The 10-5 rule

ctorg · 07-29-2004, 11:24 AM

I'd love to see this rule in OOTP. A player with 10 years of service in the big leagues and 5 years with one team must approve any trade before it goes through. I love the additional challenges that the waiver rules have brought to the game, and I think this one would bring more.

Anyone else with me? Are there other rules you'd particularly like to see make it into the game?

streetballer67 · 07-29-2004, 11:41 AM

That would be a good addition but what would factor into a player approving a trade?

Cooker · 07-29-2004, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by streetballer67

That would be a good addition but what would factor into a player approving a trade?

I think it'd be a great addition. Perhaps the player's approval could key off of his desire to play for a winner. If he's so wired, then he'd disapprove any trade to a team under .500 or not in first or second place in its division. If he doesn't care about playing for a winner, then the player's approval would ordinarily be granted (with some randomness factor added to mimic real life). See, e.g., Steve Finley's demand that he'll only waive his "no-trade" if a west coast team is involved.

jmm8356 · 07-29-2004, 12:31 PM

I think you'd also want to factor in his "team loyalty" as a "I like this community" interest, so players with high loyalty would be less likely to approve a deal.

ctorg · 07-29-2004, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jmm8356

I think you'd also want to factor in his "team loyalty" as a "I like this community" interest, so players with high loyalty would be less likely to approve a deal.

Yeah, that would be an interesting consideration. The guy's loyal, but you can't get rid of him!

I think it would end up having to work out similarly to how players decide they don't want to sign with particular teams in free agency, which seems pretty random with a favoritism towards winning teams. Ideally, players would have hidden (or maybe not hidden) traits, perhaps randomly generated, that would determine their preferences.

Deft · 07-29-2004, 03:23 PM

Along these lines, no trade clauses, incentive bonuses, and signing bonuses for free agency would be interesting.

Dan Theman · 07-29-2004, 03:37 PM

The 10-5 rule would be a nice addition - it's also a fairly common suggestion from what I've seen. Here's hoping

Bohunk · 07-31-2004, 01:40 PM

Is there a way to find out who is a 10-5 player?

mlyons · 07-31-2004, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bohunk

Is there a way to find out who is a 10-5 player?

It should be pretty simple. 10 years of major league service time (you should be able to find that in the financial/roster status window in the player card) and 5 seasons of consecutive service with his current team (look in career stats to see who he played for each season).

Bohunk · 07-31-2004, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyons

It should be pretty simple. 10 years of major league service time (you should be able to find that in the financial/roster status window in the player card) and 5 seasons of consecutive service with his current team (look in career stats to see who he played for each season).

For 800+ players? I was trying to figure it out on the export to excel; I was hoping it might be as easy as an IF statement. Doesn't look like it though.

mlyons · 07-31-2004, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bohunk

For 800+ players? I was trying to figure it out on the export to excel; I was hoping it might be as easy as an IF statement. Doesn't look like it though.

Sorry, I didn't realize you were looking for a global function. Can't help you out there.

Bohunk · 07-31-2004, 02:08 PM

In the export there is a column called "days of service". could this be service for present team?

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