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Old 04-27-2009, 10:58 PM   #1
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The Big Fellows

I've been reading these forums since purchasing Title Bout 2 a few years back and have immensely enjoyed the descriptions of universes and tournaments, and figured it was time to contribute something instead of just lurking, as the kids say.

After spending much time trying, and failing, to come up with something as intricate as one of professordp's richly textured universes, I realized I'd never get around to posting anything unless I came up with something much simpler.

I decided on a series of heavyweight tournaments, one for each decade, using The Ring's annual ratings as a starting point for seeding.

I started with the 1920s, but since the magazine's ratings did not appear until 1924, this would have left out one of the division's golden ages -- in terms of status, if not actual competition. Plus, the magazine ranked 37 different heavyweights from 1924-29, so once you added title challengers and top contenders from the early 20s, it was easy to get to a bracket-friendly field of 64.

I tried to include all the heavies who earned a place, but there were a few sentimental entries, too. Like Sully Montgomery, a slugger with no chin who later became even better known as a corrupt sheriff in Texas.

The expanded tourney size also allowed for the inclusion of former and should-have-been champions like Jack Johnson, Sam Langford and Jess Willard (rated for end, end and post-prime, respectively). All others were rated as prime, with fighters who were active in the 20s but did not receive a ranking by The Ring or hit their prime until the '30s, like Max Baer, were excluded.

The plan is to follow up with each decade, most likely in random order. I'm not sure about going back to the 19th century yet, due to the radical changes in rules, etc., but we'll see how it goes.

The tournament will run more or less NCAA-style at various venues of the era, with random corners and officials and computer-selected strategies.

While Dempsey-Tunney seems an obvious choice for the finals, the field also features a peak Harry Wills, '30s champions Max Schmeling and Jack Sharkey, and several others who were denied their shot by the racial climate of the times, like George Godfrey and Bearcat Wright. Even Johnson and Langford remain dangerous in their old age. And don't ever underestimate Da Preem.

The first round begins shortly from the gorgeous Newark Armory ...
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Welcome, Big Boy
I was a lurker for several years before joining myself. It is always nice to see a new uni. Good luck with yours.

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Sounds like a great idea and looks like you've given a lot of thought to the uni. I look forward to reading it and watching it as it progresses
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Opening Night in Newark

The 64-man, single-elimination 1920s heavyweight tourney is scheduled to open with Fighting Bob Martin, the 32nd seed, facing No. 33 Floyd Johnson, kicking off a four-bout card at the First Regiment Armory in Newark, N.J.

The American Expeditionary Force's heavyweight champion during World War I (he opened his professional career with a four-round loss to AEF light-heavy champ Gene Tunney) Martin was 41-12 with 40 KOs, with most of his wins coming against novices and the defeats to nearly every decent fighter he faced. The biggest victories came against Bob Roper in a newspaper decision listed by boxrec.com as his only distance win, Martin Burke and end-of-the-line former White Hopes Arthur Pelkey and Gunboat Smith.

"By early 1924 he had become banned from boxing in 18 states due to his increased frailty resulting from injuries he received from two separate car crashes in which he was involved," reads Martin's bio on boxrec.com, "leaving him with partial paralysis of his left leg and forcing him to walk with a cane. It is believed that he then became a West Virginia state trooper soon afterward

Johnson (38-13-11, 27 KOs) was probably known for getting stopped in 11 by Jess Willard at Yankee Stadium in 1923, which is really saying something, since it was the Pottawatomie Giant's first ring appearance since getting butchered by Jack Dempsey four years earlier.

"Willard had been coaxed from retirement to make a comeback because there was such a dearth of heavyweight material that Rickard thought he could still get by, but as I remember the old fellow, he couldn't fight a lick," A.J. Liebling wrote in The Sweet Science. "He had a fair left jab and a right uppercut that a fellow had to walk into to get hurt by, and he was big and soft. Johnson was a mauler worse than Rex Layne, and the old man knocked him out."

Johnson and Martin met at Madison Square Garden in 1922, with Floyd winning by TKO at 0:31 of the 10th round.

***The second opening-night match pits 21st-seeded Jack Renault against No. 44 Alvin Hunt.

Renault (80-25-3, 37 KOs), perhaps the finest heavy ever produced by the Quebecois -- OK, it's a low bar -- won twice in three tries against George Godfrey, split with Arthur De Kuh, outpointed Bob Roper and stopped Floyd Johnson and the ever-dangerous Sully Montgomery. He lost several crossroads fights, though, including a controversial 1925 points defeat to Jack Sharkey and a 10-round decision to Jack Delaney in an elimination tournament to determine a post-Dempsey challenger for Gene Tunney (who Renault faced in a bout called by refereree Pep O'Brien "because neither man was trying," according to boxrec.com and the Chicago Tribune." Something of the John Ruiz of his day, Renault was frequently criticized for dull, slow fights and also dropped a pair of decisions to a fighter more than 20 pounds lighter, Harry Greb.

Hunt ended the '20s as a rising contender and scored consecutive wins over Jim Braddock, Ernie Schaaf and Johnny Risko -- all within a span of 35 days -- before facing Renault in Philadelphia three weeks after the Risko win in Oklahoma City and 14 days after dropping a 10-rounder to Angus Snyder in Wichita. The overmanaged Hunt, who came in at 50-5-4, also lost on points to Renault and went on to lose almost as many as he won to finish 90-40-11, 39 KOs.


More previews and first-round action to come ...
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The Rest of Opening Night

In the evening's third bout from the First Regiment Armory in Newark, N.J., Johnny Risko, the tournament's 14th seed, faces No. 51 Jim Maloney.

Risko's career mark (80-53-7, 21 KOs) blurs the accomplishments of a guy who beat future heavyweight champions Max Baer and Jack Sharkey, contenders like Paolino Uzcudun, George Godfrey, Otto von Porat, Phil Scott, Tony Galento, Tom Heeney and Ernie Schaaf, then-light-heavy champ Paul Berlenbach in an over-the-weight match, former light-heavy king Tommy Loughran after he moved up in weight, and former middleweight champ Mickey Walker when he campaigned as a heavy. In today's world of myriad title belts and recycled challengers (nothing against Hasim Rahman), Risko would have been fighting for titles annually. But somehow, he never got his shot.

For the morbid among us, the Cleveland native's most memorable win was against cross-Ohio rival Joe Sekyra of Dayton in 1927.

"Shortly after this bout, Sekyra had a 52-foot tapeworm removed from his system," reported the Tacoma Times, by way of boxrec.com. Sekyra does not appear in the database, but if anyone has worked up a rating for him, I hope it includes his numbers with and without the worm. He was 21-5-4 before the eviction, but just 37-30-2 after, if that helps.

