Ray Emery makes history in style

canadiancreed · 11-30-2005, 04:55 AM

OTTAWA (AP) -- Ray Emery was unaware he had a shot at NHL history until just a few moments before he achieved it.

Emery won his record ninth straight game to start his career, stopping 27 shots to lead the Ottawa Senators to a 4-0 victory over the Montreal Canadiens on Tuesday night.

"Starting out, you just want to make a good impression and play your best," said Emery, who made 27 saves for his first career shutout.

He improved to 9-0 in 12 career games and moved ahead of Bob Froese, who went 8-0 to begin his career with Philadelphia in 1982-83. Emery beat Montreal for the third time this season to improve to 6-0 in six starts -- three of his wins came during the previous two seasons.

"It just kind of worked out that over the course of the past three years, I played a couple of games here and there and I had a great team in front of me all the time so I reeled off nine kind of without recognizing it until the end of it," Emery said.

Looking good for our goaltending when Hasek retires

Cooleyvol · 11-30-2005, 11:14 AM

I actually went to high school with Emery.

darkhorse · 11-30-2005, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by canadiancreed

He improved to 9-0 in 12 career games and moved ahead of Bob Froese, who went 8-0 to begin his career with Philadelphia in 1982-83.

So, how did this Froese fella turn out?

JWay · 11-30-2005, 01:58 PM

is that impressive or something?

kq76 · 11-30-2005, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

I actually went to high school with Emery.

Unless you're a lot younger than I thought and grew up in Canada, I doubt it was that Emery.

I have to wonder, how much of his great streak is due to playing on a great team and how much of it is because he is a damn fine young goalie?

boilermaker · 11-30-2005, 09:23 PM

Somehow I remember Patrick Lalime having some extraordinary streak when he started off with the Pens.

But I don't remember exactly what made the streak extraordinary. Or what the streak even was.

There's been plenty of alcohol between now and then, so you'll forgive me for not recalling those sort of details.

canadiancreed · 12-01-2005, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kq76

Unless you're a lot younger than I thought and grew up in Canada, I doubt it was that Emery.

I have to wonder, how much of his great streak is due to playing on a great team and how much of it is because he is a damn fine young goalie?

I'd chalk it up to 75% good team, 25% talent. Although he has spread out the streak over three years behind some good goalies such as Lalime and Hasek

canadiancreed · 12-01-2005, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

So, how did this Froese fella turn out?

isn't he the one that died in 1984 or something? My hockey knowledge is sdly rusty before the late 80's

Kekkonen · 12-01-2005, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by boilermaker

Somehow I remember Patrick Lalime having some extraordinary streak when he started off with the Pens.

But I don't remember exactly what made the streak extraordinary. Or what the streak even was.

There's been plenty of alcohol between now and then, so you'll forgive me for not recalling those sort of details.

I wonder if it isn't Johan Hedberg you're thinking of. He was something like #4 or #5 in the Sharks' depth chart behind at least Nabokov, Toskala, and Kiprusoff when he was traded to the Pens where he made a pretty good impression of a legit #1 NHL goalie for a while. He's more like a back-up caliber guy, though.

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isn't he the one that died in 1984 or something?

I have no knowledge of this Froese guy, but the Philly goalie who died in a car crash at about that time (1985) was another Swede, Pelle Lindbergh.

Kekkonen · 12-01-2005, 05:42 AM

The Internet Hockey Database (hockeydb.com) tells me that Froese started more than 50 NHL games only once in his career, and that was in 1985-6, the season their #1 guy Lindbergh died. The next season he was traded to the Rangers, where he had back-up level playing time (30 starts a season or less) until his retirement in 1990.

Not a very illustrious NHL career overall, but he was still probably among the 50 best goalies in the World at his prime. It's just that he wasn't in the top 30.

jamus23 · 12-01-2005, 09:29 AM

I believe Lalime started his career with something like a 17 game unbeaten streak. That was in 96-97 with the Pens.

Cooleyvol · 12-01-2005, 03:08 PM

Oh, that's right......it was Lalime that was a year behind me in high school.

Thanks, kq.

boilermaker · 12-01-2005, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jamus23

I believe Lalime started his career with something like a 17 game unbeaten streak. That was in 96-97 with the Pens.

