New York Yankees 2005-2006 Off Season Thread

CommishJoe · 10-21-2005, 01:14 PM

First, Yankee haters, please keep your crap out of this thread. You've got plenty of other places to spew that stuff. Keep it out of here.

Now that Mazzone went to the Orioles, who do you think they will sign to be the pitching coach? I've been hearing a lot about Guidry, but has he ever been a pitching coach? I also hear he doesn't want to leave his LA home.

Other rumors have been Lee Mazzilli for bench coach and Larry Bowa for 3rd base coach. If Bowa does come on, I would hope Sojo stays with the organization in some capacity.

QuestGAV · 10-21-2005, 01:43 PM

I don't see the logic of adding Larry Bowa. That's just way too combustible of a personality to add to a clubhouse that Torre is fanatical about keeping order in. Why add that to the mix if he's not going to give you any sort of tangible benefit?

Melo · 10-21-2005, 04:07 PM

Sounds like Bowa was a little surprised by the interest, too. I'm betting Kerrigan gets to be PC.

jaxmagicman · 10-21-2005, 04:10 PM

I say the Yankees number 1 need is to get rid of their owner.

Jason · 10-21-2005, 04:14 PM

Depends on if the clubhouse needs a little spark of life and fire. Then Bowa's the man for that.

Karros270 · 10-21-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale And Eli's Dad

Depends on if the clubhouse needs a little spark of life and fire.

Are you suggesting they trade for David Eckstein?

QuestGAV · 10-21-2005, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Karros270

Are you suggesting they trade for David Eckstein?

How much clutchness at SS can one team have?

Green & Gold Heart · 10-21-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by QuestGAV

How much clutchness at SS can one team have?

You've seen Eckstein throw. He should be playing second. If they had the little pest at second, they could move Cano to center.

Jason · 10-21-2005, 04:56 PM

Hey! Get off Eckstein's back!

That's because most of us are taller than him.

Seriously...I like Larry Bowa. I think he would be a spark to any team that brings him in if the players aren't thin-skinned crybabies.

jaxmagicman · 10-21-2005, 04:57 PM

How much spark can a bench coach add?

QuestGAV · 10-21-2005, 05:10 PM

All I can think of is that Torre feels like he needs a hatchet man. Obviously it's not part of Torre's makeup to start ripping into people and throwing tables, but maybe he's willing to have Bowa do it for him.

Jason · 10-21-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by QuestGAV

All I can think of is that Torre feels like he needs a hatchet man. Obviously it's not part of Torre's makeup to start ripping into people and throwing tables, but maybe he's willing to have Bowa do it for him.

If there's something you can count on from Larry Bowa...it's that.

QuestGAV · 10-21-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale And Eli's Dad

If there's something you can count on from Larry Bowa...it's that.

Yeah but is Torre willing to let someone do that in his clubhouse or would he rather have it on an even keel?

TotalEnd98 · 10-22-2005, 08:59 PM

Somebody call up the Padres and see if they're still willing to send us Nady for Womack.

mlyons · 10-22-2005, 09:18 PM

I think the biggest offseason question is going to be what the Yankees plan to do with seven starting pitchers. Leiter and Brown are obviously gone, and Johnson and Mussina have two of the spots locked down, but only three of the bunch of Pavano, Wright, Wang, Chacon, and Small (assuming they re-sign him) can start out in the rotation. Small looks like he'd lose out on the starter role, simply because they know he'll work out of the bullpen, but none of the other four has ever done anything but start. Trades don't look like a good solution, since Pavano and Wright look untradeable right now, and it looks to be a big mistake to trade Chacon or Wang. Whoever the new pitching coach ends up being, he's going to have a thorny dilemma to try to solve right off the bat.

TotalEnd98 · 10-22-2005, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyons

I think the biggest offseason question is going to be what the Yankees plan to do with seven starting pitchers. Leiter and Brown are obviously gone, and Johnson and Mussina have two of the spots locked down, but only three of the bunch of Pavano, Wright, Wang, Chacon, and Small (assuming they re-sign him) can start out in the rotation. Small looks like he'd lose out on the starter role, simply because they know he'll work out of the bullpen, but none of the other four has ever done anything but start. Trades don't look like a good solution, since Pavano and Wright look untradeable right now, and it looks to be a big mistake to trade Chacon or Wang. Whoever the new pitching coach ends up being, he's going to have a thorny dilemma to try to solve right off the bat.

Wright will in all likelihood be in the pen if he isn't traded.

Trading Chacon, while not the greatest idea in the world, may not be a bad one, either. Everyone's thinking "it was just pitching in Coors that hurt him." He will never be worth any more than he is right now, and if he can land us a good CF (by which I mean "not Juan Pierre or Torii Hunter") from a team that overvalues him, I wouldn't be opposed to the move.

rem · 10-22-2005, 09:31 PM

Chacon and Wright have both pitched out of the pen, but neither did it well. Chacon deserves to be in the rotation; Wright can pitch out of the pen. Assuming Wright himself can stay healthy and effective, I'm sure there will be plenty of chances to fill-in for the regulars.

