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Old 10-22-2024, 10:35 AM   #3
Syd Thrift
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After several seasons I hadn't really noticed any real difference before and after successfully completing training. I've recently started taking screenshots of the player's stats just before the end of training, and again the next day after training concludes.

I'm confirming that the lack of improvement (and, in some cases, regression) is very real.

I finally had a lucky stretch where 3 players were successful in their training at the same time. Here are the results:

SS prospect working on "Contact":
BABIP **REGRESSED** from 35/70 to 35/65
Avoid K **REGRESSED** from 30/55 to 30/50
Overall "Contact" remained the same at 35/65

SP improving "Secondary Pitch" (slider):
**NO CHANGE**. The pitch remained at 45/55

SP Improving "Control":
"Control" **REGRESSED** from 35/80 to 35/75


So, I wasted time in-game setting up something that seems like a really neat feature, but after waiting an entire offseason, my players actually got worse. Can someone clarify what's going on with this? Is it a known bug that the developers are working on? Or is it just perpetually broken and I should just ignore this aspect of the game going forward?
There are soooooo many factors at play here. The first thing I'd want to know is, how old are these players? The big gap between potential and current ratings implies that they're younger but that's not always the case. But beyond all this, it's entirely possible to have a successful offseason but then have other factors - TCR being the biggest one - cause things to go sideways in other ways. Even a younger player you might expect to just get better on his own might have a bad, random hit to his control or whatever that wound up being counterbalanced by the development lab and he just didn't develop much on his own this offseason for any number of reasons (one of which being that the particular "path" he's on calls for later-than-expected development bumps - yes, this is a thing the game does behind the scenes a bit).

Also, it needs to be pointed out that the dev lab is just plain not going to turn a guy with 35 control into a 75 control pitcher overnight, no matter what his potential ratings might be. If it did that, *that* would be the sign of a broken game because, like, if getting a player to fulfill his potentials was as easy as dropping him into a successful development lab or two, why don't players cash in on their potentials all the time? The nature of baseball is that it's hard to predict guys, especially very young players, actually turning into 100% of what they were "supposed" to become. Baseball is very, very much not basketball or football and also I think with both of those sports players get into the league/organization much, much closer to "major league" ready than in baseball as well. The draft is a crapshoot, there are lots and lots of busts and unrealized gems in every single draft, and nobody has it figured out.
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