The second one left in the 70s. It seems that Washington just isn't much of a baseball town. Has that changed? I guess we'll see. They certainly have the population base to support a team, but will they? __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

09-30-2004, 08:53 AM	#2
Chappy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,721	Barring contraction, I don't see any more teams moving in the next 25 years. And if a team were to move, it would most likely be one of the Florida teams. __________________ NPBL - Pennsylvania Freedom AFBL - North Carolina Aviators MLB-Pro - Kansas City Royals

09-30-2004, 09:16 AM	#4
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	Forgot to put my own opinion. I'm giving Washington the benefit of the doubt. Maybe the third time's the charm. I'm thinking this incarnation will stick around for a bit. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

09-30-2004, 09:21 AM	#5
Kezzek All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Keyboard - frantically typing in subtle insults to raise my self-esteem Posts: 973	10 years max. DC doesn't want to pay for a stadium, what with their city decaying around them. This whole Expos to DC thing is mindboggling. __________________ - Kez, P.E.

09-30-2004, 08:58 AM	#3
swampdragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 2,506	I don't think the stadium financing is actually in place yet. My guess is that if the Federal government won't pay for a stadium, they'll be gone to somewhere in Virginia within 10 years. Otherwise, they'll be there a while.

09-30-2004, 09:22 AM	#6
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	I might go 15, just because both Florida teams will have to go first. As Kez says, this completely beggars belief. __________________ tThis shower of clowns My park-adjusted, historically split Born in '69 league file! (also at Joe's wonderful site +BBSC)

09-30-2004, 09:25 AM	#7
Rizon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691 Posts: 2,370	Nobody will go cause its in DC and there is terra and terraists running around plus the government crashes planes into buildings like the Pentagon and its all GWs fault. __________________ JML MILKSHAKES

09-30-2004, 11:06 AM	#8
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	I still have my doubts about whether they will really go to DC in the first place.

09-30-2004, 11:10 AM	#9
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	I think it's time to put a club in Japan.

09-30-2004, 11:14 AM	#10
asamford Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Snellville, Georgia Posts: 1,769	they'll last until 2007 when baseball will contract them and the Marlins.

09-30-2004, 11:19 AM	#11
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	I think the team will do just fine in Washington if they get a stable ownership group. Even if they don't they won't be in as much trouble as teams without the population base. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

09-30-2004, 11:25 AM	#12
kingcharlesxii Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,731	If they actually move to Washington, I think they'll be there awhile. It's a reasonably big market and they'll have the new team effect for a few years. I think the Florida teams would be far more likely to move in the next 20 years. __________________ Formerly in the OTBA - Stockholm Royal Squirrels of Sweden OOTP Grand League Champion 2015

09-30-2004, 11:29 AM	#13
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	They'll probably last until the MLB collapses - within the decade. __________________ A rake and a roustabout.

09-30-2004, 11:39 AM	#14
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 12,035	I selected other, just because I don't want to add to a possible pygmalion effect. Good luck Washington fans. __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project) For Beta/Devs: Full screen (1920x1080)

09-30-2004, 02:01 PM	#18
SpitFire Mac2 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: OOTP Union Representative Posts: 125	I'm going to ahead and say 30+ because it has the population and the money. __________________ Red Sox win!

09-30-2004, 02:18 PM	#19
wireman All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harrisonburg VA Posts: 765	Washington's a bad baseball town? It kept the same team for 60 years. But the Griffiths were the most parsimonious owners on Earth, and the team just couldn't stay competitive. When you finish way out of the pennant race year after year, attendance will suffer. As for the "fake" Senators, that was hardly a test. This team will last forever. OK, so I'm a Washington native. __________________ "Sometimes the magic works and sometimes it doesn't."

09-30-2004, 02:20 PM	#20
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	I think my reply certainly fits into other - until the league folds. __________________ A rake and a roustabout.