1 star players

gbdmets · 11-22-2003, 01:49 PM

anyone ever have a 1 Star player who just awesome?
I had a Pitcher 4 years in the majors
Year 1: 9-14 5.45
Year 2: 15-7 3.29 All- Star
Year 3: 14-10 2.99
Year 4: 18-6 2.34 All-Star, Pitcher of the year
Yet he stays at a 1 star player and just resigned for 600,000.

GeoWar · 11-22-2003, 01:53 PM

600,000 for one year ???

sounds like a free agent in year 6....

chrisj · 11-22-2003, 02:06 PM

Never had a 1 star player like that... but I've had 1 star players who have played surprisingly well (for example, being able to be one of my top 3 starters on a championship team).

rcbuss · 11-22-2003, 04:05 PM

I had a 1-star player in our league (IOSBL) with the following line:

14-6 189ip 183h 45bb 132k 3.48
15-10 216ip 187h 47bb 174k 3.38
12-8 183ip 162h 57bb 131k 2.85

He was 32 midway through the last of his 2 years with me, when I traded him to the other league (8-4, 2.42 at that time).

jmaness84 · 11-22-2003, 04:16 PM

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Yet he stays at a 1 star player and just resigned for 600,000.

Should have signed him for longer than that lol... What are his ratings?

Ragnar · 11-22-2003, 05:01 PM

I had a 2 and a half star pitcher that will be in the hall of fame but no lower than that. The stars can be deceptive. This pitcher had low ratings at ERA and hits allowed but everything else were 8's and above. He hardly ever gave up an extra base hit or walked anyone. To me those are the best pitchers. Alot of the higher star pitchers have low extra base hit ratings. That can hurt you.

jmaness84 · 11-22-2003, 05:34 PM

Yea or they can have low BB & HR ratings. Those are 2 very important ratings when i judge how good a pitcher is

SpaceNinja · 11-22-2003, 05:44 PM

I've found that one-star pitchers can frequently be excellent. In the MBBA, my rotation last year featured three one star starters. One went 23-7 with a 2.90 ERA, and another 19-8 and 3.79. The third melted down, but batting .666 ain't too shabby. And the one that wasn't any good was coming off three consecutive years in which his highest ERA was 3.11.

My point being that stars aren't particularly relevatory for pitchers. You have to look at statistics and peripheral ratings, rather than just assume that the more pretty gold stars, the better.

Ragin Cajun · 11-22-2003, 06:22 PM

On the other hand, I've seen players with 3 or 3 1/2 stars that are horrible in my opinion. Poor or Fair ratings for average but Good or Brilliant for HR and avoid K's. The game still boosts for that HR power. But a .200 hitter isn't worth it.

PBRmeASAP · 11-23-2003, 02:58 PM

I see alot of one star pitchers witl a low "stuff" rating but brilliant control and movement. They typically sign cheap and are my ace

Specs · 11-23-2003, 03:34 PM

http://www.cdl.ootp-leagues.com/files/p1219.html

UKSubs · 11-23-2003, 03:53 PM

Tewskbury!

dangarion · 11-23-2003, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by Specs
http://www.cdl.ootp-leagues.com/files/p1219.html

He's walked to many to be the "real" Bob Twesbury!

sporr · 11-24-2003, 11:45 AM

If 1-star players are used properly, they can make a big difference for a team. There seem to be players who do very well in a backup/utility role, but if they get the start too often, they go right down the tubes.

Karen Lutz · 11-24-2003, 11:56 AM

1 star utility men.. such a great thing! What would we do without them?

reitman1 · 11-24-2003, 05:44 PM

Here's my favorite one star player. I was looking at the box score for the All-Star game one year and saw this guy had made the all star game but was only ranked one-star. On top of that, he was batting over .400. I thought it was a bug or something, but then saw he had a 10 in hits against lefties but a 0 against righties. Its the biggest split I've ever seen in the game. So I ended up trading for him and now I only use him against left handed pitching. If he lasts long enough, its possible that he could get on the career leader board for hits with the lowest amount of at bats in my league.

http://www.users.muohio.edu/reiternt/p2942.html

joncarlos · 12-03-2003, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by reitman1
Here's my favorite one star player. I was looking at the box score for the All-Star game one year and saw this guy had made the all star game but was only ranked one-star. On top of that, he was batting over .400. I thought it was a bug or something, but then saw he had a 10 in hits against lefties but a 0 against righties. Its the biggest split I've ever seen in the game. So I ended up trading for him and now I only use him against left handed pitching. If he lasts long enough, its possible that he could get on the career leader board for hits with the lowest amount of at bats in my league.

http://www.users.muohio.edu/reiternt/p2942.html

That is a REALLY cool player!!! I have a guy with a '9' against lefties (Jack Wilson) but he's got a 3 against righties so his overall is a respectable 5. He hit .350 last season overall, but this season he's struggling and only hitting about .280 and about .330 vs lefties.

dougk62 · 12-04-2003, 02:51 AM

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Originally posted by reitman1
Here's my favorite one star player. I was looking at the box score for the All-Star game one year and saw this guy had made the all star game but was only ranked one-star. On top of that, he was batting over .400. I thought it was a bug or something, but then saw he had a 10 in hits against lefties but a 0 against righties. Its the biggest split I've ever seen in the game. So I ended up trading for him and now I only use him against left handed pitching. If he lasts long enough, its possible that he could get on the career leader board for hits with the lowest amount of at bats in my league.

http://www.users.muohio.edu/reiternt/p2942.html

Actually, it looks like a typo in someones real life roster set. I seriously doubt he progressed from a poor talent rating to a 10/0 vs L/R through the game engine. At least I would certainly hope that this is not possible.

reitman1 · 12-04-2003, 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by dougk62
Actually, it looks like a typo in someones real life roster set. I seriously doubt he progressed from a poor talent rating to a 10/0 vs L/R through the game engine. At least I would certainly hope that this is not possible.

