Evander Holifield

IceTea · 11-11-2006, 01:55 AM

He won tonight! Just another name in the mix. Kevin Johnson also won tonight. I wish he was would fight more often.

MJ

Romdawg88 · 11-11-2006, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by IceTea

He won tonight! Just another name in the mix. Kevin Johnson also won tonight. I wish he was would fight more often.

MJ

Wow, Evander beat Fres thats a nice win for the old man, I mean Fres isn't by any means a great fighter but he isn't bad and he's eons beyond that walking punching bag that Evander beat in his last fight. How did Evander look in the fight?

IceTea · 11-11-2006, 02:29 AM

I didn't know it was on PPV or I would have through down the cash to watch it. I have read alot of online opinions and most think that Fres won a close one. Evander did knock Fres down in the first round and won by the scores of: 116-111, 114-113, 114-113.....so the KD was the difference.

Romdawg88 · 11-11-2006, 02:39 AM

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I didn't know it was on PPV or I would have through down the cash to watch it. I didn't watch it, I wishing that someone else did.

Ah, crap yeah I even realize that Evander was fighting today at all. Hopefully, someone saw and let us know how Evander looked.

TC Dale · 11-11-2006, 02:44 AM

So did anyone get a good look at him? Just wondered.

Zima · 11-11-2006, 02:50 AM

Pensioner WON tonight!!!!!!

maxx · 11-11-2006, 03:23 AM

I saw it ... although I'm glad I didn't actually pay money for it. It was slow paced and dull. Fres didn't push the pace at all & test Evander's stamina.

Even though Fres didn't do much & got put down early, I still thought he won by 1 or 2 points because Evander did even less (which should not have been possible given how poorly Fres fought).

Giving it to Holyfield by a point, though , was by no means a robbery. There were a lot of rounds where not much of significance happened. However, the 116-111 judge was out to lunch.

Didn't change my opinion at all that Holyfield should not be getting punched in the head anymore.

IceTea · 11-11-2006, 04:06 AM

From what I'm reading, he is looking to fight Maskeav....though I think he stands a shot at Briggs. Oleg has a decent work rate and might wear Evander down.

MJ

bear · 11-11-2006, 08:57 AM

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I saw it ... although I'm glad I didn't actually pay money for it. It was slow paced and dull. Fres didn't push the pace at all & test Evander's stamina.

Even though Fres didn't do much & got put down early, I still thought he won by 1 or 2 points because Evander did even less (which should not have been possible given how poorly Fres fought).

Giving it to Holyfield by a point, though , was by no means a robbery. There were a lot of rounds where not much of significance happened. However, the 116-111 judge was out to lunch.

Didn't change my opinion at all that Holyfield should not be getting punched in the head anymore.

Maxx
Slow paced and dull. Sadly that pretty much describes heavyweight action of late.

Bear

Cap · 11-11-2006, 10:06 AM

Don't think we'll be seeing any Dempseys, Marcianos or Fraziers any time soon. They all want to look like pro-wrasslers and I don't know if this is their own idea or something instilled in them by modern trainers, many of whom know squat about boxing. "Bigger is Better" is their motto. Must all be from Texas or Alberta. Then again, maybe these big bulky guys are all thats walking into gyms these days. Too bad Chris Byrd didn't have a real punch to go with his speed. Well, they always say a puncher is born, not made.

Cap

Lee · 11-11-2006, 10:48 AM

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Maxx
Slow paced and dull. Sadly that pretty much describes heavyweight action of late.

Bear

Ditto that, I agree with Cap as well....It seems like the rage is to get as big and bulky as possible and try an out maul your opponents....The "glamour" division has been anything but for quite sometime. Do you guys see anyone out there that could inject some excitement into the HW ranks?

mh2365 · 11-11-2006, 11:07 AM

Reaaly liked that Chris Arreola the other night

Lee · 11-11-2006, 12:55 PM

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Reaaly liked that Chris Arreola the other night

I agree, he could have a future...

Mr Big · 11-13-2006, 01:39 AM

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Ditto that, I agree with Cap as well....It seems like the rage is to get as big and bulky as possible and try an out maul your opponents....The "glamour" division has been anything but for quite sometime. Do you guys see anyone out there that could inject some excitement into the HW ranks?

I think that heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko is doing a fine job generating excitement in the heavyweight division. In his last three fights, he has scored an exciting win over top contender and undefeated Samuel Peter, knocked out then champion Chris Byrd and undefeated Calvin Brock in devestating fashion, and established himself as one of the most dominating offensive forces in boxing today. If you want fireworks, look no further.

lethal liberal · 11-13-2006, 03:14 PM

Kevin has a great jab..but the last time that I watched him fight that is about all he landed the entire fight...his jab. I like him though. He has some nice skills to work with. Did you get to see his fight the other night? If so,how did he look?

bear · 11-13-2006, 07:48 PM

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Ditto that, I agree with Cap as well....It seems like the rage is to get as big and bulky as possible and try an out maul your opponents....The "glamour" division has been anything but for quite sometime. Do you guys see anyone out there that could inject some excitement into the HW ranks?

