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Originally Posted by Zeyes

I'm not sure what you mean here. The increase in rating doesn't imply anything (certainly not an improved performance). It works exactly likes stars did in OOTP6 as far as I can tell, i.e. the rating is calculated by comparing the player to the positional average. The average reliever has worse ratings than the average starter, so the same pitcher will come out looking better as a reliever. That's all.

The problem as I see it is that it totally throws you off. They're the same person regardless of their assigned role, but if you see a player as a 50 as a starter, you think, "oh, he's not that good", but as a 70 or whatever as a reliever, you think, "geez, he must be pretty good". You're right, it's like the stars were with starters/relievers and that was crap. I say it's about time it get corrected. It's not the big problem we're seeing here, but it's still something I think should be changed. We can still tell ourselves, "oh, we can't compare pitchers with different roles", but I think we should be able to compare them.

Originally Posted by Zeyes

That permeates the whole game though. Take a look at how the GB% affects the estimated pitcher ERA in the editor...high GB% = large ERA, low GB% = small ERA. So the OVR rating at least follows along with everything else in the game, even if the underlying model might be questionable.

I see what you mean regarding ERA and that's scary! Isn't a lower GB% supposed to allow for a lot more home runs? Now sure, you could have a horrible infield defense which might make you not salivate over GB pitchers, but in general I'm pretty sure GB pitchers are favoured over flyball / home run serving up pitchers. Another thing is GB% seems to have no affect on HRAllowed when it most certainly should have an affect.

EDIT: Other factors like if you have a large outfield or low altitude will make flyball pitchers less of a factor, but it's still difficult to imagine favouring a flyball pitcher over a groundball one all else equal.

Originally Posted by Zeyes

I think this is automatically built into the calculation because it's based on the positional average. If League A has a lot more homers than League B, it stands to reason that the average League A pitcher has a lower Movement rating than the average League B pitcher, so a pitcher with good Movement should automatically be rated better in League A than in League B.

Of course, this assumes that the positional averages are calculated separately for each skill. If the game calculates an overall number for each pitcher, and then normalizes it to the league average, it won't work as I described it.

I'm pretty certain that is not how it works. You could import the same player with the same ratings from lg A to lg B with highly different settings and his ratings will stay the same, but his performance will be very different depending on the league settings. I don't believe league settings determine ratings, I'm pretty sure they only determine stats.