Risko also possessed one of the less imposing nicknames in heavyweight history, "The Cleveland Rubber Man." While its genesis had not been uncovered at press time, it may have had something to do with muscle tone, or lack thereof. In its account of Risko's 1928 10-round points win over Godfrey, it describes his physique as "doughy."

Maloney's biggest win was a 10-round decision over Primo Carnera, the future champion's third career loss. His 49-18-2, 20 KOs record included a win over Risko in their first meeting, which the latter avenged three times via decision. Maloney also owned wins over tourney entrants Tom Heeney, Con O'Kelly, Jack Demave and Jack Renault, as well as then-light-heavy titlist Jack Delaney, seeded 8th in the 20s heavyweight tourney.

---In the first night's main event, No. 7 Billy Miske takes on 58th-seeded Willie Meehan, who probably doesn't deserve that high a ranking, but is far too cool to leave out of the bracket.

Miske (72-14-17, 31 KOs) is best remembered for lasting three rounds with Jack Dempsey despite suffering from Bright's Disease, then stopping Bill Brennan in a bout of questionable integrity less than two months before succumbing to the illness on Jan. 1, 1924. But he also scored legitimate wins over Brennan via points, drew with Dempsey in 1918, as well as topping Jack Renault, Bob Roper and Fred Fulton, while splitting with light-heavy legend Tommy Gibbons, this tournament's No. 3 seed.

Meehan makes the field less for his 77-35-38, 15 KOs mark than for his boxrec.com encyclopedia description, which sounds lifted from a contemporary publication:

"Famous for never training or doing any roadwork whatsoever. He ate whatever and whenever he wanted. Fought in all divisions from flyweight to heavyweight. As a rotund heavyweight, it was said, "..He is so fat, blows do not make an impression on him, and he is so awkward, that even the cleverest of opponents can find no way to reach him effectively."

Still, the 5-foot-9 Meehan somehow won four-round decisions against Dempsey in 1917 and 1918 (as well as two draws, against only one loss to the future champion) and outpointed an out-of-shape Sam Langford in 1919.

Though often beaten, Meehan didn't always take it well. Box.rec com cites the Seattle Daily Times' description of "Fat Boy's" reaction to a four-round decision defeat to Floyd Johnson by saying that he "'with a show of berserker rage, rushed Schacht as he started to go through the ropes.Meehan began swinging at the referee, but missed and hit the ropes instead. Johnson stepped in to restrain Meehan. When the police arrived, Meehan began acting goofy and said that he was only kidding."

After the two fought to a four-round draw in 1918, Miske won a 10-round newspaper decision in 1919 and stopped Meehan in the first in 1922. Unfortunately, Meehan's behavior on those occasions is lost to history. But you have to wonder if a sell-out crowd at the old Armory will bring out the worst (or best, depending on your perspective) in him.


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Ding, Ding ...

NEWARK -- With an announced crowd of 8,124 -- all but seven of them smoking cigars -- filling the First Regiment Armory, Fighting Bob Martin and Floyd Johnson opened the Roaring Twenties Heavyweight Extravaganza with a bout as close as their respective seedings -- 32nd and 33rd.

After a slow first half of the first round, Martin landed the first serious blow -- with the top of his head. After getting a warning from referee Johnny Callas for the rather blatant butt, Martin battered Johnson for the rest of the round and through the second, hurting "The Auburn Bulldog" with a pair of uppercuts midway through that frame, then driving him to the ropes with a smashing right shortly before the bell.

Martin scored again with his skull early in the third, drawing another warning and seemingly awakening Johnson, who landed a sneak right and several body shots in the final minute to take the frame.

Martin shifted his fouling tactics in the fourth, landing a low blow moments after the bell. Johnson later retaliated with a head butt of his own, but not until eating enough punches to drop another round.

A big left hook early in the fifth stunned Johnson, but he regained control with punishing body work and a straight right in the final minute.

The sixth through eighth rounds were tight, with Johnson seeming to have an edge over the tiring Martin.

After a slower, but still tight ninth, Johnson took a slim edge into the final round. And proceeded to do nothing with it.

Martin came out swinging and, after several misses, scored with an uppercut and a combo to the body that drove Johnson into the corner, where he ate an overhand right. Having done enough to win the round, the exhausted Martin held on for most of the final minute, with Johnson offering little protest.

Despite throwing little more than half as many punches, Johnson made them count, landing 48 percent to Martin's 28 percent. So the crowd, largely behind Johnson after Martin's early cranial offensive, started murmuring with surprise when Judge Terrance Makaluza's score of 97-93, Martin, was announced.

The boos turned to cheers when Michael Buffer reported Luis Padon's view of 96-94, Johnson, then to groans when Hans Larsen's 95-95 cop-out was revealed.

Under tournament rules, a rematch will be fought two weeks hence. Since neither fighter went down or was marked, and these guys are used to fighting a few times a month, anyway, recovery time shouldn't be an issue.

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Jack Renault (No. 21) vs. Alvin Hunt (No. 44)

Eager to avenge the points loss that sent his career into a tailspin, Alvin “Babe” Hunt, the 44th seed, took a measured approach in the early rounds against No. 21 Jack Renault, making the French-Canadian miss frequently while throwing just enough punches of his own to gain favor from the judges while keeping an increasingly sweaty crowd from turning on him.

After winning the first three rounds uneventfully, Hunt shook Renault with a left hook to open the fourth and continued scoring to the head and body.

Things slowed to a stop in the fifth, then the pattern of the first three rounds resumed in the sixth and seventh, with Hunt muffling what little offense Renault attempted with solid defensive glove work and the occasional clinch and landing sporadic counters of his own.

In Renault’s corner before the eighth, trainer Bouie Fisher tossed aside his sponge, picked up the spit bucket and doused his charge with the contents.

“Maybe that will wake you up,” Fisher sneered at Renault, before raising his hand as if to strike the seated fighter. “If not, you’ll get some of this next time.”

A still-dripping Renault responded to the rather crude motivation, landing a left hook to Hunt’s jaw 30 seconds in and landing power shots for the next two minutes, leaving the underdog sagging into the ropes, one good shot away from a stoppage with half a minute remaining.

But Renault lost his aim again, flailing away without effect until the bell.

Renault found his mark again in the ninth, staggering Renault early with an uppercut, then a downstairs-upstairs pair of hooks that caused Hunt’s right eye to swell and referee Pete Podgorski to look very closely at the battered fighter.

Once again, though, Renault ran out of gas, this time for good. He failed to land another punch for the final 30 seconds of the ninth, then could not score with a meaningful punch in the final frame, while Hunt took the round with a couple of uppercuts.

Then Henry Discombobulating Jones gathered the scorecards and stepped to the microphone:

“Ladies and Gentlemen, the scorecards are in, and here is your official decision ...

