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Old 10-26-2011, 07:07 PM   #1
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A few things that could improve the game

First let me say: AWESOME GAME!

1) Keep the top 5 or even just the top 1 historical leaders for stats. I know the data is there, it's just a matter of displaying it. As it is right now you have to go through th ehall of fame and look at every individual player, which is obviously tedious if you get a few seasons under your belt.

2) Give us the ability to sort the Hall Of Fame screen or something along those lines...it would tie in nicely with #1.

The next item isn't so much a request for a feature, just a request for an explanation. Here is the situation: I started a game with the current rosters and did a fantasy draft. I ended up chosing the Brewers cuz they were the highest NL team to draft. I always simulate everything. I just prefer to let my GM skills determine my W-L record rather than my managerial skills...since I know very little about baseball tactics.

So, after the draft I check my Market Size (Rather Big) & Fan Loyalty (can't remember, but it was the step below Extreme). Fast forward to the year 2045. I have won 18 World Series, and have made the playoffs 30/35 years (4 of the years I missed were the first 4 years of the game while I was building my team), including the last 20 years straight. My overall record is 3730-2036 (.647 pct). In fact I have 5 threepeats of world series wins (and might have a 4-peat if I win it this year!). If you compare my stats with that of the Yankees, they won 18 championships from 1923-1958, which is...35 years. I'm not trying to brag, I'm simply saying that I have turned the Brewers into an absolute powerhouse.

So my question is this: does my Market Size ever increase? It's been "Rather Big" for 35 years, while I've been destroying the league for 35 of those years. My Fan Loyalty increased to "Extreme" about 15 years ago I think, but yet my Market size refuses to budge. I would assume that the market size of a team that wins 18 World Series in the span of 35 years would increase it's market size. Since it's taken me this long and I haven't even seen my market size budge one bit, I'm worried that it will take another 100 years to get my market size to the top level...which is insane. Maybe in 2145 I can relocate the Brewers to the moon and increase it's market size...and home runs (hello no gravity!)

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Old 10-27-2011, 02:35 PM   #2
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So my question is this: does my Market Size ever increase? It's been "Rather Big" for 35 years, while I've been destroying the league for 35 of those years. My Fan Loyalty increased to "Extreme" about 15 years ago I think, but yet my Market size refuses to budge. I would assume that the market size of a team that wins 18 World Series in the span of 35 years would increase it's market size. Since it's taken me this long and I haven't even seen my market size budge one bit, I'm worried that it will take another 100 years to get my market size to the top level...which is insane. Maybe in 2145 I can relocate the Brewers to the moon and increase it's market size...and home runs (hello no gravity!)
I don't see why Market Size would depend on your team's winning ability. If we can look at the Green Bay Packers, their Market Size is small even though they've been winning in awhile. I think that would be similar to the Brewers. No matter how much you win, Milwaukee isn't going to see a huge influx of people moving into the area.

I would think your Fan Loyalty would increase and you say it is does. And your merchandising revenue should increase because of your performance. But you're still going to be limited in the number of people you can draw to a game in your area because I don't think that should be affected by performance.
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Old 10-27-2011, 05:59 PM   #3
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I don't see why Market Size would depend on your team's winning ability. If we can look at the Green Bay Packers, their Market Size is small even though they've been winning in awhile. I think that would be similar to the Brewers. No matter how much you win, Milwaukee isn't going to see a huge influx of people moving into the area.

I would think your Fan Loyalty would increase and you say it is does. And your merchandising revenue should increase because of your performance. But you're still going to be limited in the number of people you can draw to a game in your area because I don't think that should be affected by performance.
Here is a list of all the metropolitan areas (& population) that have one or more MLB teams and those teams starting market size.

