Triples?

UKSubs · 03-07-2003, 11:57 PM

Has anyone noticed a lot of triples in games that are played out? I appear to be averaging one triple in those games, but the rest of the league doesn't appear to have any more triples than they did in OOTP 4. I've even seen a pitcher hit a triple (the second triple of that inning and third of the game).

A.J. Holz · 03-08-2003, 12:01 AM

Back-to-back triples are a killer for me. I'll have a pitcher sailing along, BOOM all of a sudden he gives up back-to-back 3-baggers and he's one run down & in a jam.

Having played a lot of PBP games out, though, I'd have to say you're right, I *seem* to see more of them in the game than I do in real life.

Haven't run the numbers yet to see if the frequency's more than normal though.

UKSubs · 03-08-2003, 12:05 AM

Also a lot more than in OOTP 4. I really noticed it when I switched my PBP league over from OOTP 4 to OOTP 5 and balls hit down the right field and even sometimes the left field line were turning into triples. I would think it was the settings for the league, but my teams has twice as many triples as any other team does. And it is only Game 10 of the season.

church · 03-08-2003, 12:07 AM

Probably wobbly wheeled shopping trolly effect. You can use a hundered shopping trollys without a problem then bang, you get two in a row with a wobbly wheel and you'll complain that you keep getting bad trollys.

baseballbob · 03-08-2003, 12:19 AM

I once read somewhere in an ootp post that someone felt that when they played through their games on a play by play basis that the results were significantly different from a sim through the entire season option.

I'm new to ootp. Does anyone have any input on what sorts of differences, (other than increased 3B's), that I could expect?

Such observations would help me decide league structure and schedule parameters since I try to calibrate those considerations in such a way as to yield what feels to me to be a good mix of playing through the games and simming them.
Thanks,
Kevin

A.J. Holz · 03-08-2003, 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by church
Probably wobbly wheeled shopping trolly effect. You can use a hundered shopping trollys without a problem then bang, you get two in a row with a wobbly wheel and you'll complain that you keep getting bad trollys.

hehe...probably right. Stupid trollys...

faris · 03-12-2003, 10:29 AM

I have too noticed an increase in the number of triples. In 14 games, all played out not simmed, my team has about 1/3 as many triples as I had the entire year last year, with essentially the same line up. Last year was also played out game by game. (Perhaps another thread, but I have also noticed an increase in HBP. I'm guessing I've seen four or five guys a game hit by a pitch so far.)
Regarding triples, can I adjust the ballpark settings? If so, to what number?

rasnell · 03-12-2003, 11:12 AM

I will add that there seem to be an inordinate number of pickoffs. I really hate this, especially when you're not planning on sending the runner, a hit and run has not been called and you really need to play conservative on the base paths. We ought to have an option to protect against this. You would sacrifice going from first to third on a single, but you would avoid getting picked off (something like that).

sixfour210 · 03-12-2003, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by church
Probably wobbly wheeled shopping trolly effect. You can use a hundered shopping trollys without a problem then bang, you get two in a row with a wobbly wheel and you'll complain that you keep getting bad trollys.

Shopping trolly?

Is that what they call them in Canada? Interesting.

We call the shopping carts.

A.J. Holz · 03-12-2003, 11:26 AM

Where I grew up, they were also called shopping carts.

Where I live now (Atlanta), they call them...

'buggies'

rogmax11 · 03-12-2003, 11:49 AM

This is probably all my fault. I harped and ragged and was snide and sarcastic to such a degree that I was ostracized within my own peer group. Oh the loneliness! Oh the despair! Oh the ignominy! Not a realistic model for triples I kvetched; how the hell can a player with high speed ratings and a flock of doubles in his career not hit a single triple? How, I asked archly, is this a realistic simulation?

And lo, I was heard. And it appears, answered.

And like many a fool before me who rashly implored the heavens, I asked for rain but reaped the deluge.

There is my confession, and I beg your pardon. I do have hopes, however, that we may soon look forward to fully customzable playoffs and a viable scheduling monitor. Now I must depart, for my shopping trolly trembles outside whilst I tarry.

VT Os fan · 03-12-2003, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by A.J. Holz
Where I grew up, they were also called shopping carts.

Where I live now (Atlanta), they call them...

'buggies'

This explains the wobbly wheel. It's not a feature, it's a bug....

treedom · 03-12-2003, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sixfour210
Shopping trolly?

Is that what they call them in Canada? Interesting.

We call the shopping carts.

not everywhere in canada...i live in ontario and we call them shopping carts or buggies here...

Rockpile · 03-12-2003, 12:37 PM

See also my dynasty report. 13th inning triple by the Mets' Cliff Floyd. My MR BALKS him home and ruins my one run lead (in the playoffs mind you).

The game went through 20 innings. I had been kicked out of the game for fighting with the umps and my SS defensive replacement bobbles a ball allowing the winning run to score.

