Worst player ratings ever?

Schmidt Happens · 05-11-2009, 04:42 PM

Check out the ratings of this dog! How did he get half a star? Quite the leader though.

Curtis · 05-11-2009, 05:03 PM

Wasn't this guy a Designated Runner for the Oakland A's back in the Charlie Finley era?

Cryomaniac · 05-11-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Curtis

Wasn't this guy a Designated Runner for the Oakland A's back in the Charlie Finley era?

Lol.

Schmidt Happens · 05-11-2009, 05:07 PM

Yeah he does have some okay wheels. i like how he is a "pull hitter" under type of hitter. He has a contact rating of one with no potential improvement. The type of hitter field should be blank or to be determined. Can you get a zero for a rating?

hihot · 05-11-2009, 05:42 PM

no 1 is the lowest

Avenger · 05-11-2009, 07:43 PM

Awfully greedy for a no talent bum. He should be happy he has a job.

Afino · 05-11-2009, 08:40 PM

The bigger problem is that the game creates these clowns.

RonCo · 05-11-2009, 09:01 PM

The game can create several of these kinds of players.

Ghetto Anthony · 05-11-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Avenger

Awfully greedy for a no talent bum. He should be happy he has a job.

But he's a born leader.

Curtis · 05-11-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghetto Anthony

But he's a born leader.

Can you say 'managerial candidate'?

RonCo · 05-11-2009, 09:29 PM

I created a test league and pulled an entire draft class. Here is the average rating of a 17 year-old hitter:

The average 17 yo ratings are:

Contact: 5.98
Gap: 8.48
Eye: 4.41
AvK: 4.82
Power: 3.41
BABIP: 9.01

302 Prospects

RonCo · 05-11-2009, 09:32 PM

The max 17 yo ratings are:

Contact: 9
Gap: 16
Eye: 9
AvK: 14
Power: 12
BABIP: 14

302 Prospects

Afino · 05-11-2009, 09:51 PM

It's not the ratings that I have an issue with. It's the potential.

RonCo · 05-11-2009, 10:10 PM

Really, you should be worried about both, IMHO.

Afino · 05-11-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RonCo

Really, you should be worried about both, IMHO.

Well, I am. Don't get me wrong.

But it's just the fact that not only does this guy not have any talent, he has zero hope of EVER getting better. At least if his potentials were in the 40's, he'd be a decent minor leaguer.

RonCo · 05-12-2009, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Afino

Well, I am. Don't get me wrong.

But it's just the fact that not only does this guy not have any talent, he has zero hope of EVER getting better. At least if his potentials were in the 40's, he'd be a decent minor leaguer.

Not true. There is certainly a chance that his talents will get a big bump. It happens. It makes no real sense, as it's designed, but it does happen. There are many design flaws around in player creation, IMO, the biggest of which is that current ratings and potential ratings are not really correlated particularly well.

That said, I hear of guys who automatically cut players with ratings like this. Fine if they need to space in their organization, but they're just dropping a raffle ticket that will pay off every now and again.

RonCo · 05-12-2009, 07:29 AM

Without doing some math or additional study I would guess this guy has about a 4-5% chance of playing in the majors.

RonCo · 05-12-2009, 07:31 AM

In fact, I'm willing to guarantee his talents will go up in the next year or two. How far, I don't know. But it's nearly certain they will go up.

RonCo · 05-12-2009, 07:47 AM

Doing a quick eyeball scan of my dev charts, I'll modify my projections to about 2% that this guy will ever be able to play in the majors. He'll still almost certainly see some progression of talent, though he may just as well lose his gains as keep them.

Afino · 05-12-2009, 08:39 AM

You're right, sometimes it's okay to take a flier on guys like this ONLY IF they have a strong Work Ethic and/or Intelligence rating.

I know I certainly mine the FA pool after our draft each year just to find guys that are more likely to bump up, but I've never taken a chance on someone THIS bad.

05-11-2009, 04:42 PM	#1
Schmidt Happens Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 47	Worst player ratings ever? Check out the ratings of this dog! How did he get half a star? Quite the leader though. Attached Images

05-11-2009, 08:40 PM	#7
Afino Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,828	The bigger problem is that the game creates these clowns. __________________ GUBA: Moscow Enforcers

05-11-2009, 09:51 PM	#13
Afino Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,828	It's not the ratings that I have an issue with. It's the potential. __________________ GUBA: Moscow Enforcers

05-12-2009, 08:39 AM	#20
Afino Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,828	You're right, sometimes it's okay to take a flier on guys like this ONLY IF they have a strong Work Ethic and/or Intelligence rating. I know I certainly mine the FA pool after our draft each year just to find guys that are more likely to bump up, but I've never taken a chance on someone THIS bad. __________________ GUBA: Moscow Enforcers

05-11-2009, 05:03 PM	#2
Curtis Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Watertown, New York Posts: 4,567	Wasn't this guy a Designated Runner for the Oakland A's back in the Charlie Finley era?

05-11-2009, 05:07 PM	#4
Schmidt Happens Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 47	Yeah he does have some okay wheels. i like how he is a "pull hitter" under type of hitter. He has a contact rating of one with no potential improvement. The type of hitter field should be blank or to be determined. Can you get a zero for a rating?

05-11-2009, 05:42 PM	#5
hihot Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 126	no 1 is the lowest

05-11-2009, 07:43 PM	#6
Avenger Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Posts: 23	Awfully greedy for a no talent bum. He should be happy he has a job.

05-11-2009, 09:01 PM	#8
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,378	The game can create several of these kinds of players.

05-11-2009, 09:29 PM	#11
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,378	I created a test league and pulled an entire draft class. Here is the average rating of a 17 year-old hitter: The average 17 yo ratings are: Contact: 5.98 Gap: 8.48 Eye: 4.41 AvK: 4.82 Power: 3.41 BABIP: 9.01 302 Prospects

05-11-2009, 09:32 PM	#12
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,378	The max 17 yo ratings are: Contact: 9 Gap: 16 Eye: 9 AvK: 14 Power: 12 BABIP: 14 302 Prospects

05-11-2009, 10:10 PM	#14
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,378	Really, you should be worried about both, IMHO.

05-12-2009, 07:29 AM	#17
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,378	Without doing some math or additional study I would guess this guy has about a 4-5% chance of playing in the majors.

05-12-2009, 07:31 AM	#18
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,378	In fact, I'm willing to guarantee his talents will go up in the next year or two. How far, I don't know. But it's nearly certain they will go up.

05-12-2009, 07:47 AM	#19
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,378	Doing a quick eyeball scan of my dev charts, I'll modify my projections to about 2% that this guy will ever be able to play in the majors. He'll still almost certainly see some progression of talent, though he may just as well lose his gains as keep them.