Delgado For MVP

EMSoccerCoach · 09-10-2008, 12:08 AM

Seriously, this guy has been on a positively insane roll for more than 2 months and is the main reason the Mets lead the division. Two more homers tonight...35 shots, 103 RBI...68 RBIs in his last 66 games and four multihomer games in his last 13.

The guy has been a machine at the biggest time of year.

Russ · 09-10-2008, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by EMSoccerCoach

Seriously, this guy has been on a positively insane roll for more than 2 months and is the main reason the Mets lead the division. Two more homers tonight...35 shots, 103 RBI...68 RBIs in his last 66 games and four multihomer games in his last 13.

The guy has been a machine at the biggest time of year.

I vividly remember numerous columnists talking about how the Mets should just release him around mid-May. These men are experts.

EMSoccerCoach · 09-10-2008, 12:24 AM

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I vividly remember numerous columnists talking about how the Mets should just release him around mid-May. These men are experts.

I never understood that, only because who were they going to replace him with? People don't think, and sportswriters generally give them very, very little reason to.

Lawley · 09-10-2008, 02:16 AM

Yeah BIG turn around from how the begining of the season was going for him though. Main reason the Mets are in it right meow.

His Own Bad Self · 09-10-2008, 02:47 AM

Meanwhile, Albert Pujols flings his remote towards his TV in disgust.

dsvitak · 09-16-2008, 05:42 PM

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Meanwhile, Albert Pujols flings his remote towards his TV in disgust.

Albert's OPS+ is only 191 this year, Delgado's is 126.

Albert is batting 95 points higher than Delgado.

Albert's OBP is 117!!! points higher.

Albert's OPS is 190!!!! points higher, at .860 to a cool 1.150

1.150 is a pretty good number, in the top 45 of ANY season, of all time.

Long_Long_Name · 09-16-2008, 06:06 PM

Albert's main competition should come from Larry Jones. Carlos Delgado's statistics are not remotely close to these two (and several other) men. He's just not close to deserving the MVP title.

crackpott · 09-16-2008, 06:11 PM

he's not even the best player on his own TEAM.

In fact, other than last year, this is still his worst year since 1996. To date, he's yet to win an MVP, and he should get one now?

Don't get me wrong... I love Delgado. I'm annoyed JP lowballed him to stay with Toronto. But he's far from deserving of the MVP this year.

Erik W. · 09-16-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dsvitak

Albert's OPS+ is only 191 this year, Delgado's is 126.

Albert is batting 95 points higher than Delgado.

Albert's OBP is 117!!! points higher.

Albert's OPS is 190!!!! points higher, at .860 to a cool 1.150

1.150 is a pretty good number, in the top 45 of ANY season, of all time.

Albert is the most under-appreciated talent in sports right now. Seriously, the ****ing meathead voters* didn't even vote him into the All Star Game. It's like he'll have to double his own numbers to get noticed because he's so consistently excellent.

* And unless I'm mistaken, the players didn't either.

kingcharlesxii · 09-16-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik W.

Albert is the most under-appreciated talent in sports right now. Seriously, the ****ing meathead voters* didn't even vote him into the All Star Game. It's like he'll have to double his own numbers to get noticed because he's so consistently excellent.

* And unless I'm mistaken, the players didn't either.

Yeah, I'd have to question the baseball acumen of anyone who doesn't vote for Pujols. He's having the best season of his career. Chipper's having a good year too but he missed a lot of games and isn't putting up quite as good numbers.

dsvitak · 09-19-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik W.

Albert is the most under-appreciated talent in sports right now. Seriously, the ****ing meathead voters* didn't even vote him into the All Star Game. It's like he'll have to double his own numbers to get noticed because he's so consistently excellent.

* And unless I'm mistaken, the players didn't either.

Hard to argue against someone hitting .353, with an OBP of .457, SLG of .641, OPS of 1.098.

Hmmm...Albert has cooled off some.

SWardle · 09-19-2008, 09:26 PM

To the topic?

Ummm, heck no? The Mets wouldn't have "needed saving" if Delgado wasn't so pitiful the first half of the season. People love to find any reason they can to not give the MVP to Pujols, I believe. The guy is going to end up like Teddy Ballgame. Magnificent career with a handful of awards to show for it. Delgado may have been great down the stretch but when the Mets are languishing in the first half he was a LARGE part of the problem, too.

dsvitak · 09-20-2008, 06:49 PM

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To the topic?

Ummm, heck no? The Mets wouldn't have "needed saving" if Delgado wasn't so pitiful the first half of the season. People love to find any reason they can to not give the MVP to Pujols, I believe. The guy is going to end up like Teddy Ballgame. Magnificent career with a handful of awards to show for it. Delgado may have been great down the stretch but when the Mets are languishing in the first half he was a LARGE part of the problem, too.

How many MVP's would Pujols have won...already...if steroids didn't exist?

His Own Bad Self · 09-20-2008, 09:08 PM

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How many MVP's would Pujols have won...already...if steroids didn't exist?

Good question. 2001: fourth behind Bonds, Sosa, and Luis Gonzalez. 2002: second behind Bonds. 2003: second behind Bonds. 2004: third behind Bonds and Adrian Beltre (?!?). 2005: won. 2006: second behind Ryan Howard. 2007: ninth.

EMSoccerCoach · 09-20-2008, 09:26 PM

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To the topic?

Ummm, heck no? The Mets wouldn't have "needed saving" if Delgado wasn't so pitiful the first half of the season. People love to find any reason they can to not give the MVP to Pujols, I believe. The guy is going to end up like Teddy Ballgame. Magnificent career with a handful of awards to show for it. Delgado may have been great down the stretch but when the Mets are languishing in the first half he was a LARGE part of the problem, too.

Understood, and Pujols is certainly having the better season. I guess I work on the assumption the award is GOING to be given to someone on a playoff team (not should, but will). And Delgado's resurgence has been amazing. But his struggles in the first 2 months certainly helped put the Mets in the position they were in in the first place.

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Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,065	Albert's main competition should come from Larry Jones. Carlos Delgado's statistics are not remotely close to these two (and several other) men. He's just not close to deserving the MVP title. __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!

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crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	he's not even the best player on his own TEAM. In fact, other than last year, this is still his worst year since 1996. To date, he's yet to win an MVP, and he should get one now? Don't get me wrong... I love Delgado. I'm annoyed JP lowballed him to stay with Toronto. But he's far from deserving of the MVP this year. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

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Lawley Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cali/Montana Posts: 381	Yeah BIG turn around from how the begining of the season was going for him though. Main reason the Mets are in it right meow.

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His Own Bad Self All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,221	Meanwhile, Albert Pujols flings his remote towards his TV in disgust.

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SWardle Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Seeking my El Dorado Posts: 548 Infractions: 0/1 (4)	To the topic? Ummm, heck no? The Mets wouldn't have "needed saving" if Delgado wasn't so pitiful the first half of the season. People love to find any reason they can to not give the MVP to Pujols, I believe. The guy is going to end up like Teddy Ballgame. Magnificent career with a handful of awards to show for it. Delgado may have been great down the stretch but when the Mets are languishing in the first half he was a LARGE part of the problem, too.