Big time choke

Hammer · 03-26-2006, 04:51 PM

Finishing my season the fore mentioned Richmond team had one of the biggest chokes I've seen in recent history. With 5 games left Richmond held a 4 game lead in the Wild Card race. Richmond went on a 5 game losing streak while San Jose went on a 5 game winning streak to knock Richmond out of contention.

I was pulling a little bit for Richmond, a team that before this season finished in last 6 years in a row.

gmo · 03-26-2006, 06:05 PM

Hard to say they choked when they went 4-6, but I once had a team in my league lose a 5.5 game lead with 10 to play because their pursuer won its last 10 games to close the season and take the division by 1 game.

lencombs · 03-27-2006, 04:00 PM

The 2 biggest pennant leads lost in MLB ever were, (thu 1995) the 1978 Red Sox's 14 1/2-game lead on July 19, (they lost the division on a 1 game playoff to the Yanks) followed by the 1951 Dodgers' 13 1/2-game lead Aug. 11.

Other notable "chokes"
The 1993 San Francisco Giants, who lost a 10-game lead in mid-July to the Atlanta Braves.
The 1942 Brooklyn Dodgers, who went 104-50 under Leo Durocher, but blew a 10-game lead to the St. Louis Cardinals, who won 43 of their final 51.
The 1964 Philadelphia Phillies, who lost a 6 1/2-game lead to St. Louis with 12 remaining.
White Sox almost blew a double digit lead last year but hung on.

Blowing a 4 game lead with 5 to go would be painful, seeing that magic number on 1 for 5 straight days.

phenom · 03-27-2006, 05:04 PM

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Boss · 03-27-2006, 05:14 PM

lencombs, how could you forget the 2004 Yankees debacle? Hehe, that was quite the choke.

lencombs · 03-27-2006, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Boss

lencombs, how could you forget the 2004 Yankees debacle? Hehe, that was quite the choke.

Well I was listing regular season division chokes, the '04 Yanks actually won the division. The ALCS choke to Boston certainly was unprecedented, couple teams were up 3-1 then lost, Angels come to mind, but 3-0, never happened until then.

Hammer · 03-28-2006, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gmo

Hard to say they choked when they went 4-6, but I once had a team in my league lose a 5.5 game lead with 10 to play because their pursuer won its last 10 games to close the season and take the division by 1 game.

Who went 4-6? And you don't think having a 4 game lead with 5 games left to play is considered a choke? All they had to do was go 2-3 in the last 5 and they would have clinched, any time you can play sub .500 ball and clinch and don't come through I think it qualifies as a choke

gmo · 03-28-2006, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer

Who went 4-6? And you don't think having a 4 game lead with 5 games left to play is considered a choke? All they had to do was go 2-3 in the last 5 and they would have clinched, any time you can play sub .500 ball and clinch and don't come through I think it qualifies as a choke

Everything I said was referring to my scenario. Yours was surely a choke.

darkenigma510 · 03-29-2006, 07:58 PM

You forgot the 1987 Blue Jays who blew a 3.5 game lead with 7 games to go. I am still trying to forget that one!

zukes · 03-29-2006, 09:46 PM

You beat me to it, I wasjust going to post he 1987 Blue Jays debacle.

03-26-2006, 04:51 PM	#1
Hammer Major Leagues Join Date: May 2002 Location: Horicon, Wi Posts: 330	Big time choke Finishing my season the fore mentioned Richmond team had one of the biggest chokes I've seen in recent history. With 5 games left Richmond held a 4 game lead in the Wild Card race. Richmond went on a 5 game losing streak while San Jose went on a 5 game winning streak to knock Richmond out of contention. I was pulling a little bit for Richmond, a team that before this season finished in last 6 years in a row.

03-27-2006, 04:00 PM	#3
lencombs All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Eureka, Ca Posts: 535	The 2 biggest pennant leads lost in MLB ever were, (thu 1995) the 1978 Red Sox's 14 1/2-game lead on July 19, (they lost the division on a 1 game playoff to the Yanks) followed by the 1951 Dodgers' 13 1/2-game lead Aug. 11. Other notable "chokes" The 1993 San Francisco Giants, who lost a 10-game lead in mid-July to the Atlanta Braves. The 1942 Brooklyn Dodgers, who went 104-50 under Leo Durocher, but blew a 10-game lead to the St. Louis Cardinals, who won 43 of their final 51. The 1964 Philadelphia Phillies, who lost a 6 1/2-game lead to St. Louis with 12 remaining. White Sox almost blew a double digit lead last year but hung on. Blowing a 4 game lead with 5 to go would be painful, seeing that magic number on 1 for 5 straight days. __________________ "A passion for statistics is the earmark of a literate people." - Paul Fisher "Baseball isn't statistics. Baseball is (Joe) DiMaggio rounding second." - Jimmy Cannon

03-27-2006, 05:04 PM	#4
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,763	Ping: LivnLegend __________________ reported

03-26-2006, 06:05 PM	#2
gmo Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 3,390	Hard to say they choked when they went 4-6, but I once had a team in my league lose a 5.5 game lead with 10 to play because their pursuer won its last 10 games to close the season and take the division by 1 game.

03-27-2006, 05:14 PM	#5
Boss Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 143	lencombs, how could you forget the 2004 Yankees debacle? Hehe, that was quite the choke.

03-29-2006, 07:58 PM	#9
darkenigma510 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Wild West Posts: 1,353	You forgot the 1987 Blue Jays who blew a 3.5 game lead with 7 games to go. I am still trying to forget that one!

03-29-2006, 09:46 PM	#10
zukes All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London, Ont. Canada Posts: 1,106	You beat me to it, I wasjust going to post he 1987 Blue Jays debacle.