Seems like heavyweight boxing has gone full circle back to the early prize ring era when brute strength was the standard. Crude, skill-less mauling was the rule of thumb.

Bear

Mr Big · 11-14-2006, 01:12 AM

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Seems like heavyweight boxing has gone full circle back to the early prize ring era when brute strength was the standard. Crude, skill-less mauling was the rule of thumb.

Bear

Wladimir Klitschko's textbook jabs and right hands are far superior to the "skill-less mauling" of which you speak. The guy can box, and his skills resemble James J. Corbett's more than John L. Sullivan's IMO.

IceTea · 11-14-2006, 02:11 AM

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I agree, he could have a future...

I agree, as long as he keeps his weight down.

MJ

IceTea · 11-14-2006, 02:13 AM

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Kevin has a great jab..but the last time that I watched him fight that is about all he landed the entire fight...his jab. I like him though. He has some nice skills to work with. Did you get to see his fight the other night? If so,how did he look?

Kevin Johnson they compair to Larry Holmes...I haven't seen him fight but he has some interesting names on his record. He did manage a draw with that dog Timur Imbragimov........

IceTea · 11-14-2006, 02:19 AM

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Wladimir Klitschko's textbook jabs and right hands are far superior to the "skill-less mauling" of which you speak. The guy can box, and his skills resemble James J. Corbett's more than John L. Sullivan's IMO.

Negative, Wlad is about a smooth as a mountain range. His footwork is crap, pushes off on the wrong foot going to his right, hand placement is all wrong when moving to his right and when they are up which isn't often, and his mouth was open after round three. He won't be a champion by this time next year.....I hope.

He aint no Jim Corbett.....historically, he is on about the same level as Leotis Martin.

MJ

11-11-2006, 01:55 AM	#1
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,847	Evander Holifield He won tonight! Just another name in the mix. Kevin Johnson also won tonight. I wish he was would fight more often. MJ __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/

11-11-2006, 02:29 AM	#3
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,847	I didn't know it was on PPV or I would have through down the cash to watch it. I have read alot of online opinions and most think that Fres won a close one. Evander did knock Fres down in the first round and won by the scores of: 116-111, 114-113, 114-113.....so the KD was the difference. __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/ Last edited by IceTea; 11-11-2006 at 02:39 AM.

11-11-2006, 02:44 AM	#5
TC Dale Global Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,979	So did anyone get a good look at him? Just wondered. __________________ ----------------------------------

11-11-2006, 02:50 AM	#6
Zima Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Moscow,Russia Posts: 154	Pensioner WON tonight!!!!!! Last edited by Zima; 11-11-2006 at 07:18 AM.

11-11-2006, 04:06 AM	#8
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,847	From what I'm reading, he is looking to fight Maskeav....though I think he stands a shot at Briggs. Oleg has a decent work rate and might wear Evander down. MJ __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/

11-11-2006, 03:23 AM	#7
maxx All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 716	I saw it ... although I'm glad I didn't actually pay money for it. It was slow paced and dull. Fres didn't push the pace at all & test Evander's stamina. Even though Fres didn't do much & got put down early, I still thought he won by 1 or 2 points because Evander did even less (which should not have been possible given how poorly Fres fought). Giving it to Holyfield by a point, though , was by no means a robbery. There were a lot of rounds where not much of significance happened. However, the 116-111 judge was out to lunch. Didn't change my opinion at all that Holyfield should not be getting punched in the head anymore.

11-11-2006, 10:06 AM	#10
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 8,039	Don't think we'll be seeing any Dempseys, Marcianos or Fraziers any time soon. They all want to look like pro-wrasslers and I don't know if this is their own idea or something instilled in them by modern trainers, many of whom know squat about boxing. "Bigger is Better" is their motto. Must all be from Texas or Alberta. Then again, maybe these big bulky guys are all thats walking into gyms these days. Too bad Chris Byrd didn't have a real punch to go with his speed. Well, they always say a puncher is born, not made. Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

11-11-2006, 11:07 AM	#12
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Reaaly liked that Chris Arreola the other night

11-13-2006, 03:14 PM	#15
lethal liberal All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Logan,WV Posts: 1,145	Kevin has a great jab..but the last time that I watched him fight that is about all he landed the entire fight...his jab. I like him though. He has some nice skills to work with. Did you get to see his fight the other night? If so,how did he look?