I don't think the Yanks will re-sign Small; I think he'll end up somewhere like Kansas City, Cincy, or Tampa.

I know the Yanks have been trying to get starting pitchers for awhile, but I think they'd be wise to at least look at picking up someone new.

Wasn't there a Kevin Brown for Andruw Jones trade rumored at some point? It's too bad that one didn't go down.

mlyons · 10-22-2005, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TotalEnd98

Wright will in all likelihood be in the pen if he isn't traded.

Trading Chacon, while not the greatest idea in the world, may not be a bad one, either. Everyone's thinking "it was just pitching in Coors that hurt him." He will never be worth any more than he is right now, and if he can land us a good CF (by which I mean "not Juan Pierre or Torii Hunter") from a team that overvalues him, I wouldn't be opposed to the move.

I wouldn't be opposed to trading Chacon if other teams made offers for him, but I think the minute word gets around that the Yankees are shopping him, his value will plummet. If the Yankees put out the word that they want to move him, they'd be extraordinarily lucky to get a Torii Hunter type in return, because everyone's going to be looking to salary-dump.

rem · 10-22-2005, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TotalEnd98

if he can land us a good CF (by which I mean "not Juan Pierre or Torii Hunter")

I don't think the Marlins or Twins would make that trade, so I wouldn't get your hopes up.

TotalEnd98 · 10-22-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by remangiii

I don't think the Marlins or Twins would make that trade, so I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Since I don't want them to make that trade, I don't see your point.

10-21-2005, 01:14 PM	#1
CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	New York Yankees 2005-2006 Off Season Thread First, Yankee haters, please keep your crap out of this thread. You've got plenty of other places to spew that stuff. Keep it out of here. Now that Mazzone went to the Orioles, who do you think they will sign to be the pitching coach? I've been hearing a lot about Guidry, but has he ever been a pitching coach? I also hear he doesn't want to leave his LA home. Other rumors have been Lee Mazzilli for bench coach and Larry Bowa for 3rd base coach. If Bowa does come on, I would hope Sojo stays with the organization in some capacity. __________________ Joe Success isn’t owned. It’s leased. And rent is due every day.

10-21-2005, 04:10 PM	#4
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jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	How much spark can a bench coach add? __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

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10-22-2005, 09:18 PM	#15
mlyons Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,725	I think the biggest offseason question is going to be what the Yankees plan to do with seven starting pitchers. Leiter and Brown are obviously gone, and Johnson and Mussina have two of the spots locked down, but only three of the bunch of Pavano, Wright, Wang, Chacon, and Small (assuming they re-sign him) can start out in the rotation. Small looks like he'd lose out on the starter role, simply because they know he'll work out of the bullpen, but none of the other four has ever done anything but start. Trades don't look like a good solution, since Pavano and Wright look untradeable right now, and it looks to be a big mistake to trade Chacon or Wang. Whoever the new pitching coach ends up being, he's going to have a thorny dilemma to try to solve right off the bat. __________________ Things can always be worse.

10-21-2005, 01:43 PM	#2
QuestGAV Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,008	I don't see the logic of adding Larry Bowa. That's just way too combustible of a personality to add to a clubhouse that Torre is fanatical about keeping order in. Why add that to the mix if he's not going to give you any sort of tangible benefit?

10-21-2005, 04:07 PM	#3
Melo All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Where the baned reside Posts: 1,428	Sounds like Bowa was a little surprised by the interest, too. I'm betting Kerrigan gets to be PC.

10-21-2005, 04:14 PM	#5
Jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,845	Depends on if the clubhouse needs a little spark of life and fire. Then Bowa's the man for that.

10-21-2005, 04:56 PM	#9
Jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,845	Hey! Get off Eckstein's back! That's because most of us are taller than him. Seriously...I like Larry Bowa. I think he would be a spark to any team that brings him in if the players aren't thin-skinned crybabies.

10-21-2005, 05:10 PM	#11
QuestGAV Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,008	All I can think of is that Torre feels like he needs a hatchet man. Obviously it's not part of Torre's makeup to start ripping into people and throwing tables, but maybe he's willing to have Bowa do it for him.

10-22-2005, 09:31 PM	#17
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	Chacon and Wright have both pitched out of the pen, but neither did it well. Chacon deserves to be in the rotation; Wright can pitch out of the pen. Assuming Wright himself can stay healthy and effective, I'm sure there will be plenty of chances to fill-in for the regulars. I don't think the Yanks will re-sign Small; I think he'll end up somewhere like Kansas City, Cincy, or Tampa. I know the Yanks have been trying to get starting pitchers for awhile, but I think they'd be wise to at least look at picking up someone new. Wasn't there a Kevin Brown for Andruw Jones trade rumored at some point? It's too bad that one didn't go down. __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0 Last edited by rem; 10-22-2005 at 09:33 PM.