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Old 04-08-2006, 06:41 PM   #1
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CIE Player update thread

Josephus "Big Joey" Bricker is our first created player to make an apperance. At the Arizona tryout camp, Buck O'Neill gives the kid the start, but not a good day otherwise for the slugging firstbaseman. Hilton Smith struck the kid out 3 times. Bricker did have a solid drive to left in the late innings, but it turned into a loud out. Zero for 4 with 5 left on base, but a clean defensive game.

Josh Gibson hit a home run, and Buck O'Neill got a pinch hit single.

[edit] I'm planning on just reporting on our created players, but if you want to know how a "real" player is doing, you can ask here. Right now, only the 80 Negro Leaguers are playing. After the Arizona tryout camp, then regular spring training will begin.[/edit]
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Old 04-09-2006, 11:41 AM   #2
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Showcasing Josephus "Big Joey" Bricker's versatility, Buck gave the kid a start at thirdbase. Joey goes 0-2 at the plate, before being removed for a pinch hitter. Didn't show much range, but was clean with what he got to. Now 0-6, with 3 strike outs in tryout camp.
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Old 04-09-2006, 11:07 PM   #3
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Two of our created players saw action in the same game. Josephus Bricker was back at firstbase; finally getting his first two hits (singles) of the tryout. However, he struck out 2 times as well.

Winston Lafayette got the start in the game, and other than two innings where he was constantly behind the hitters, was pretty good. 7 innings, 2 walks, 4 hits, 2 earned runs and 5 strike outs.

Achilles Brown also got a start today for his squad, and was very impressive. Complete game, 3 hits, 1 walk, 9 strike outs, 1 earned run, and fielded his position brilliantly.
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Old 04-10-2006, 02:27 PM   #4
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Joey Bricker has his second straight 2 hit day. With SS John Kennedy tweeking his back, there is chance he will see a few more games at third as they may have to move players around.
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Old 04-12-2006, 12:17 PM   #5
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Joey Bricker picks up another single (and RBI). Now it may not seem impressive with what he is doing, but I really think Bricker is moving up in terms of guys who will be in a Major League camp for ST. Pitching is dominating the tryout camp, with 3 squads hovering around .200 and one at .220 for batting average. Among firstbasemen, I think (figures not in front of me) Bricker is near the top. O'Neill is crushing the ball, but he is mostly pinch-hitting, since, in his words, "That's what my role for Baltimore will be." Buck Leonard is struggling, Lyman Bostock Sr, no one has really caught up with the pitching. Now, as the camp winds down and arms start to tire, this could change, but Bricker is in a good spot for the time being.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:54 PM   #6
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Because it has been bugging me:

Buck O'Neill 3-6, 2B
Joey Bricker 5-17, 2 RBI, 8 K
Buck Leonard 4-17, 2 2B, HR, 2 RBI, 2 BB, 4 K
Luke Easter 1-5, RBI, K
Showboat Thomas 1-5, 3 K
Lazaro Salazar, 1-5, 2B
Jim West 1-6, RBI, 2 K
Lyman Bostock Sr 1-9, 3 K
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Old 04-12-2006, 10:31 PM   #7
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Achillies Brown has a bit of a stumble in his second start. 8 IP, 8 hits, 6 earned runs, 2 BB and 4 strike outs. There is still time for this guy to get back on track before camp is over.

Joey Bricker on the other hand, has a very good day. Launching a 2 out Grand Slam against Don Newcombe. Two more strike outs though, which is worrisome to the scouts. Still, Buck is giving the kid every chance in the world, that could be the difference if it comes down to him and another firstbaseman.
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Old 04-13-2006, 12:18 AM   #8
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Joey, Joey, Joey. Playing 3rd, goes 0-4, with 2 more strike outs. Buck then sits you the next game to get a couple other guys some swings.
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Old 04-13-2006, 09:48 PM   #9
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Just when I tell myself that I'm going to cut back to only doing reports every 3 games (because, I have overdone it a bit to start--it's my first interactive, forgive me) all three of our Negro Leaguers appear in the same game. I will start doing reports for every 3 games though to keep this under control tho

The good: Josephus Bricker. 3-4, 2 HR, 2B, 4 RBI, but 1 K. That's 13 strike outs on the camp, with no walks. Right now, that's the only flaw in his game. Ok, scouts would like a little more range, but 10 clubs have intial interest.

The not-so-good: Winston Lafayette. 6 IP, 10 H, 3 ER, 0 BB, 7 K. He has a problem with right handed hitters, which could be a problem in an era prior to the loogy. Four clubs have interest.

