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Old 06-12-2010, 06:45 PM   #1
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52-4, a score, not a W/L record

Pictures first, they're the fun part. Bit of a bad day I'd say.





With my league settings there are only 4-man bullpens, Cagle and Martinez for Boston are both position players. It was the perfect storm of their starter getting hurt early, plus the small pen, plus three of their four relievers having horrible stamina (2's on the 2-8 scale), and topped off by having been recently over-worked.

Wouldn't have been nearly as ridiculous if the CPU were capable of moving their RF'er to the mound, he actually has semi-decent pitching ratings. Would have also been better for them had they acknowledged their short pen and didn't yank their 6 endurance "closer" after a single inning (Hannah).

Burch and Pader played a game of "who can run (or walk) all the way around the bases the most."

My 9-hitter just set the league record for RBI in a game. He's basically a left-handed Mike Cameron minus the ability to take a walk, swings like a man and runs like a gazelle in center. If you don't expect him to walk, or make much contact, or hit a lefty, or steal a base, or bunt, he's great.

Other thoughts, even position players with horrid pitching ratings should be able to accidentally get the ball over the plate and/or have the ball "find" more gloves than this. Better situational awareness by the manager wouldn't hurt either.

Here are the special notes in readable form.

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SP Phil White was injured while pitching.
Marvin Burch ties the American League regular season game record for runs with 5.
Gabriel Pader ties the American League regular season game record for runs with 5.
Marvin Burch sets the American League regular season game record for runs with 6.
Gabriel Pader ties the American League regular season game record for runs with 6.
Marvin Burch sets the American League regular season game record for runs with 7.
Jesús Vargas ties the Sioux Falls Warriors regular season game record for RBI with 9.
Gabriel Pader ties the Sioux Falls Warriors regular season game record for bases on balls with 4.
Marvin Burch ties the Sioux Falls Warriors regular season game record for bases on balls with 4.
Gabriel Pader ties the American League regular season game record for runs with 7.
Roberto Sánchez ties the Sioux Falls Warriors regular season game record for bases on balls with 4.
Marvin Burch sets the American League regular season game record for runs with 8.
Jesús Vargas ties the American League regular season game record for hits with 5.
Jesús Vargas sets the American League regular season game record for at bats with 8.
Jesús Vargas sets the American League regular season game record for RBI with 11.
Mike Edwards ties the Sioux Falls Warriors regular season game record for bases on balls with 4.
Alonso Martínez ties the Boston Patriots regular season game record for walks with 10.
Gabriel Pader ties the American League regular season game record for bases on balls with 5.
Marvin Burch ties the American League regular season game record for bases on balls with 5.
Roberto Sánchez ties the American League regular season game record for hits with 5.
Gabriel Pader ties the American League regular season game record for runs with 8.



Box score and game log in the attached zip file for those with nothing better to do.
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Old 06-12-2010, 07:06 PM   #2
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Whoa!

That's crazy!

Thanks for sharing

Poor Martinez, 97 pitches in one inning!
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Old 06-12-2010, 07:41 PM   #3
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Ummm, why didn't Bazayev get the save?






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Old 06-12-2010, 08:15 PM   #4
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You'd think that after giving up 21 runs in the first 5 innings that hanging that goose egg up there in the 6th would have been a confidence builder..... instead, they responded by giving up 31 more runs in the last 3 innings....
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Old 06-12-2010, 08:16 PM   #5
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And, wow, 386 pitches by Boston.
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:33 PM   #6
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Whoa!

That's crazy!

Thanks for sharing

Poor Martinez, 97 pitches in one inning!
I thought that was a glitch at first. But, if you are that wild, I guess it makes sense. Miracle he didnt just pass out on the mound.

Sioux Falls should have emptied the bench though.
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:05 PM   #7
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Whoa!

That's crazy!