Ramon Cerdan, Argentina scores the bout 96 to 94 for Alvin Hunt

Jeffrey Belton, New Zealand scores the bout 96 to 94 for Jack Renault

Paul Thomas, England scores the bout 96 to 93 for the winner by split decision ...

... Alvin Hunt.”

The verdict was roundly booed by a crowd that came to life during Renault’s onslaught in the eighth (a 10-8 round on two cards) and ninth and, to be frank, had been drinking fairly heavily for a couple of hours. Still, Hunt’s win -- the tournament's first upset in its second bout, was difficult to rationally dispute -- given his steady control through the first seven rounds.

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Johnny Risko (14) vs. Jim Maloney (51)

The 1934 bout between Johnny Risko and Jim Maloney ended in a 10-round decision in favor of “The Cleveland Rubber Man,” an outcome not surprising for a couple of journeymen with a combined knockout rate below 25 percent.

Perhaps inspired by the raucous crowd, both came out eager to end things early. The underdog rocked Risko with two huge overhand rights in the bout’s first 90 seconds and swelled the 14th seed’s right eye with several jabs later in the first.

Risko swung things his way in the second with a series of combos followed by a snapping uppercut, finding an opening that would prove pivotal in the third. A scythe-like uppercut a minute in tore open Maloney’s nose, sending a river of blood over his upper lip. Gasping for air, Maloney held on until receiving a warning from referee Benji Esteves. The wounded fighter managed to keep an energized Risko at bay with a hard jab, then held on until the final seconds, when he absorbed a cracking right to the jaw.

Legendary cutman Freddie Brown tried to work his magic during the break, wiping the blood away and smearing the wound with Vaseline, making Maloney’s schnozz look merely misshapen, and not about to fall off.

The illusion lasted all of 48 seconds, when a swiping right cross from Risko failed to jar Maloney’s brain, but succeeded in extending the vertical gash further down the bridge of his nose, nearly reaching the tip. Realizing that Esteves was not going to allow him to fight for long with a nose that was very close to becoming plural, Maloney eschewed the clinch-to-survive strategy and slugged it out, finishing the round with a hard jab and thudding uppercut that forced Risko into grappling mode just before the bell.

After soaking up a sponge full of blood in Maloney’s corner, Brown broke out the thromboplastin, a medicinal plastic that he used to save Rocky Marciano in his second meeting with Ezzard Charles.

Again, Brown’s artistry proved fleeting, as Risko’s right cross 15 seconds into the fifth landed with the effect of a sledgehammer coming down on a well-decomposed tomato.

Esteves called time and led Maloney by the arm to his corner, where the ringside physician, Dr. Nicholas Riviera, who looked at the wound, shook his head and said, “That’s gotta hurt.”

Riviera then turned to Esteves, shrugged and said, “If he wants to fight, who am I to stop him?”

No sooner had the referee reluctantly waved the fighters back together than Risko’s best punch of the fight, a vicious straight right, landed square and sent Maloney stumbling backward into the ropes, drawing groans and cries of “Enough already!” and “That’s disgusting, even by the standards of a bloodthirsty mob!” from ringsiders.

Esteves looked rather pale as he led Maloney back to Dr. Riviera, who turned and ran screaming up the aisle and out of the arena. Interpreting that as a cue to stop the fight, Esteves declared Risko the winner by technical knockout at 44 seconds of the fifth round.

Maloney, who led on two scorecards by margins of 40-36 and 39-37 at the end, while trailing on the third by a 39-37 count, was rushed to Saint Michael’s Hospital for emergency plastic surgery.

“That made The Rock’s cut look like a kid’s pimple,” Brown said after the fight. “Ewww.”

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Tournament Resumes After Political Delay!

Things got so raucous on opening night of The Roaring Twenties Heavyweight Extravaganza at the First Regiment Armory in Newark, N.J., got so raucous that concerned city leaders felt they had no choice but to take action.

The well-being of the cigar-smoking masses thus preserved, Newark officials allowed the tournament to continue, with a second four-card bout matching eight of the decade's top 64 heavyweights in first-round, single-elimination action.

(Note: In the interest of keeping things moving along in a more timely fashion, the rather windy previews of the first night's action will be truncated into USA Today-style capsules, with briefer fight summaries, at least for the early rounds.)

Jack Gross (No. 26 seed) vs. Jack DeMave (39)

Jack Gross
47-8-1, 31 KO

Notable fights: W10 Young Bob Fitzsimmons; W10 Jack Roper (twice); KO1 Sully Montgomery; L10 Tommy Loughran (three times); TKOby5 W10 George Godfrey; KOby4 TKOby7 Primo Carnera.

A southpaw, started career 29-0-1 before first loss to Loughran in 1928.

Jack Demave
36-29-7, 13 KO

Notable fights: WbyDQ9 Sully Montgomery; KO2 Tony Stabenau; W10 Arthur DeKuh, W10 Young Bob Fitzsimmons; D10 Johnny Risko; L8, KOby1 Young Stribling, KOby2 Otto von Porat, L10; W10 Ray Neuman, L10 Jim Maloney (three times).

The fights with Neuman must have been very entertaining, since they all took place within a three-month span in the summer of 1928, all at Braves Field.

Bearcat Wright (17) vs. Bob Lawson (48)

Bearcat Wright
65-18-18, 39 Kos

Notable fights: KO5 Fred Fulton; KO4 Porky Dan Flynn; L10, KOby9, D12, TKOby5, KO9 Sam Langford; won four of five against Tut Jackson, three by KO; KOby4 Primo Carnera; D10 George Godfrey; KO5 Jack Johnson; L10 Mickey Walker; L6 Max Baer.

Avoided by white contenders, fought lengthy series against fellow black exiles like Bill Hartwell, Bob Lawson, Tut Jackson. Also fought Sam Langford in five of his first nine recorded fights, winning only the last (KO9) in 1922. Stopped a 50-year-old Johnson in 1928.

Bob Lawson
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36-26-3, 18 Kos

Notable fights: Lost two of three to Bearcat Wright, all three going the distance; KO7 Jack Johnson; ND10 Johnny Risko; KOby6, TKOby10, L8 Tiger Flowers.

Eight-round decision loss to future middleweight champion Flowers came in his pro debut.

Jack Sharkey (9) vs. Vittorio Campolo (56)

Jack Sharkey
The Boston Gob
38-14-3, 13 KO
Heavyweight champion 1932-33

Notable fights: LbyDQ4, W15 Max Schmeling; W15, KOby6 Primo Carnera; WbyDQ13 Harry Wills; TKO3 Jack Delaney; W10 Young Stribling; KOby7 Jack Dempsey; KOby3 Joe Louis.