New York (18,897,109) - NY(A) (Astronomical) & NY(N) (Rather Big)
Los Angeles (12,828,837 - LA(A) (Rather Big) & LA(N) (Above Average)
Chicago (9,461,105) - Chi(A) (Big) & Chi(N) (Rather Big)
Dallas/Ft Worth (6,371,773) - Texas (Above Average)
Philadelphia (5,965,343) - Philadelphia (Huge)
Houston (5,946,800) - Houston (Below Average)
Washington (5,582,170) - Washington (Average)
Miami (5,564,635) - Florida (Below Average)
Atlanta (5,564,635) - Atlanta (Above Average)
Toronto (5,500,000) - Toronto (Below Average)
Boston (4,552,402) - Boston (Very Big)
San Fran/Oakland (4,335,391) - SF (Rather Big) & Oakland (Below Average)
Detroit (4,296,250) - Detroit (Rather Big)
Pheonix (4,192,887) - Arizona (Below Average)
Seattle (3,439,809) - Seattle (Average)
Minneapolis (3,317,308) - Minnesota (Rather Big)
San Diego (3,095,313) - San Diego (Small)
St. Louis (2,812,896) - St. Louis (Above Average)
Tampa Bay (2,783,243) - Tampa Bay (Small)
Baltimore (2,710,489) - Baltimore (Average)
Denger (2,543,482) - Colorado (Above Average)
Pittsburgh (2,356,285) - Pittsburgh (Small)
Cincinnati (2,130,151) - Cincinnati (Above Average)
Cleveland (2,077,240) - Cleveland (Small)
Kansas City (2,035,334) - Kansas City (Small)
Milwaukee (1,555,908) - Milwaukee (Average)

As you can see metro size does not equate to market size exactly. There are other factors that come into play, such as tradition (Boston) or lack of (Texas), current high (St. Louis) or low (Houston) quality of team. This is all correctly represented initially by the game. However, when you get 40 years down the road, I believe that the market size of your team should increase as you build a tradition. Case in point, I've won 18 titles in 35 years. Yet I cannot increase my market size larger than "Rather Big" while playing as Milwaukee. Granted that the actual metropolitan area of Milwaukee won't ever reach the size of New York, however, that does not mean that the marketability (or market size) won't ever reach the Astronomical heights that the Yankees have reached. In fact it has more bearing on the lower end of the spectrum. In other words, the Mets will never reach the market lows that Milwaukee can reach because of the sheer size of the city.

The best example of this is the Green Bay Packers. I would submit to anyone that outside of the Dallas Cowboys and/or the Pittsburgh Steelers, no other team is as well known and marketable as the Green Bay Packers. Yet they play in by far the smallest market of any professional sport. Now, football as we know isn't limited to marketability because of the shared revenue in the current CBA. But even before the CBA, the Pittsburgh steelers were one of the most successful franchises in NFL history, both on the field and off the field. Their market size has always been huge because of their tradition.

I'm just pointing this out because a market size is truly not limited by the size of the area a team plays in. Especially since everyone owns a TV now a days. Every team is instantly visible and only the winning teams make it to the nationally televised games outside of their respective market. This enables teams to trancend their market size. So technically, every team has the same market size: the entire population of the United States. It's just a matter of winning or losing. If you win, more people watch your team. If you lose, less people watch your team.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:42 AM   #4
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I agree to all of those very nice ideas
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:45 AM   #5
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I agree to all of those very nice ideas
Why are you commenting on 18 month old threads

You're gonna get yourself a rep ....
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:48 AM   #6
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I'm trying to get it so that I get higher from minors (rookie ball) to something higher
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:53 AM   #7
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I'm trying to get it so that I get higher from minors (rookie ball) to something higher
You'll just get yourself banned mate .. not worth it

The status doesn't entitle you to anything extra
If you keep doing what you are now you'll just p*** people off as all of your random posts will feature in the most recently updated list .... when you aren't contributing anything to the topics

Some of your earlier posts have been good mate - don't spoil it ....
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You'll just get yourself banned mate .. not worth it

The status doesn't entitle you to anything extra
If you keep doing what you are now you'll just p*** people off as all of your random posts will feature in the most recently updated list .... when you aren't contributing anything to the topics

Some of your earlier posts have been good mate - don't spoil it ....
I agree with Disco Dog 13. Even if you don't get banned, you'll get ignored if people think that your postings are a waste of time to read. To be honest, I was wondering that exact thing with respect to your postings on the last one that I read before this one. No offense meant at all ... it's just insight into what other people might be thinking.
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