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""No more than four players who are 23 or older; no more than three players on the active list can have four or more years of prior service."" That is an age limit (no more than 4 players over 23). I appreciate that it might be difficult to code rules like that though (well, more accurately it would be difficult to get eh AI to use them correctly without creating Borkholder type bugs). |
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Fair enough. It would be cool to eventually be able to have age limits as well (if anything so people can do historical minor leagues with realistic rules).
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That said, I've maintained for awhile now that a purely service time-based system is a perfectly reasonable approach and sufficiently based in reality. (In past years the minors used to have rosters which divided players into three categories: rookies, regulars, and veterans, with each category determined by service time. Clubs were required to carry a minimum number of rookies and could carry a maximum number of veterans; after that, it was up to the club.) |
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According to the 2008 Major League Rules, players in the DSL and VSL are limited to a maximum of four years of service [MLR 51(b)(1)(E)]. However, those years of service, if any, are disregarded when they move to a U.S.-based minor league [MLR 51(b)(1)].
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Source: Minor League Transactions Glossary - Chicago Cubs Online
"Short-Season Class-A Clubs – 30 players (no more than 25 players may be used in a single game) Effective on July 1, the active list must include at least ten (10) pitchers, no more than four (4) players may be 23 years old or older and no more than three (3) players may have four (4) or more years of minor league service time. Advanced Rookie Clubs – 35 players (no more than 30 players may be used in a single game) Effective on July 1, the active list must include at least 10 pitchers, no more than 12 players may be 21 years or older, no more than two (2) players may be 23 years or older, no player may have more than two (2) years as a professional, and no player may have three (3) of more years of minor league service time. Rookie Clubs – 35 players (no more than 30 players may be used in a single game) Effective on July 1, the active list must include at least 10 pitchers, no more than eight (8) players may be 20 years old or older, including two (2) drafted players and four (4) undrafted players how are at least 21 years old and no player may have more than two (2) years of minor league service time."
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I sure hope the new service limits won't cause too many problems and that it does, indeed, work as an age-limit. In any event, this is my second public gripe and I hope that the wrong impression is not taken from me. This is a great game and I highly recommend it. It is the best game I have ever enjoyed. My hat is off to you and to your skill as a business owner. Well done on all accounts. So...I apologize if I have been coming across as critical lately. No harm intended. Trust me, I do more good for OOTP and its success than I do bad.
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A 30-year-old will have had too many seasons of service to be eligible for either Short A or Rookie ball unless he played his first season at age 27 (for the former) and age 28 (for the latter). A debut in professional ball at age 27 or 28 doesn't seem very likely.
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I just thought of a solution.... What if I had a "Retire Aged Minor Leaguers" button? This button will bring up a menu asking an age limit and a drop down for level. Once I select that OOTP will retire all of those players for me. Basically, instead of coding the AI around an artificial age-limit just let me mass-retire anyone at SA or Rookie below an age I set. That's what I do every 2 weeks or so of game time anyway. I simply retire them one at a time if they are over my limt. The button could be on the setting menu under functions.
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That button could indeed be handy, I'm curious of how you approach retiring the players who are too old currently. Wouldn't a very fast way would be to do a custom 'filter' and just go to the 'show all players' and then put: -league level is rookie league and -age is at least 27 Turn on commissioner mode then select all and retire those players, then do: -league level is short season A and -age is at least 28 You could even save the screens as bookmarks and then switch to your saved filter and then retire all and it's done quick. Maybe your already doing something like this, or something even faster, but it doesn't seem that bad. I don't know Last edited by HawkyTom; 03-05-2014 at 09:09 PM. |
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Thanks you two. Yup, I was going through each team's transaction page and retiring one at a time.
I can't believe I overlooked that. I'm a total schmuck. I withdraw my complaint.
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While we're talking about minors, one big issue that I see in every game is that if (minor league players / 25) is greater than (minor league teams), the extras get dumped into a single rookie league team instead of having every minor league team get extra players.
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I'm pretty sure that in RL only the rookie leagues have no roster size limit. They probably do have limits of some kind with regard to size though.
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