Made name in losing effort against Dempsey, in which he unsuccessfully claimed a foul just before knockout punch.

Vittorio Campolo
El Gigante de Quilmes
21-8-1, 17 KO

Notable fights: W byDQ3 Arthur de Kuh; TKO9 Tom Heeney; D10, L10 Phil Scott; W12 Arturo Godoy; KOby9 Monte Munn; KOby2, L12 Primo Carnera.

Best known for his 6-foot-9 height, Argentinian nearly retired after suffering a concussion in loss to Munn, but recovered to fight most of the top contenders of the late ‘20s and early ‘30s.

Gene Tunney (2) vs. Bud Gorman (63)

Gene Tunney
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Heavyweight champion 1926-28
80-1-3, 48 Kos

Notable fights: W10 Jack Dempsey (twice); L15, W15, W15, D10, W10 Harry Greb; KO11 Tom Heeney; KO12 Tommy Gibbons; W10 Johnny Risko; W10 Jimmy Delaney.

Avenged only loss, to Greb for the American Light Heavyweight title, three times (plus a newspaper-decision draw); only heavyweight champion besides Marciano to retire without ever losing within the division.

Bud Gorman
48-18-11, 13 KO

Notable fights: W10, LbyDQ1; Jack Sharkey; W10, W6 Jack Demave; D10, W10 Eddie McGoorty; KO2 Bob Lawson; LbyDQ3 Tom Heeney; W10 Sully Montgomery; KOby2 Jack Delaney; W10 Tony Galento; KOby2 Primo Carnera.

Was involved in seven disqualifications, winning four.
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Welcome to the board, and I think your tournament will be worth watching, but it's to bad Jack Renault lost in the first round.
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The crowd wasn't happy with Renault's elimination, either. But at least you've still got Larry Gains to carry the flag for The True North ...
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Saturday Night in Newark

Jack Gross KO10 Jack Demave: Gross, who had Demave down in the ninth and at the beginning of the 10th, finishes it with a left hook that sends his opponent down and out at the 1:26 mark.

Demave was also badly hurt in the eighth. Gross, who won most rounds clearly, led 88-82 (twice) and 87-83 going into the 10th.

Bearcat Wright TKO10 Bob Lawson: All three of their real-life fights went the distance, but Wright ends this one with a final barrage with less than a minute remaining.

Lawson, his left eye badly swelling, hit the floor in the ninth and early in the 10th before the referee finally intervened. Wright led 88-82 (twice) and 87-83 at the time of the stoppage. Same scores as Gross-Demave, but a much more competitive bout, with most rounds closely fought until the bigger Wright wore Lawson down in the final two rounds.

Jack Sharkey W10 Vittorio Campolo: Campolo nearly scored the upset of the tournament to date, rallying in the final three frames and scoring heavily from the outside despite a badly swollen right eye.

Sharkey never had the much taller Campolo in serious trouble, but won enough of the early rounds to pull out a 97-93, 94-96, 97-93 win.

Gene Tunney KO1 Bud Gorman: Tunney spent half of the first round sizing up his badly outmatched foe, then knocked him out with the first serious punch thrown by either man, a right cross to the jaw. Gorman was counted at 1:42.

Some in the crowd of 8,307 threw rotten tomatoes and apples at Gorman as he left the ring. Security officials at the Armory, expected to be a site for future bouts in the tournament, vowed to begin screening for produce at the door.
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First-round action from San Francisco

The site of several pre-championship Jack Dempsey bouts, Dreamland Rink in San Francisco will host eight first-round bouts.

Dreamland was replaced by the New Dreamland Rink in 1928, which would later become known as Winterland Ballroom, a legendary concert venue of the 1970s. For two nights, though, the original Dreamland is the center of this boxing universe.


Ernie Schaaf (No. 31) vs. John Lester Johnson (34)

Ernie Schaaf
58-15-2, 23 KO

Notable fights: L10, W10, W10, L10 Tommy Loughran; W10 Ray Neuman; W10 King Solomon; W10, L12 Johnny Risko; W10 Young Stribling; W10 Tony Galento; W10 Jim Braddock; W10 Tuffy Griffiths; W10 Jack Gross; W10, L10 Max Baer; KOby13 Primo Carnera.

Schaaf died of “an inter-cranial hemorrhage,” according to boxrec.com, four days after getting stopped by Carnera. Less than six months earlier, Schaaf was knocked unconscious late in the final round by Baer, but saved by the bell and so lost on points. His death is often cited as a reason not to license fighters who have had any sort of previous brain injury, though no tests existed at the time to show if Schaaf suffered such an injury against Baer. Fought 17 times in 1931, his only loss coming against Loughran.

John Lester Johnson
40-30-6, 24 KO

Notable fights: D10 Jack Dempsey; W10 Porky Dan Flynn; L10, L8 Harry Wills; L10, L10 Joe Jeannette; KOby1 Sam Langford; KO4 Tut Jackson; W10 Bob Roper.

Broke Dempsey’s ribs in their 1916 meeting. Went on to a Hollywood career, including several appearances with The Three Stooges in the 1930s.

Larry Gains (28) vs. Bill Hartwell (37)

Larry Gains
114-23-5, 60 KO

Notable fights: W10 Bud Gorman; W10 Quintin Romero Rojas; W10 Ray Neuman; TKOby6 Bill Hartwell; TKOby6, WbyDQ3 George Godfrey; KO2 Max Schmeling; KO2 Phil Scott; W10 Primo Carnera.

A Toronto native who fought almost exclusively in England during the final decade of his career, Gains had the misfortune of peaking at a time when heavyweight champions Dempsey and Tunney defended infrequently against anyone, and never against black challengers.

Bill Hartwell
25-21-5, 17 KO

Notable fights: WbyRTD6 Jack Johnson; TKOby7, D10, D10, D12, W10 Bearcat Wright; L10, L12, W10 Bob Lawson; L10 Paolino Uzcudun; KOby2 George Godfrey.

Career record hurt by going 7-14-1 over final three years. Beat a 50-year-old Jack Johnson, who retired claiming a broken hand, after six rounds. Huge for his time at 6-foot-3 and weighing 220-230 pounds.

Tuffy Griffiths (14) vs. Sandy Seifert (51)

Tuffy Griffiths
74-13-3, 41 KO

Notable fights: WbyDQ7, W10, W10, L12 Johnny Risko; KO1 Sandy Seifert; KO1 Sully Montgomery; L10 Ernie Schaaf; KOby7 Max Baer; W10, L10 Kingfish Levinsky; TKO10 Tom Heeney; W10 Con O’Kelly; L10 Tommy Loughran; L10 Young Stribling; TKOby2 Jim Braddock (at light-heavy).

