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Originally Posted by One Post Wonder
If I did that then I wouldn't get to use managers, and while I think managers need work too I am happy with the way they are currently implemented and think they add a lot to the game. If I could just turn off coaches I would do so in a hot minute.
I'm pretty sure that Tony Larussa would know if his pitching coach was a turd or not. From our perspective though, it is impossible because we don't have enough information. If something isn't working out we don't know if the problem is the player, or the coaching, or plain bad luck.
Dusty Baker stuck around so long because he was able to maintain great relationships with his players, which is something we can also see in OOTP. You and I think he is an idiot because of moves that we saw him make, which is also viewable in OOTP. He's someone with high player relationship scores and terrible strategy settings.
Now if coaches started out blind and then you got an idea of how good they were after a year or two of experience, I'd be great with that. Even more great if abilities changed over time.
JPeters, I've been complaining about this ever since the ability to view development influence was taken away from us, 6 or 7 years ago. I think this is ridiculous given how important player development is and honestly, coaches have come to bother me enough that it will be the sole influencer on whether I buy 22 or not.
It's vexing because we all know the information is right there. It's been there all along. All OOTP needs to do is add it to the list of viewable information in the charts.
It's also vexing because everyone in the game currently knows this information except the player. Coaches themselves know how good they are because I believe their demands are based on experience, reputation, AND skill. And I'm pretty sure actual skill is looked at when AI teams are hiring staff.
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That’s a weird guy to bring up because LaRussa basically found one good pitching coach early in his career - Dave Duncan - and stuck with him basically the whole way, including to different organizations. And Duncan was a guy with a big, wait for it, reputation when LaRussa lured him in thanks to turning around the pitching staffs of both the Cleveland Indians and Seattle Mariners. In any case, Hawk Harrelson certainly didn’t see the “obvious talent” of either LaRussa or Duncan when he fired them both midway through the 1986 season.