Yeah, I knew it was something obscene like that, but I had always wondered if I had just imagined it because no one ever talks about it. I thought it was an impressive feat for a 3rd stringer at the time.

I think Wregget and Barasso were the top two and they started the season hurt, so Lalime was thrown to the wolves and did pretty well for himself.

darkhorse · 12-02-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

So, how did this Froese fella turn out?

Ran across this. Looking at his career record, I was curious as to why his NHL career is so light? Only 240 games. I'm sure Ottawa will be hoping for a more illustrious career for Emery.

http://hockeygoalies.org/bio/froese.html

Long_Long_Name · 12-02-2005, 01:46 AM

So, what's the difference between Lalime and the other two? He won his first 17 decisions, and not 17 first games?

canadiancreed · 12-02-2005, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

So, what's the difference between Lalime and the other two? He won his first 17 decisions, and not 17 first games?

I think he had a tie somewhere in that mix

Kekkonen · 12-02-2005, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

Ran across this. Looking at his career record, I was curious as to why his NHL career is so light? Only 240 games.

Probably because it's really, really tough to make it as an NHL goalie. If you're the second-best center in your team, you'll probably get power play time, play 15+ minutes every night and have a long career. If you get hurt before the play-offs, fans worry; when you retire, they will remember your name. If you're a goalie and there's one guy on your team who does the job better than you, you're either a marginal player or trade bait.

jamus23 · 12-02-2005, 10:14 AM

Actually, I stand corrected. It was 16 games.

From Lalime's NHL.com profile http://www.nhl.com/lineups/player/8459579.html

Made his NHL debut in 1996-97 with the Pittsburgh Penguins and enjoyed immediate success. Broke the NHL record for the longest unbeaten streak by a rookie goalie, going 14-0-2.

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canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,660	Ray Emery makes history in style OTTAWA (AP) -- Ray Emery was unaware he had a shot at NHL history until just a few moments before he achieved it. Emery won his record ninth straight game to start his career, stopping 27 shots to lead the Ottawa Senators to a 4-0 victory over the Montreal Canadiens on Tuesday night. "Starting out, you just want to make a good impression and play your best," said Emery, who made 27 saves for his first career shutout. He improved to 9-0 in 12 career games and moved ahead of Bob Froese, who went 8-0 to begin his career with Philadelphia in 1982-83. Emery beat Montreal for the third time this season to improve to 6-0 in six starts -- three of his wins came during the previous two seasons. "It just kind of worked out that over the course of the past three years, I played a couple of games here and there and I had a great team in front of me all the time so I reeled off nine kind of without recognizing it until the end of it," Emery said. Looking good for our goaltending when Hasek retires Last edited by canadiancreed; 11-30-2005 at 04:58 AM.

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Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	I actually went to high school with Emery.

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JWay Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,031	is that impressive or something?

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boilermaker All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,956	Somehow I remember Patrick Lalime having some extraordinary streak when he started off with the Pens. But I don't remember exactly what made the streak extraordinary. Or what the streak even was. There's been plenty of alcohol between now and then, so you'll forgive me for not recalling those sort of details.

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Kekkonen All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting the 'in' in Finland Posts: 739	The Internet Hockey Database (hockeydb.com) tells me that Froese started more than 50 NHL games only once in his career, and that was in 1985-6, the season their #1 guy Lindbergh died. The next season he was traded to the Rangers, where he had back-up level playing time (30 starts a season or less) until his retirement in 1990. Not a very illustrious NHL career overall, but he was still probably among the 50 best goalies in the World at his prime. It's just that he wasn't in the top 30.

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jamus23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 896	I believe Lalime started his career with something like a 17 game unbeaten streak. That was in 96-97 with the Pens.

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Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	Oh, that's right......it was Lalime that was a year behind me in high school. Thanks, kq.

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jamus23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 896	Actually, I stand corrected. It was 16 games. From Lalime's NHL.com profile http://www.nhl.com/lineups/player/8459579.html Made his NHL debut in 1996-97 with the Pittsburgh Penguins and enjoyed immediate success. Broke the NHL record for the longest unbeaten streak by a rookie goalie, going 14-0-2.