Thanks for sharing

Poor Martinez, 97 pitches in one inning!
It was split between 2 innings for sure, though. Sioux Falls scored 9 in the 9th, but Johnson only allowed 1 run while pitching an inning to end the game, so it's apparant that Martinez allowed 6 runs in the 8th, 9 in the 9th. So, while 97 pitches split between 2 innings must still be hell, it isn't as bad a 97 pitches in 1 inning.
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Old 06-12-2010, 11:17 PM   #8
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Well, sure, you can blast the pitchers, but you have to cast a little blame on the defense, too. After all, only 50 of the runs were earned.
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Old 06-13-2010, 01:57 AM   #9
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Sounds like a 19th century baseball game...
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Old 06-13-2010, 02:39 AM   #10
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Well, in high school we got beat one game 22-3, and they called the slaughter rule after the 5th.
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Old 06-13-2010, 07:20 AM   #11
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Yup, Martinez relieved in the middle of the 8th after Cagle started the inning off in amazing fashion...

Walk
Walk
Home run
Home run
Walk
Walk
Single
Home run
Walk

Martinez's start to the 9th was equally impressive...

Walk
Walk
Walk
Walk
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Old 06-14-2010, 10:16 AM   #12
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That's amazing. I play out all my games but if I was managing Boston I would have either pretended I was ejected or passed out.
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Old 06-14-2010, 10:24 AM   #13
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You'd think if that happened in real life, they would stop piling it on at some point. I mean, really, it was 27-3 going into the 8th.
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I noticed that the wind was blowing out to left field at 19 mph. I wonder whether the home runs were hit to left and whether there is a short left field wall at that ball park? Is it possible that the game kind of went a little crazy because of the weather conditions? The temperature was only 44 and usually the ball doesn't carry in low temperatures. Guess it's possible I'm overthinking the score but I've never seen one like that before. Thanks for the box score it was fascinating.

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I would bench the Sioux Falls catcher....he left 10 men on base also how about backing some of theses guys off the plate and hit a few!
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I don't have any data to really back this up, but does anyone else get the feeling that the performance of position players pitching in OOTP doesn't mimic real life? IIRC, real position players pitching are basically replacement level, or replacement-lite, with ERAs in the 6.00-7.00 range. In OOTP it seems like they almost always give up 6, 8, 10 runs in an inning. Don't think I've ever seen something like this in OOTP. Boggs would have allowed 9 runs, and a 12-4 game would have ended up 21-4.

I'd like to see some real data on this, and if its true, Markus may need to put in some code that allows position players to finish off huge blowouts in a more realistic fashion.
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I don't have any data to really back this up, but does anyone else get the feeling that the performance of position players pitching in OOTP doesn't mimic real life? IIRC, real position players pitching are basically replacement level, or replacement-lite, with ERAs in the 6.00-7.00 range. In OOTP it seems like they almost always give up 6, 8, 10 runs in an inning. Don't think I've ever seen something like this in OOTP. Boggs would have allowed 9 runs, and a 12-4 game would have ended up 21-4.

I'd like to see some real data on this, and if its true, Markus may need to put in some code that allows position players to finish off huge blowouts in a more realistic fashion.
I've never had a problem with using position players in blowouts in games I've played out.
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I would bench the Sioux Falls catcher....he left 10 men on base also how about backing some of theses guys off the plate and hit a few!

No need to bench him, a couple weeks later he suffered a season ending injury.

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I don't have any data to really back this up, but does anyone else get the feeling that the performance of position players pitching in OOTP doesn't mimic real life? IIRC, real position players pitching are basically replacement level, or replacement-lite, with ERAs in the 6.00-7.00 range. In OOTP it seems like they almost always give up 6, 8, 10 runs in an inning. Don't think I've ever seen something like this in OOTP. Boggs would have allowed 9 runs, and a 12-4 game would have ended up 21-4.

I'd like to see some real data on this, and if its true, Markus may need to put in some code that allows position players to finish off huge blowouts in a more realistic fashion.

I have nothing to back this up, but it seems to me that the problem arises when the position players get fatigued on the mound. They typically have very, very low stamina, so if they don't find a way to get a couple outs right away they're completely gassed and that's when it really starts to get ugly.
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I noticed that the wind was blowing out to left field at 19 mph. I wonder whether the home runs were hit to left and whether there is a short left field wall at that ball park? Is it possible that the game kind of went a little crazy because of the weather conditions? The temperature was only 44 and usually the ball doesn't carry in low temperatures. Guess it's possible I'm overthinking the score but I've never seen one like that before. Thanks for the box score it was fascinating.

Most of the home runs were hit out to right, the entire lineup was left-handed.
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