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Old 05-24-2004, 06:09 AM   #9
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While that is a bit more informative, it still doesn't tell us much about the variation. It just tells us that 121 pitches is a high count for Braves pitchers, which might be more attributable to their success than being under pitch counts. Is there somewhere that lists pitch counts by game?

By looking at the averages we can see that at least Mazzone does not have every pitcher at the same pitch count. Variation data could tell us if he has each pitcher at their own count though.

What's really the point though? If Mazzone says he does not have his pitchers under pitch counts, I believe him. Could each pitcher really have his own endurance limit though? If Mazzone is telling the truth but it still looks like each pitcher usually gets pulled at about the same time for himself (low variation), then that might be a good argument for at least individual pitch counts. I'd still go by each game though, I'd just use pitch counts as a trigger to tell me to start paying more attention to how the pitcher is doing.

EDIT: I did not see your 2nd post, reading it now... Well, like I said, if there truly is low variation by Braves pitchers, then maybe there's some value in this. I'm certainly not advocating that managers follow Baker's lead, just that I'd trust Mazzone more than I would someone telling me to pull so and so immediately even if he appears to be pitching just fine.

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