The bad: Achilles Brown. 6 IP, 7 H, 4 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, 2 HRA. After a masterful debut, Achilles has given up 10 ER in his last two starts. Four clubs have interest.
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Old 04-15-2006, 02:18 PM   #10
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Over the last 3 games:

Joey Bricker, 3-11, 6 K (4 in one game). If he makes contact, he is deadly.

Winston Lafayette, retired 1 batter (Suitcase Simpson) on a line shot to short to end a game.

Achilles Brown, more of the same, 7 IP, 10 H, 4 ER, 2 BB, 8 K. He really needs to pick it up, he set the expectations high with his first game, and just hasn't pitched up that well since.
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As we reach the halfway point of the tryout camp; this 3 game set:

Joey Bricker, 0-7, 3 K; part of a 0-12, 7 K skid

Winston Lafayette, no game

Achilles Brown, 7 IP, 7 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 8 K; better than he had been going
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Old 04-15-2006, 06:42 PM   #12
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This 3 game set:

Joey Bricker, 3-6, 2 RBI, 3 K, HR, 1st BB, 1st error

Winston Lafayette had a bounce back game, 8 IP, 6 H, ER, 2 BB, 7 K

Achilles Brown did not appear in any games
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Old 04-15-2006, 06:58 PM   #13
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From a 4 game set

Joey Bricker, 2-10, RBI, 3 K

Winston Lafayette 2 G, 1.2 IP, H, K

Achilles Brown, 7 IP, 10 H, 5 ER, BB, 3 K

There is a little over a week left at the tryout camp.
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Old 04-15-2006, 07:21 PM   #14
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After a 6 game set, 2 games to go!

Joey Bricker 5-20, 6 K. Steady, but needs to do more.

Achilles Brown, 2 GS, 15.1 IP, 14 H, 6 ER, 3 BB, 19 K. Good set for him.

Winston Lafayette, 2 GS, 13.1 IP, 12 H, 6 ER, 3 BB, 13 K. A little dip in his production.
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Joey Bricker is the only player to perform in the last two days, going 0-6, K.

Final camp totals will be posted later, along with some other numbers from the camp!
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Old 04-17-2006, 02:47 PM   #16
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Pitching dominated the tryout camp, but the dominance started to wane at the end. Here is the camp totals (each squad had 30 games)
Code:
 AVG  HR   R   AB    H  2B 3B  BB   K  OBP  SLG  OPS SB 
.244 102 488 4105 1002 162 29 326 919 .303 .372 .675 38 

ERA    IP     HA   R  ER HRA  BB   K OAVG BABIP CG SHO 
3.58 1074.1 1002 488 427 102 326 919 .244  .292 20   5
The 2.8 to 1 strike out to walk ratio is a little misleading, as 3 batters combined to have 4 walks to 104 strike outs! Remove those players and the ratio drops to 2.5 to 1, still a little high, but more in the range I had hoped for. Stolen bases were also alot lower than I had expected, but it is hard to steal if you are not on base. With those numbers in mind, let's look at our created players first.

Josephus Bricker got most of the attention in the update thread, since he was the sole created 'everyday' negro leaguer.
Code:
 G AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB HP SF  K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG  OPS 
26 89 22  1  0  4  13 5  1  0  0 36  0  0 .247 .256 .393 .649  

            G GS  PO  A DP  TC E   PCT INN   RANGE
First Base 24 24 204 12 21 217 1  .995 197.0  9.91         
Third Base  2  2   1  2  0   3 0 1.000  16.0  1.69
Not bad defensively, and ok offensively until you look at his K/BB ratio. Yes, Bricker was one of the three players who had no strike zone judgement. If not for that, he would be going to a major league camp. As it stands now, he will be (at Buck O'Neill's suggestion) be playing for the Kansas City Monarchs (but more on the Negro Leagues later)

Winston Lafayette was our veteran pitcher created and was, overall, the best performing of the 3 created players.
Code:
G GS  ERA IP   HA  R ER BB  K CG CG% SHO QS  QS% 
9  5 2.75 39.1 34 16 12  7 39  0  .0   0  4 80.0
Helped himself by being unscored upon in relief as well as being a reliable starter. Six clubs have an interest in Lafayette, so depending where he signs (I have to ask his creator about this) he could be a top of the rotation starter. I like his chances to succeed in the CL, but could be a difference maker in the PCL.