I ended up using GeForce's roster set that was released soon after OOTP5 came out so only he would know if it is a typo. Does anyone know if it is possible for a player to develop like this?

Kelric · 12-04-2003, 07:23 AM

I don't remember Luis G. The Catcher having those ratings in my download of the roster, so I assume he just randomly developed like that.

But I've been wrong before once or twice, so who knows.

11-22-2003, 01:49 PM	#1
gbdmets Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bayville,New Jersey Posts: 98	1 star players anyone ever have a 1 Star player who just awesome? I had a Pitcher 4 years in the majors Year 1: 9-14 5.45 Year 2: 15-7 3.29 All- Star Year 3: 14-10 2.99 Year 4: 18-6 2.34 All-Star, Pitcher of the year Yet he stays at a 1 star player and just resigned for 600,000.

11-22-2003, 01:53 PM	#2
GeoWar All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 850	600,000 for one year ??? sounds like a free agent in year 6.... __________________ Cal. State Fullerton -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2004 Texas Longhorns -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2005 Oregon State Beavers -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2006 and 2007 With unity comes VICTORY !

11-22-2003, 02:06 PM	#3
chrisj All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Edmonton, Alberta (but still wishing I was in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada) Posts: 834	Never had a 1 star player like that... but I've had 1 star players who have played surprisingly well (for example, being able to be one of my top 3 starters on a championship team). __________________ Canadian Baseball League -- Commissioner -- Calgary GM

11-22-2003, 04:05 PM	#4
rcbuss Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Mauston, WI Posts: 226	I had a 1-star player in our league (IOSBL) with the following line: 14-6 189ip 183h 45bb 132k 3.48 15-10 216ip 187h 47bb 174k 3.38 12-8 183ip 162h 57bb 131k 2.85 He was 32 midway through the last of his 2 years with me, when I traded him to the other league (8-4, 2.42 at that time). __________________ Robert C Buss FOBL Mauston Mad Cows

11-22-2003, 06:22 PM	#9
Ragin Cajun All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Atascosita, TX Posts: 1,173	On the other hand, I've seen players with 3 or 3 1/2 stars that are horrible in my opinion. Poor or Fair ratings for average but Good or Brilliant for HR and avoid K's. The game still boosts for that HR power. But a .200 hitter isn't worth it. __________________ Former NBSL Commissioner: 16 years Former Online League Owner; six time champion

11-22-2003, 05:01 PM	#6
Ragnar Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,478	I had a 2 and a half star pitcher that will be in the hall of fame but no lower than that. The stars can be deceptive. This pitcher had low ratings at ERA and hits allowed but everything else were 8's and above. He hardly ever gave up an extra base hit or walked anyone. To me those are the best pitchers. Alot of the higher star pitchers have low extra base hit ratings. That can hurt you.

11-22-2003, 05:34 PM	#7
jmaness84 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,685	Yea or they can have low BB & HR ratings. Those are 2 very important ratings when i judge how good a pitcher is

11-22-2003, 05:44 PM	#8
SpaceNinja Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 92	I've found that one-star pitchers can frequently be excellent. In the MBBA, my rotation last year featured three one star starters. One went 23-7 with a 2.90 ERA, and another 19-8 and 3.79. The third melted down, but batting .666 ain't too shabby. And the one that wasn't any good was coming off three consecutive years in which his highest ERA was 3.11. My point being that stars aren't particularly relevatory for pitchers. You have to look at statistics and peripheral ratings, rather than just assume that the more pretty gold stars, the better.

11-23-2003, 02:58 PM	#10
PBRmeASAP Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 63	I see alot of one star pitchers witl a low "stuff" rating but brilliant control and movement. They typically sign cheap and are my ace

11-23-2003, 03:53 PM	#12
UKSubs Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 272	Tewskbury! __________________ Counter Culture Baseball Commissioner/Houston Astros RANZBA Adelaide Crows

11-24-2003, 11:45 AM	#14
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	If 1-star players are used properly, they can make a big difference for a team. There seem to be players who do very well in a backup/utility role, but if they get the start too often, they go right down the tubes.

11-24-2003, 11:56 AM	#15
Karen Lutz Ball Breaker Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada OOTPChampionships: 5 Posts: 898	1 star utility men.. such a great thing! What would we do without them?

11-24-2003, 05:44 PM	#16
reitman1 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 38	Here's my favorite one star player. I was looking at the box score for the All-Star game one year and saw this guy had made the all star game but was only ranked one-star. On top of that, he was batting over .400. I thought it was a bug or something, but then saw he had a 10 in hits against lefties but a 0 against righties. Its the biggest split I've ever seen in the game. So I ended up trading for him and now I only use him against left handed pitching. If he lasts long enough, its possible that he could get on the career leader board for hits with the lowest amount of at bats in my league. http://www.users.muohio.edu/reiternt/p2942.html

12-04-2003, 07:23 AM	#20
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,992	I don't remember Luis G. The Catcher having those ratings in my download of the roster, so I assume he just randomly developed like that. But I've been wrong before once or twice, so who knows.