Loss to Schaaf was highly unpopular with the crowd, according to the United Press by way of boxrec.com. Fought most of the contenders of the late ‘20s and early ‘30s, beating most of them, but never got a whiff of a title shot.

Sandy Seifert
21-13-6, 7 KO

Notable fights: D10, W10 Jack Demave; L10, W12 Emmett Rocco; L10 Johnny Risko; L10 Bob Lawson; L10 Jack Gross; D10 Battling Levinsky; KOby1 Tuffy Griffiths.

Ended career with a 2-10-1 skid, capped by a first-round KO by Griffiths, to mar overall record. Was 15-2-5 at the end of 1926, with most of the wins save one over Demave over anonymous competition. That was enough to earn him the No. 12 ranking by The Ring (then going with the Top 15), and entry into this tournament.

Harry Wills (5) vs. Ray Neuman (60)

Harry Wills
The Black Panther
80-10-5, 52 KO

Notable fights: W10, KOby14, W10, W20, KOby19, W10, W8, D6, W10, W12, KO6, TKO7, W8, NC10, W15, W15, W10; KO3 Tut Jackson; W12 Luis Angel Firpo; KO1 Floyd Johnson; LbyDQ13 Jack Sharkey; LbyKO4 Paolino Uzcudun; KO1 Denver Ed Martin; KO1 Gunboat Smith; KO2 Kid Norfolk.

Should have been the No. 1 contender for most of Jack Dempsey’s title reign, but never fought for the title. Faced Langford at least 17 times, winning 15. Unlike Langford and Jack Johnson, was still near his peak for much of the 1920s, though he was 37 by the time of his losses to Sharkey and Uzcudun.

Ray Neuman
16-22-9, 3 KO

Notable fights: ND12, W10, L10 Jack DeMave; L6, W10 Bob Lawson; L10 Bud Gorman; L12 Paul Berlenbach; L10 Young Stribling; L10 Larry Gains; L10 Battling Levinsky.

Perhaps due to a manager who knew people -- or, like Seifert, a win over DeMave late in the year -- somehow wound up ranked No. 14 in 1925. After decisioning Lawson to start ’26, immediately set about resting on his laurels and went 1-13-1 to end his career.

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Ernie Schaaf W10 John Lester Johnson: Johnson throws caution to the wind, to say nothing of the rulebook, but still comes out on the short end of a 97-92, 95-94, 97-92 decision.

Referee Tellis Assiminios issues five warnings to Johnson, but never takes a point. That may be because the slight underdog fouls so creatively, getting admonished for five distinct fouls – a low blow, hitting on the break, head butting, using his shoulder and leaning on Schaaf’s neck. Schaaf, in turn, gets scolded for holding and hitting.

Schaaf seals the win in the eighth, when he drops Johnson for an eight count midway through the round.

Larry Gains TKO9 Bill Hartwell: The Canadian’s edge in experience shows, as he finds a rhythm through the first four mostly even rounds, then takes control in the fifth.

Early in the eighth, Hartwell puts his head down to work Gains’ body along the ropes, but is straightened up by a right uppercut that opens a gash over his right eye. A left hook late in the round widens the cut and though referee Robert Ferrara allows the fight to continue, he changes his mind when the wound starts gushing again midway through the ninth.

Gains leads 77-75, 78-74, 77-75 at the end.

Tuffy Griffiths TKO6 Sandy Seifert: Seifert, whose inclusion in the tournament has beenwidely criticized, due to his pedestrian career, comes out eager to prove he belongs.

He succeeds – at least for one round.

After an early warning for holding and hitting from Paul Field, Seifert -- whose real-life career ended with a first-round stoppage by Griffiths -- shakes Tuffy with a hard left to the ribs, then works the jab before scoring with another hook to the body to seal the round.

It’s just about all Griffiths from there, though. The longtime contender starts to open up in the fifth and continues Seifert in the sixth, sending him slumping into the ropes with a crunching hook with nine seconds remaining. Only the bottom rope keeps the semi-conscious Seifert from hitting the deck and a merciful Field intervenes.

Griffiths leads 48-47, 49-46, 48-47 after five completed rounds.

Harry Wills KO5 Ray Neuman: Another heavy underdog with iffy credentials does little more than provide target practice for one of the tournament favorites.

Wills drops Neuman with a jolting left-right with a minute left in the first, then proceeds to batter the hapless Neuman with everything he throws for another 12 agonizing minutes.

Finally, with Neuman trying to stagger away from the onslaught, referee Earl Morton – who could have called it off with justification in three of the four completed rounds – belatedly takes action.

Wills leads 40-35, 40-36, 40-35 at the stoppage.
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Tom Heeney (24) vs. Erminio Spalla (41)

Tom Heeney
The Hard Rock From Down Under
37-23-8, 15 KO

Notable fights: TKOby11 Gene Tunney; W15 Jack Delaney; W10, L10 Johnny Risko; KO1, L10 Jim Maloney; D12 Jack Sharkey; W10 Jack Demave; WbyDQ3 Bud Gorman; L20 Phil Scott; L10, D15 Paolino Uzcudun; KOby3, L10 Max Baer; TKOby10 Tuffy Griffiths; L10 Otto Von Porat.

Tough New Zealander whose career went into a tailspin starting with his title challenge of Tunney, going 5-15-3 from that point. Plenty of more deserving fighters in this tourney never got a shot at a championship, but Heeney earned his by going unbeaten in seven straight in 1927-28, including draws against Sharkey and Uzcudun.

Erminio Spalla
39-11-4, 28 KO

Notable fights: W12 Martin Burke; TKOby7 Gene Tunney; TKOby14, L12 Luis Angel Firpo; Piet van der Veer W20; D20 Jack Humbeek; L15 Paolino Uzcudun; KOby7 Victorio Campolo.

The first Italian to win the European heavyweight crown, Spalla spent most of his career on the continent and in South America. His biggest American bout was in 1924 against Tunney, who was then campaigning for a shot at Jack Dempsey. “Spalla, wielding split lips as well as a claret from the nose, turned the bout into an ugly brawl in the seventh when the frustrated Italian wrestled Tunney to the canvas,” Nat Fleischer wrote in his Tunney bio. “ Immediately after the tumble, the referee awarded Tunney the inevitable victory, not by disqualification as Spalla's cornermen believed at first, but on a technical knockout.”

Sam Langford (20) vs. Frankie Campbell (45)

Sam Langford
The Boston Terror
203-46-52, 129 KO

Notable fights: Far too many to list.

Fought the best in whatever weight class he was at, from welterweight to heavyweight (except for any sitting heavyweight king), over a 24-year career. By the 1920s, the 5-foot-7 virtuoso was past his peak and losing his eyesight, but still had enough to earn wins over Bearcat Wright, Tut Jackson, Bill Tate, Brad Simmons, George Godfrey and Fireman Jim Flynn, while losing a decision to Harry Wills.