Achilles Brown was our young pitcher created was not as strong as Lafayette in his performance. However, being a young lefty, he will actually get an invite to a major league camp. If his performance does not improve at spring training, I suspect he will be let go, rather than be sent to the minors. Like Lafayette, will have to PM his creator to see where he might go.
Code:
G GS  ERA IP   HA  R ER BB  K CG  CG% SHO QS  QS% 
8  8 4.40 59.1 59 34 29 14 55  1 12.5   0  3 37.5
If he does make a team, it should be as a bullpen pitcher with an occasional start.

I post some other camp performances either tonight or Tuesday
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So, we had 81 players at the tryout camp, ranging in age from 19-41. Hall of Famers and fringe players. After tryout camp, we have three groupings of players.

Group 1: 27 players have been invited to Major League Spring training. This does not included the 7 players signed by Kansas City. These are the players who can make an opening day roster.

Group 2: 16 players who have a team holding their major league rights, but will be playing in the Negro Leagues.

Group 3: 38 players who did not get an offer or have their rights held by a CL/PCL club. These players are free agents, but it does little good as long as the NAL is still all white. NAL clubs will start integrating in 1947. These players will be playing in the Negro Leagues as well. (Why no, I haven't figured out the best way to do this yet, but I'm open to suggestions!)

So here are the players in group 1 and how they performed at the tryout camp.

Of our created players, Achilles Brown and Winston Lafayette are in group 1; Joey Bricker is in group 2.