03-07-2003, 11:57 PM	#1
UKSubs Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 272	Triples? Has anyone noticed a lot of triples in games that are played out? I appear to be averaging one triple in those games, but the rest of the league doesn't appear to have any more triples than they did in OOTP 4. I've even seen a pitcher hit a triple (the second triple of that inning and third of the game). __________________ Counter Culture Baseball Commissioner/Houston Astros RANZBA Adelaide Crows

03-08-2003, 12:01 AM	#2
A.J. Holz All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 650	Back-to-back triples are a killer for me. I'll have a pitcher sailing along, BOOM all of a sudden he gives up back-to-back 3-baggers and he's one run down & in a jam. Having played a lot of PBP games out, though, I'd have to say you're right, I seem to see more of them in the game than I do in real life. Haven't run the numbers yet to see if the frequency's more than normal though. __________________ NABA - Tijuana Toros / Commish ORB - Oakland Athletics (former owner) MBBA - Seattle Storm JOBL - Grand Forks Varmints (former owner) FIBB - Chicago Fire TMBU - Tulsa Tomcats (former owner) ACL - Oakland A's (former owner) ACB - Rockville Superbas

03-08-2003, 12:05 AM	#3
UKSubs Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 272	Also a lot more than in OOTP 4. I really noticed it when I switched my PBP league over from OOTP 4 to OOTP 5 and balls hit down the right field and even sometimes the left field line were turning into triples. I would think it was the settings for the league, but my teams has twice as many triples as any other team does. And it is only Game 10 of the season. __________________ Counter Culture Baseball Commissioner/Houston Astros RANZBA Adelaide Crows

03-08-2003, 12:19 AM	#5
baseballbob Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 101	on a related note I once read somewhere in an ootp post that someone felt that when they played through their games on a play by play basis that the results were significantly different from a sim through the entire season option. I'm new to ootp. Does anyone have any input on what sorts of differences, (other than increased 3B's), that I could expect? Such observations would help me decide league structure and schedule parameters since I try to calibrate those considerations in such a way as to yield what feels to me to be a good mix of playing through the games and simming them. Thanks, Kevin

03-12-2003, 11:12 AM	#8
rasnell Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky Posts: 3,746	I will add that there seem to be an inordinate number of pickoffs. I really hate this, especially when you're not planning on sending the runner, a hit and run has not been called and you really need to play conservative on the base paths. We ought to have an option to protect against this. You would sacrifice going from first to third on a single, but you would avoid getting picked off (something like that). __________________ Charlie Root won more games for the Cubs than any pitcher (201), yet was remembered for one pitch to Babe Ruth. Find out more about the 1929 World Series in my book, "Root for the Cubs: Charlie Root and the 1929 Chicago Cubs." See the web site at www.rootforthecubs.com. The book is at http://www.amazon.com/Root-Cubs-Char...t+for+the+cubs. Beta tester, OOTP 2007-2023 and iOOTP 2011-2014.

03-08-2003, 12:07 AM	#4
church Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2002 Location: winnipeg, manitoba. Posts: 121	Probably wobbly wheeled shopping trolly effect. You can use a hundered shopping trollys without a problem then bang, you get two in a row with a wobbly wheel and you'll complain that you keep getting bad trollys.

03-12-2003, 10:29 AM	#7
faris Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 35	I have too noticed an increase in the number of triples. In 14 games, all played out not simmed, my team has about 1/3 as many triples as I had the entire year last year, with essentially the same line up. Last year was also played out game by game. (Perhaps another thread, but I have also noticed an increase in HBP. I'm guessing I've seen four or five guys a game hit by a pitch so far.) Regarding triples, can I adjust the ballpark settings? If so, to what number?

03-12-2003, 11:26 AM	#10
A.J. Holz All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 650	Where I grew up, they were also called shopping carts. Where I live now (Atlanta), they call them... 'buggies' __________________ NABA - Tijuana Toros / Commish ORB - Oakland Athletics (former owner) MBBA - Seattle Storm JOBL - Grand Forks Varmints (former owner) FIBB - Chicago Fire TMBU - Tulsa Tomcats (former owner) ACL - Oakland A's (former owner) ACB - Rockville Superbas

03-12-2003, 11:49 AM	#11
rogmax11 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,320	This is probably all my fault. I harped and ragged and was snide and sarcastic to such a degree that I was ostracized within my own peer group. Oh the loneliness! Oh the despair! Oh the ignominy! Not a realistic model for triples I kvetched; how the hell can a player with high speed ratings and a flock of doubles in his career not hit a single triple? How, I asked archly, is this a realistic simulation? And lo, I was heard. And it appears, answered. And like many a fool before me who rashly implored the heavens, I asked for rain but reaped the deluge. There is my confession, and I beg your pardon. I do have hopes, however, that we may soon look forward to fully customzable playoffs and a viable scheduling monitor. Now I must depart, for my shopping trolly trembles outside whilst I tarry.

03-12-2003, 12:37 PM	#14
Rockpile All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 620	See also my dynasty report. 13th inning triple by the Mets' Cliff Floyd. My MR BALKS him home and ruins my one run lead (in the playoffs mind you). The game went through 20 innings. I had been kicked out of the game for fighting with the umps and my SS defensive replacement bobbles a ball allowing the winning run to score.