Frankie Campbell
33-4-2, 26 KO

Notable fights: KO2 Natie Brown; KO7 Tony Stabenau; KO4 Les Kennedy; TKOby5 Max Baer.

The brother of Brooklyn Dodgers first baseman Dolf Camilli, Campbell was one of the top prospects on the West Coast until his fatal meeting with Baer. The Web site maxbaer.org gives Campbell a lengthy tribute that’s well worth a read (Welcome to MaxBaer.org - Frankie Campbell !!).

George Godfrey (11) vs. Jack Dorval (54)

George Godfrey
The Black Shadow of Lieperville
99-20-2, 81 KO

Notable fights: D10, KOby2, KOby1 Sam Langford; KOby11, L10, W10 Jack Renault; KO7 Bill Tate; KO5 Tut Jackson; W10, W12 Martin Burke; WbyDQ7 Sully Montgomery; L10 Jack Sharkey; W6 Bob Lawson; TKO5 Jack Roper; KO1 Jim Maloney; Larry Gains TKO6; TKO4 Monte Munn; W10 Paolino Uzcudun; L10 Johnny Risko; TKO3 Bud Gorman; KO2 Bill Hartwell; DQby5 Primo Carnera; NC10, D10, NC10 Bearcat Wright.

Huge (6-foot-3, 240+pounds), particularly for his time, Godfrey certainly would have gotten a title shot in almost any era. Fought almost every top contender of the 1920s, beating most. All three fights against Langford took place within his first nine as a pro. Disqualification against Carnera is often cited as evidence of the latter’s unsavory connections, as fight film (available on youtube) shows Godfrey getting the better of the action before the Ambling Alp collapses after a body blow. To be fair, it wasn’t the first time Godfrey had been disqualified and the final punch lands with Carnera’s back to the camera, obscuring the view. It is telling, however, that Godfrey never got a rematch.

Jack Dorval
Napoleon Jack Dorval, The Pennsylvania Timberwolf
22-7-4, 15 KO

Notable fights: TKO2 Knute Hansen; W10 Tony Galento; W10 Babe Hunt; W10 Otto von Porat; W10 Arthur de Kuh; L10 Ernie Schaaf.

Greatest accomplishment was making the cover of the July 1928 edition of The Ring, following his win over von Porat. Died in a plane crash in 1936.

Tommy Gibbons (3) vs. Emilio Solomon (62)

Tommy Gibbons
96-5-4, 48 KO

Notable fights: D10, L by DQ10; W10 Billy Miske; W10 Georges Carpentier; L15 Jack Dempsey; KOby12 Gene Tunney; W10, W10, L10, L15 Harry Greb; W10 Bartley Madden; TKO1 Willie Meehan; W10 Bob Roper.

Did his best work at light-heavyweight, including very tight series with Greb, but was also one of the top heavies of the ‘20s. Gave Dempsey trouble and provided a blueprint for Tunney’s win three years later. Also fought well against Tunney before fading late and getting stopped in the final bout of his career, with the win launching Tunney to his shot at Dempsey.

Emilio Solomon
King Solomon
22-32-4, 9 KO

Notable fights: W8, W12, D10 Quintin Romero Rojas; L10, L10 Jack Sharkey; L10, LbyDQ4, L10 Jim Maloney; TKOby9 Paul Berlenbach; D10, TKO5 Ray Neuman; L10 Johnny Risko; L10 Larry Gains; L10 Otto von Porat; L10 Bearcat Wright; L12 Con O’Kelly.

Giving a respectable account of himself in defeat, along with a cool nickname, seem to have been Solomon’s selling points. Somehow earned the No. 12 spot in The Ring’s 1925 rankings, despite going 5-7 that year, closing out with three losses to Maloney, one to Sharkey and one to Berlenbach, sandwiched around a decision over Rojas.

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Erminio Spalla W10 Tom Heeney: The Italian edges the New Zealander over the final three minutes to take the 10th round on all three cards, pulling out a 95-94, 94-95, 95-94 split decision upset. Heeney, whose eye started swelling early in the fight, was penalized a point for a low blow in the eighth, a punishment that cost him a draw and a rematch.

Sam Langford W10 Frankie Campbell: The aging legend can still see, and punch, well enough to take a unanimous decision over the ill-fated San Franciscan. The early rounds are pretty even, with Langford pacing himself and Heeney struggling to solve the defenses of his cagey foe. Langford takes over in the fifth and sweeps the next four rounds, with a booming right in the eighth depositing Campbell on the seat of his trunks and sealing the victory.

George Godfrey KO5 Jack Dorval: Godfrey starts at a slow pace, wearing down his smaller opponent with periodic clinches and body shots. The scorecards are even after four rounds, but Godfrey’s power starts to show in the fifth and he ends it with a single right cross. Dorval is counted out at the 2:50 mark.

Tommy Gibbons W10 Emilio Solomon: Gibbons starts strong, dropping the overmatched King in the first and twice in the third. For some reason, though, he reverts to a defensive approach. Gibbons wins every round on one card and all but one on the other two, but draws boos from the capacity crowd at Dreamland over the final few rounds.
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First-round action continues from the Velodrome d'Hiver in Paris, with eight fights over two nights.

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Fred Fulton (30) vs. Con O’Kelly (35)

Fred Fulton
The Rochester Plasterer
85-19-4, 70 KO

Notable fights: KOby4 Al Palzer; TKO7 Sam Langford; TKO7, KO2 Gunboat Smith; D10 Billy Miske; KOby1 Jack Dempsey; TKO3, W8 Frank Moran; WbyDQ6, LbyDQ5 Carl Morris; KOby3 Harry Wills; KO4, D12, W12 Bob Roper; L12 Floyd Johnson; LbyDQ4, KOby9 Jack Renault.

Had 1918 title challenge against Jess Willard set up, but fight fell through. Enormous (6-foot-6), particularly for his era, and fought both southpaw and orthodox as needed. Hard puncher, as demonstrated by high KO percentage, but iffy jaw shown in quick KOs by Dempsey, Wills, etc.

Con O’Kelly
51-16-7, 30 KO

Notable fights: W15 Piet van der Veer; WbyDQ6 Ernie Schaaf; L10, TKOby3 Jim Maloney; W12 King Solomon; L10, D10 Kingfish Levinsky; L10 Tuffy Griffiths.

Ran up an impressive (36-5-4) record in the UK before crossing the Atlantic, but served mostly as a rugged opponent over here, with a winning percentage just over .500. Only stoppage loss in U.S. was due to a cut eye in second meeting with Maloney. Son of pre-WWI heavyweight Con O’Kelly Sr., who also fought in the U.S. and UK with mixed success.