After this, I'm going to finish the Washington roster for that thread. I have one more interlude post, and then I'm going to start working on PCL/CL rosters. After that, we'll start spring training.
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Josh Gibson, C
The only catcher to make the grade, even though a lot of teams need catchers.  Scouts were disappointed he did not show more power, and his throwing arm was less than stellar.  But Gibson did hit for the third highest average at the camp, even without the power, he would be a great hitting catcher.  
 G AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI  R BB HP SF  K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG
28 87 28  1  1  5  13 13 11  0  0 11  1  0 .322 .398 .529
Right now Buffalo, Cincinnati, Hollywood and Minneapolis are his likely destinations.  Is demanding "Paige Money" ($50,000) to sign, giving the Stars a leg up.
Code:
Luke Easter, 1B
Showed good power, but needs a bit more contact to be a middle of the order hitter.
 G AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB HP SF  K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG 
25 58 15  3  1  4  11 7  8  0  0 17  0  0 .259 .348 .552  
PCL bound.
Code:
Buck Leonard, 1B
If he wasn't 38 years old, the .256 average and 23 strike outs would not be as big a worry.  Yes he has league leading power, but how close to the end is he?
 G AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI  R BB HP SF  K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG 
28 90 23  4  0  8  18 15 10  0  2 23  0  0 .256 .324 .567
Buffalo, Cincinnati and Minneapolis are willing to sign Buck, but only if they get Gibson too.  Otherwise, probably will go to the PCL.
Code:
Buck O'Neill, 1B
Going to Baltimore to "assist" Ruth as the Babe learns how to manage.  Had pretty good camp with the bat too.
 G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB HP SF K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG  
21 30 9  2  0  1   4 3  2  0  0 0  0  0 .300 .344 .467  
But check out his pinch hitting numbers.
AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SF SH HP  AVG  OBP  SLG 
13 7  1  0  1   3 2  1 0  0  0  0 .538 .571 .846
Defensively a mess, but that's not his job.
Code:
Lazaro Salazar, 1B
Surprised scouts with strike zone judgement and defensive skill.  Line drive contact hitter, might be a good No. 2 hitter for someone.
 G AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI  R BB HP SF  K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG  
27 69 19  5  0  2  14 10 12  0  0 12  0  0 .275 .383 .435
Several teams interested.
Code:
Lick Carlisle, 2B
Would add speed, but a 36 year old singles hitter shouldn't be this valued; espcially with substandard defense.
 G AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB HP SF K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG  
27 70 19  0  1  1   8 8  8  0  0 2  1  0 .271 .346 .343 
Looks to be another PCL signing.
Code:
Martin Dihigo, 2B
If I had to do this over, I would have made him a pitcher, but I needed another infielder in camp, so I took advantage of his legendary versitility.
 G  AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI  R BB HP SF  K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG 
30 104 31  6  0  4  13 19 21  0  1 31  0  0 .298 .413 .471 
Columbus, Oakland and Phoenix are the only teams interested.  His being 40 has alot to do with that.
Code:
Larry Doby, 2B
Played a good defensive second base.  Showed the kind of power the scouts wanted from Gibson and is still growing as a hitter.
 G  AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI  R BB HP SF  K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG 
30 106 26  3  1  7  20 19 20  1  1 30  0  1 .245 .367 .491 
Baltimore would have to be the front runner, with Minneapolis, Oakland and Phoenix on the fringe.
Code:
Sammy Hughes, 2B
One of the plesant surprises at camp.  Played all over the field, hit for average and some power.
 G AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI  R BB HP SF K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG
23 73 23  9  1  2   9 14  8  0  0 5  0  0 .315 .383 .548
Oakland would be a great fit, but Minneapolis is there too.
Code:
Chuck Harmon, 3B
Something about this kid caught the eye of a couple PCL clubs.  Plays the outfield too.
 G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB HP SF K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG 
16 25 6  0  0  1   4 7  3  0  0 4  1  0 .240 .321 .360 
PCL would be good for him, he'd get a chance to play.
Code:
Lester Lockett, 3B
A very well-rounded camp for Lester.
 G AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI  R BB HP SF K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG
22 66 23  7  0  2   7 13  7  2  0 5  0  0 .348 .427 .545
Buffalo is where I think he will end up.
Code:
Minnie Minoso, 3B
This guy had the "wow" factor all camp.  Didn't post the best numbers, but was clearly the best player.
 G AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI  R BB HP SF K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG
29 87 27  7  4  1  14 16 12  1  0 5  3  0 .310 .400 .517 
Perfect for the Yankees, but they aren't intergrating.  Whoever he signs with will be very happy for years to come.
Code:
Pat Patterson, 3B
Several good players showed themselves at third, but it is a tight market for thirdbasemen.
 G AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB HP SF K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG
22 49 15  4  1  0   6 9  5  1  0 5  0  0 .306 .382 .429 
Brooklyn needs a stop gap 3B to keep the spot warm for some youngsters, but nothing is a given for Patterson right now.
Code:
Parnell Woods, 3B
It is hard to shine when you share the same position as teammate Minnie Minoso.
 G AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB HP SF  K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG 
24 53 15  3  0  1   4 8  6  1  1 11  0  0 .283 .361 .396 
Still he did enough to get a look-see from one of the usual suspects.
Code:
Willie Wells, SS
Overall, the worst performing postion of the camp.  Wells could be a good back up and pinch runner for some team.
 G  AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI  R BB HP SF  K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG
30 107 34  6  1  1  15 10  6  2  1 15  1  0 .318 .362 .421
Lots of bad teams need a shortstop.  The underperformace of the shortstops was one of the biggest disappointments for scouts.
Code:
Jimmy Crutchfield, OF  
He just gets on base.  It is what he does.  If you've got the thumpers behind him, he'll score 120 runs.
 G  AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI  R BB HP SF  K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG 
30 105 34  6  1  0  15 14 20  0  0 21  5  0 .324 .432 .400 
Phoenix, Oakland and Seattle are in most interested.
Code:
Sam Jethroe, OF
The Jet had a very good camp.  Not the best, but top 5.
 G  AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI  R BB HP SF  K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG 
30 101 25  4  1  7  26 18 13  2  0 32  3  0 .248 .345 .515
I can see his middle of the order booming to end up in Oakland or Baltimore.
Code:
Lennie Pearson, OF
Another one of those just all around solid lines.
 G AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB HP SF  K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG 
29 85 27  4  0  1  13 8 11  2  0 11  0  0 .318 .408 .400
I'm a little surprised there isn't more interest, but Hollywood or Seattle will be there.
Code:
Ted Strong, OF
The low average scares off alot of clubs, but the power numbers are real.
 G  AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI  R BB HP SF  K SB CS  AVG  OBP  SLG 
30 106 25  4  2  3   8 14 15  0  0 16  0  0 .236 .331 .396
Still a decent level of interest, should land into a good spot.
A relative small number of teams (6) are interested in black pitchers. Because of this there could be five or six clubs with half a rotation of black pitchers. Since pitching wins championships, these could be the players who really tip the scales for the team that signs the right two or three pitchers.
Code:
Dan Bankhead, P
G GS  ERA IP   HA  R ER HR BB  K CG SHO 
8  4 3.29 41.0 28 16 15  1 15 48  3   1
Code:
Dave Barnhill, P
G GS  ERA IP   HA  R ER HR BB  K CG SHO 
9  9 1.66 70.2 54 14 13  3 16 65  2   0
Code:
Eugene Bremmer, P
G GS  ERA IP   HA  R ER HR BB  K CG SHO 
9  9 3.30 76.1 61 32 28  2 14 48  5   2
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Ray Brown, P
G GS  ERA IP   HA  R ER HR BB  K CG SHO
8  7 3.41 58.0 48 25 22  0 16 51  1   1
Code:
Max Manning, P
G GS  ERA IP   HA  R ER HR BB  K CG SHO 
9  9 1.67 64.2 46 15 12  7  6 76  0   0
Code:
Don Newcombe, P
G GS  ERA IP   HA  R ER HR BB  K CG SHO 
8  8 5.13 52.2 54 35 30 13  8 41  0   0
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Hilton Smith, P
G GS  ERA IP   HA  R ER HR BB  K CG SHO 
9  9 1.74 67.1 38 13 13  8 22 87  1   0
Code:
Luis Tiant Sr, P
G GS  ERA IP   HA  R ER HR BB  K CG SHO 
7  7 3.38 45.1 38 17 17  5  8 43  0   0
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Update: Spring Training

