[Syd Thrift]

Who are these new users? If they're people coming in from The Show, the 3D is never going to look as good as a AAA title, period. If they're coming in from FM, they might be a little turned off by what it looks now but at that if they've patronized FM for long enough they'll remember how clunky FM's first few iterations of 3D looked (not to mention the little circles with "feet" of the early 2D engine). If they're older players who played Microleague or Earl Weaver back in the day and they want something that works a bit like that, they'll be very, very satisfied (the game's graphics pretty much *are* Microleague, only about a thousand times better, and of course the engine underneath is far deeper as well). If they're pure stat people they might not care one way or the other (or, hell, they might; I personally didn't care about 3D until suddenly I did).

I don't think anyone is saying "nobody's allowed" to have gripes. It's that when the griping is unfounded ("they're spending all these resources on PT when they could be using them to update the AI or glitches in the 3D graphics!!!") or, frankly, useless ("3D broken pls fix"), you get pushback. Everyone, fanboys included, is allowed to have their own opinion on stuff. Everyone, fanboys included, should not expect that their opinion be held above reproach just because it belongs to them.