Luis Angel Firpo (23) vs. Carl Morris (42)

Luis Angel Firpo
The Wild Bull of the Pampas
31-6-0, 26 KO

Notable fights: W12, KO12 Gunboat Smith; KO12 Bill Brennan; KO3 Jack McAuliffe II; KO8 Jess Willard; KOby2 Jack Dempsey; TKO14 Erminio Spalla; L12 Harry Wills; L12 Charley Weinert.

Best known for possibly the wildest heavyweight championship fight ever, the loss to Dempsey in which he knocked the Manassa Mauler down twice in the first round – completely out of the ring on one occasion – but crashed nine times himself in a little more than three minutes of action.

Carl Morris
The Original White Hope
57-21-2, 39 KO

Notable fights: KO3 Marvin Hart; L10, WbyDQ9, W10 Fireman Jim Flynn; L12 Luther McCarthy; LbyDQ5, D4, L4 Gunboat Smith; L10 Jess Willard; W6 Porky Dan Flynn; L10 Jim Coffey; W15, WbyDQ6 Battling Levinsky; W10 Frank Moran; WbyDQ5, LbyDQ6, KOby4 Fred Fulton, TKOby4; L10 Billy Miske; L4, LbyDQ6, KOby1 Jack Dempsey; KO3 Martin Burke; LbyDQ 3 Bob Roper; LbyDQ2 Sully Montgomery; TKO8 Tut Jackson.

Turned pro two months after the 1910 Jack Johnson-Jim Jeffries fight that fueled the search for a “White Hope.” Unlike most who carried the moniker after him, Morris could actually fight a bit, though his chief attribute was an ability to absorb punshment. Big (6-foot-4 and 220-235) and awkward, he kept referees busy, winning six fights via disqualification while losing five times on fouls.

Bob Roper (16) vs. Quintin Romero Rojas (49)
Bob Roper
Captain Bob
53-36-12, 26 KO

Notable fights: L10 Jack Johnson; W10, KO6 Frank Moran; W10 Bill Brennan; L10, L12, L10, L12, L10 Harry Greb; L10 Tommy Gibbons; W12, L10, W10 Bob Martin; D15, W10 Gunboat Smith; W10 Bartley Madden; KO3 Carl Morris; D12 Battling Levinsky; LbyDQ6, D12 Billy Miske; KOby4, D12, L12 Fred Fulton; L10, L10 Jack Renault; W10 Quintin Romero Rojas.

Quintin Romero Rojas
25-49-8, 10 KO

Notable fights: KO9 Jack Sharkey; KOby2, W12 Gunboat Smith; KOby7 Floyd Johnson; L10 Martin Burke; D6 Sully Montgomery; W12 Johnny Risko; W10, KOby4, W10 Jack Renault; L10 Martin Burke; L10 Bob Roper, L10 Jim Maloney; L10 Harry Greb; TKOby3 Young Bob Fitzsimmons; TKOby4 Young Stribling.

Wins over Sharkey, Risko and Renault in 1924 earned the Chilean the No. 5 spot in the inaugural annual rankings by the ring, as well as a spot in this tournament. Rojas was 16-5-3 at that point, but apparently, all the attention went to his head. He lost his first eight fights of ’25 and went 9-34-5 over the final six years of his career, with a 1927 upset of Renault the only meaningful win over that span.

Young Stribling (6) vs. Bombardier Billy Wells (59)

Young Stribling
King of the Canebrakes
257-15-15, 128 KO

Notable fights: W10, KO1 Otto von Porat; KO1, TKO1 Martin Burke; KO6 Ray Neuman; KO2 Sully Montgomery; L10 Jack Sharkey; W10, LbyDQ6 Babe Hunt; W10, KO1 Jack DeMave; LbyDQ4, WbyDQ7 Primo Carnera; KO2 Phil Scott; W10 Arthur de Kuh; W10 Tuffy Griffiths; Lby15 Max Schmeling; L10 Ernie Schaaf; TKO5 Jack Renault.

Started boxing as part of a family vaudeville act and turned pro as a featherweight. Grew into one of the top light-heavy and heavyweight contenders of the 1920s. Lost a decision to Schmeling in his only title shot, but was positioning himself for a fight with Carnera, with whom he had split a pair of controversial disqualifications in ’29, when he was killed in a motorcycle accident at age 28 in 1933 while on the way to visit his wife and new baby in the hospital.

Bombardier Billy Wells
41-11-0, 34 KO

Notable fights: W20 Porky Dan Flynn; KO6 Iron William Hague; KOby3 Al Palzer; KOby4 Georges Carpentier; W3, KO16 Eddie McGoorty; TKO10 Albert Lloyd.

Won British title in 1911 and held it through World War I. Fought only twice in the U.S. and on two other occasions outside the U.K.
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Fred Fulton W10 Con O’Kelly: Fulton is getting the better of things until the final seconds of a heated fifth, when an O’Kelly uppercut drops the giant Minnesotan for a four count. Fulton regains control in the sixth, nearly stops O’Kelly in the seventh, then drops the Yorkshireman in the eighth, ninth and 10th. To his credit, O’Kelly makes it to his feet each time. Fulton takes a 98-89, 97-90, 97-89 decision.

Luis Angel Firpo KO7 Carl Morris: Firpo batters and nearly stops Morris during a brutally one-sided first round, then drops “The Original White Hope” in the fourth. Morris endures the onslaught, though, and finds Firpo’s chin late in the sixth, dropping him with a right cross just before the bell. Firpo rushes off the stool in the seventh, flooring Morris with a hard combo seconds into the round, flattening him with another midway through and finishing him with a right cross. Referee Earl Morton tolls 10 over Morris with 12 seconds remaining in round seven.

Quintin Romero Rojas WbyDQ7 Captain Bob Roper: The crowd at the Velodrome, in a frenzy after the wild Firpo-Morris punch-out, nearly riots at the end of this enormous upset. Roper is warned for excessive holding at the end of the first and it only gets worse from there. Referee Gerald Scott winds up issuing six warnings – four to Roper and two to Rojas – and taking a point in the fourth from Captain Bob after he delivers a punch to the Chilean’s groin with his next swing after being warned for the same.

The two clean up their acts in the fifth and sixth, two back-and-forth rounds won narrowly by Rojas, with each bringing the crowd to its feet. Late in a slow seventh, though, the two revert to form. Rojas gets Roper in a headlock and wails away until Scott intervenes. Then, with Rojas’ back turned after missing with an overhand right, Roper delivers a savage shot to his opponent’s kidney. Rojas drops as if shot and remains on the floor until Scott rules the foul blatant and disqualifies Roper, triggering a brawl between a large contingent of American fans and their French counterparts, who have adopted Rojas. Rojas leads 59-54 on all three cards at the end.