I just started playing Spring Training games yesterday. I'll have an update on how our created players are doing (hopefully) by this weekend. I have at least 5 more storylines to start for ST; but we should have the regular season starting (hopefully) by the end of the month.
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Spring Training, Part 1 of 4

Well, I couldn't wait to do a player report. It's very exciting to have gotten this close to the actual factual season!
All teams have played 8 games.

Baltimore Athletics
P Winston Lafayette 2 G, 1.1 IP, 4 ER, 1 BB

Wasn't really ready for his first start after thowing an inning in relief a couple days earlier. Has to have a really bad spring not to make team, so let's give him a mulligan for this quarter.

Buffalo Bison
P Achilles Brown GS, 3 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 3 K

Can't really tell where he stands yet. Next update should have a better idea.

OF Graham Walker 2-5, BB, 2 K

Graham needed a couple retirements to have a shot to win a bench spot on the Bison; he didn't get them. Right now, he has to put up numbers too good to ignore. He's maybe 6th on the OF depth chart right now.

Columbus Clippers
P Owen Hunter 1 IP, 2 K

Will he get enough innings to show what he can do?

Hollywood Stars
2B Maximus Meridius 9-22, 2B, 2 HR, 4 RBI, BB, 2 K

With Weintraub gone, Max has to provide power. Good signs early. Starting job is assured.

3B Harley Gathers 3-11, HR, 2 RBI, BB, 3 K

No real competition in camp for Harley; his job to lose.

SS Vince Cressio 4-19, 2B, 2 RBI, 4 K

Vince is struggling a bit, but consider two things: 1) there are only 2 'true' shortstops in camp; and 2) Vince is outperforming by a wide margin over the other guy. I can't say he's is winning the job at this point, but Barkley definately is losing it.

Minneapolis Millers
SS Wally Klukas 1-8, 3 K

On the good side, none of the four shortstops in camp is doing much hitting. If everyone is equally bad, do they try to win with Vets or build with kids? At this point, it is looking like the minors for Klukas.

Phoenix Cowboys
SS Rabbit Donovan 6-27, 2B, RBI, 3 BB, 5 K

Early stumble by Rabbit has made Clem Koshorek the leader in the position battle. It's not over, but Rabbit needs a little streak here.

Portland Beavers
OF Charlie Denton 14-26, 3 2B, 3 RBI, BB, 4 K

Has established himself as the offensive lynchpin of the Beavers.

1B Jimmy Fitzpatrick 4-18, 3 R, 2 HR, 6 RBI, 2 BB

I think Jimmy, as nice as these early numbers are, really needs a good spring. Hal Trosky's number are superficially close enough to Fitzpatrick to have both make the roster. That's just lost AB's for the Beavers.

Sacramento Salons
2B Anton Gogolak 8-23, 5 R, 2 2B, HR, 6 RBI, 2 BB, 2 K

In mid-season form. There is little infield talent, so his job is in no danger.

Salt Lake City Saints
SS Dashiell Spivey 6-11, 5 R, 2B, 3 RBI, 4 BB, 0 K

While Dash is having a superlative spring; the rest of the Saints are sadly lacking. Expect more of the same the whole season.

San Diego Padres
P Rod Lockheart 8.2 IP, 9 H, 6 ER, 4 BB, 8 K

May not open the season as the No. 1 (Bud Byerly has shown No. 1 stuff), he's still in the top of the rotation. Couple more starts should get the kinks out.
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OF Charlie Denton 14-26, 3 2B, 3 RBI, BB, 4 K

Has established himself as the offensive lynchpin of the Beavers.
Woohoo! Go Charlie!

Looking forward to seeing the season start, Seth. Go Beavers!
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