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Old 04-12-2023, 03:26 PM   #18
thehef
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There is extensive and fascinating discussion (I believe Brad has already beaten me in noting some of it) in this thread: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=331438

A highlight, as it pertains to - figuratively - "capping" HR totals:

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger View Post
First, for historical outlier seasons like Maris' 61 HR season, the game is not rating Maris as if his 'true' talent for that season is to hit 61 HR's.
Re Lukas mentioning "historical outlier" it should be noted that he confirmed that Maris' 61 HR's is treated by OOTP as a historical outlier even if you are playing with ideal replay settings (1-year recalc, real lineups, etc.), in which - by definition - "historical outlier" should be an invalid concept.

I haven't tested this out since v22 (perhaps others have), but back then it was pretty clear that the big single-season HR numbers that you might expect from guys like the Bambino, Hack, Greenberg, Foxx, Kiner, Maris routinely fall short. Maris, for examples, a) will rarely hit in the range of 61 HR's, b) will very rarely exceed 61 HR's, even by a little bit, and c) will frequently come up quite short, like hit in 40's. This is not true, for example, of guys with outlier-high batting avg seasons (Cobb, Hornsby, T Williams, Carew, Brett).

My personal opinion is that if you are playing with replay settings then OOTP shouldn't care that Maris' 61 was an outlier. 1961 Maris should in OOTP be just as likely to hit a few more than 61 dingers as he is to hit a few less. Again, assuming ideal replay settings. OOTP disagrees. Their contention is that if Maris was hitting 71 in '61 as often as he was hitting 41, the complaints would be overwhelming. Perhaps they are right. I don't know... I've generally just accepted this and moved on from it, but still thought the above might be of value to the convo.

I definitely invite anyone with an interest to the check out the thread mentioned above. Lots of good info in there from Lukas and others
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