Young Stribling TKO6 Bombardier Billy Wells: Young Stribling built on the Ugly American motif started by Roper in the previous fight, drawing warnings from referee Danny Nelson on three occasions. Ahead 49-46 on all three cards, Stribling shook Wells with a right cross early in the sixth, then softened the Brit up with jabs before dropping him with an uppercut with 30 seconds remaining.

Wells was up at three, but another hard right ripped a gash over Bombardier Billy’s left eye. The ringside doctor was willing to let the fight go on, but Nelson thought better of it and declared Stribling the winner with nine seconds left in the sixth.
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A preview of the second night of fisticuffs in the shadow of the Eiffel Tower ...

Otto von Porat (27) vs. Martin Burke (38)

Otto von Porat
39-14-0, 24 KO

Notable fights: L10, KOby1 Young Stribling; W10 Jack Renault, TKO1 Harry Persson, TKOby8 Martin Burke; W10 Jimmy Delaney; W10, W10 Sully Montgomery; KO4 Sandy Seifert; WbyDQ3 Chuck Wiggins; L10 Paulino Uzcudun; W10 King Solomon; TKO5 Battling Levinsky; LbyDQ2 Phil Scott; W10 Tom Heeney; L10 Johnny Risko.

Born in Sweden, he won a gold medal for Norway in the 1924 Olympics and settled in Chicago after retiring. As a pro, he beat a number of contenders, but was unable to reach the elite level and is described in a 1930 Ring magazine as lacking “aggressiveness … and the ‘killer instinct,’” according to boxrec.com.

Martin Burke
57-33-8, 23 KO

Notable fights: L12, L15 Bartley Madden; W15 Bob Roper; L10 Gene Tunney; L20 Charlie Wiggins; W15 Young Bob Fitzsimmons; L15, L12 Billy Miske; W15 Fred Fulton; L12 Charley Weinert; W10 Johnny Risko; W10 Sully Montgomery; W15 Floyd Johnson; L12, L10 Tommy Loughran; L10, L10 George Godfrey; TKO8 Otto von Porat; W6 Ray Neuman; W10, L10 Larry Gains.

A tough test for most contenders of the 1920s. His win over von Porat came in his 78th pro fight, just the third for the Norwegian.

Jack Johnson (19) vs. Chuck Wiggins (46)

Jack Johnson
The Galveston Giant
73-13-9, 40 KO

Notable fights: W14 Tommy Burns; KO12 Stanley Ketchel; TKO15 James J. Jeffries; KOby26 Jess Willard; W10 Bob Roper; KO4 Farmer Lodge; L10 Homer Smith; KOby7 Bob Lawson; L10, L10, KO2 Bob Simmons; KOby5 Bearcat Wright; TKOby6 Bill Hartwell.

The former champion was 41 by the time the 1920s dawned, but in the midst of an 11-year undefeated streak that did not end until two months after his 48th birthday. The stigma attached to his name, both from the controversy surrounding his tenure as champ and the suspicious defeat that ended it, prevented him from fighting top contenders or getting near a shot at Jack Dempsey. But the record shows he could still fight as he neared 50.

Chuck Wiggins
103-56-20, 29 KO

Notable fights: L10 Harry Greb; KO5, W10, D12, W10 Johnny Risko; L10, L12 Gene Tunney; D10 Martin Burke; L10, W10 Jimmy Delaney; TKOby15 Tommy Gibbons; L12 Charley Weinert; W10 Sully Montgomery; L10, L10, D10 Tiger Flowers; LbyDQ6, L10 Young Stribling; L10 Bearcat Wright; W10 Jack Renault; LbyDQ7 Jack DeMave; W10 Larry Gains; WbyDQ8 Frankie Campbell; WbyDQ7, TKOby7 George Godfrey.

From boxrec.com bio page:

INDIANAPOLIS, May 18, 1942 (AP)--Charles F. (Chuck) Wiggins, veteran of hundreds of fights in and out of the ring, died yesterday in City Hospital of a fractured skull, which he apparently suffered in a fall down a stairway. He finished his formal schooling with the completion of the seventh grade. Street fights built up his interest in the prize ring and he had his first professional fight at the age of fifteen.

Apparently, his management didn't do much to encourage his self-esteem, given the picture above ...

Max Schmeling (4) vs. Arthur de Kuh (61)

Max Schmeling
56-10-4, 40 KO

Notable fights: KO12, KOby1 Joe Louis; TKO9 Johnny Risko; W15, W12 Paulino Uzcudun; WbyDQ4, L15 Jack Sharkey; TKO15 Young Stribling; TKO8 Mickey Walker; TKOby10 Max Baer; L12, KO9 Steve Hamas.

Split two of the biggest fights in history, from both a boxing and sociopolitical perspective, against Louis. Only heavyweight champion to win the belt on a foul, against Sharkey in 1930. Closely identified with Hitler’s Nazi regime in Germany, though he carefully distanced himself politics in the U.S., while allowing himself to be portrayed as a hero of the Reich at home. Strong boxer-puncher who pounded Louis in his prime during their first meeting.

Arthur de Kuh
47-15-1, 33 KO

Notable fights: TKOby2 Jim Maloney; L10, L10 Jack Renault; L10 Jack DeMave; L10 Jack Sharkey; LbyDQ3 Vittorio Campolo; TKO4 Bud Gorman; KOby4 George Godfrey; TKO9, W8, TKO2 Bill Hartwell; L10 Max Baer; KOby4 Tony Galento; W10 Babe Hunt; KOby1 Mickey Walker.

Piled up wins and knockouts against non-descript opponents, but lost to most of the top contenders he faced.

Georges Carpentier (12) vs. Monte Munn (53)

Georges Carpentier
Orchid Man
88-15-6, 57 KO

Notable fights: KO4 Bombardier Billy Wells; KOby4 Jack Dempsey; L10 Tommy Gibbons; KOby12 Gene Tunney; L15 Joe Jeannette; KO4 Battling Levinsky; WbyDQ6 Gunboat Smith.

A world light-heavyweight and European heavyweight champion, Carpentier’s challenge of Dempsey was an international sensation and both the first million-dollar gate and the first championship bout to be broadcast on radio.

Monte Munn
20-5-0, 15 KO

Notable fights: L10 Knute Hansen; TKOby4 George Godfrey; TKO9 Vittorio Campolo; KOby10 Phil Scott.

After retiring in 1928, the 6-foot-4 Munn, a football player at Nebraska University, became a lawyer and was elected to the Indiana legislature and ran unsuccessfully for the U.S. Senate in 1932 before dying of heart disease a year later, at age 33.
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