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Old 07-05-2003, 08:17 PM   #1
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oh man. Note to parents, keep your kiddies locked up

See what happens when you let immature kiddies in your league then remove them for their immature actions. This is an actual conversation between the beloved asamford and Kevin Williams (aka virtualMLB and virtualNCAA - yes the guy who runs the 'great' NCAA college league) after he was removed for immaturity after COUNTLESS warnings to him and complaints from other GM's spanning many seasons of simming.

I post this for 3 reasons 1) to show the community his threats if anything DOES happen to the NAHHBL site 2) to warn other commishes of this person and 3) to warn those considering joining his leagues about the type of person he really is.


VirtualMLB (6:03:08 PM): whats up

budsamford23 (6:03:16 PM): hey, what's happenin

VirtualMLB (6:03:23 PM): nm

VirtualMLB (6:03:30 PM): plotting my evil reign

budsamford23 (6:03:47 PM): your evil reign?

VirtualMLB (6:04:00 PM): yea

budsamford23 (6:04:03 PM): what's that?

VirtualMLB (6:04:10 PM): im going to mess with nahhbl

budsamford23 (6:04:42 PM): why bother? i thought you didn't care that you got booted cause the league is going to hell.

VirtualMLB (6:05:19 PM): certain people i plan on removing from the league budsamford23

(6:05:44 PM): how do you plan on doing that? i would think it
would be difficult.

VirtualMLB (6:06:14 PM): not at all

budsamford23 (6:06:48 PM): really?

VirtualMLB (6:06:56 PM): ill show you on tomorrows sim

budsamford23 (6:08:00 PM): hmmmm, well i'm curious as to what you are thinking about doing, but i guess i'll find out tomorrow.

VirtualMLB (6:08:30 PM): ive got some special information regarding the ownership of this site

budsamford23 (6:08:45 PM): the NAHHBL site?

VirtualMLB (6:09:02 PM): sorry, i mean certain teams

VirtualMLB (6:09:06 PM): i have a list

budsamford23 (6:09:20 PM): hmmm, well i'm confused

VirtualMLB (6:09:43 PM): i cant tell you, youll most likely tell chris if i revel my plan reveal

budsamford23 (6:11:11 PM): i think for your own sake you should just let it go and find another league to have some fun in, it seems like you're just bitter about being kicked out when you said yourself "you didn't care", but I know you care cause you liked your team so much. But either way, it's up to you.

VirtualMLB (6:11:34 PM): im going to delete the nahhbl site

budsamford23 (6:12:11 PM): i'm sure chris has a backup, that probably wouldn't accomplish much. what good would that do?

VirtualMLB (6:12:31 PM): end the league

budsamford23 (6:13:06 PM): well if he has a backup, he'll just restore the site and continue on.

VirtualMLB (6:13:18 PM): not if he doesnt have the extension

VirtualMLB (6:13:22 PM): the nahhbl one

VirtualMLB (6:13:29 PM): tomorrow will be the final nahhbl sim

VirtualMLB (6:14:29 PM): so whats up?

budsamford23 (6:14:32 PM): i'll be curious to see if you're actually able to pull it off. can't you get into trouble for that with your IP or anything?

VirtualMLB (6:14:44 PM): not sure

VirtualMLB (6:20:19 PM): i hate a lot of the people in this league

VirtualMLB (6:20:28 PM): its a revenge factor
VirtualMLB signed off at 6:24:06 PM.



This is a conversation with between me and him on AIM earlier this afternoon:

VirtualMLB: you made the wrong choice
VirtualMLB: just watch buddy
VirtualMLB: your league is going to slip through your fingers if you dont start acting smart
Big Phesta: lol
VirtualMLB: just keep laughing
Big Phesta: Please Kevin. Spare my league from your allmighty wrath. Please. I beg of you allmighty Kevin. You are the man and I am a mere peon begging for your mercy.
VirtualMLB: it all begins next week
VirtualMLB: just watch
VirtualMLB: just watch in the coming weeks
VirtualMLB: this wont take a day or anything
VirtualMLB: but i intend on carrying out the plan
Big Phesta: do it now then bud
Big Phesta: c'mon



Again. I don't want to turn this into a flame war, but people in the community (he claims a few hundred in his NCAA league) have a right to know who they're dealing with and if anything DOES happen to my site (which I highly doubt) then we can all know in advance whodoneit.

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Old 07-05-2003, 08:32 PM   #2
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Ok, ok, took the joke to far happy 4th
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Old 07-05-2003, 08:35 PM   #3
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Today, rejoin NAHHBL.

Tomorrow, NAHHBL disappears due to the vengence of a jilted owner.

That would be just my luck.
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Old 07-05-2003, 08:38 PM   #4
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Ok, ok, took the joke to far happy 4th
Sure you did..............ooops, did I say that?

Please, Kevin, spare me your fury!
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Old 07-05-2003, 08:52 PM   #5
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between the beloved asamford

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Old 07-05-2003, 08:58 PM   #6
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wow, he asked me to do some logos for him too. If he's really like this, i dont want to help him.
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Old 07-05-2003, 09:12 PM   #7
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Fascinating....

That is the funniest joke I've ever read, heard or seen!!!

...well, actually...not really.
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Old 07-05-2003, 09:36 PM   #8
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is it just me or am I always causing problems?
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Old 07-05-2003, 10:42 PM   #9
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Im ascared...big bad vMLB gonna hurt us!!!
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Old 07-05-2003, 10:50 PM   #10
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I would like to confirm that vrMLB (virtual reality major league baseball) is in no way associated with vMLB
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Old 07-05-2003, 11:45 PM   #11
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whats this ncaa league u guys are all talking about?
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Old 07-05-2003, 11:51 PM   #12
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People will always get in trouble when they least expect it. "nature of the beast"
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Old 07-06-2003, 12:05 AM   #13
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And here I thought he matured.

He's been doing this crap for a *long* time. I have a conversation with him from a long time ago that I kept to give JWay, back when JWay was running a league. He'd insult me, and then say it was his brother or something and try to get me to talk to him. I'd get IMs from several different names, just on the off-chance that I wouldn't pay attention and accidentally reply. Very immature.

He comes from another hobby I'm in. His name isn't even Kevin Williams...he uses a pen name. I thought he matured once he began the vNCAA...I was in the league (UConn...won the championship), but left after my AOL account died and I wasn't getting emails very frequently. I couldn't tell if it was just how it was running or if he didn't change my email address, which I asked him to do numerous times before the account was reliquished.

Anyway, the only thing I'm surprised about is that this didn't happen sooner.

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Old 07-06-2003, 01:19 AM   #14
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Ok, ok, took the joke to far happy 4th
You're 3 months and 3 days late for Aptil 1st Kev... and the joke is on you. I feel proud to have actually contributed to the NAHHBL in someway after 8+ seasons of ownership. More wacky vMLB fun can be found here.

And fill out an app while your in the neighborhood eh? Phesta still needs to get the waitinglist back to it's former glory I'm sure.
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Old 07-06-2003, 01:21 AM   #15
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wow, he asked me to do some logos for him too. If he's really like this, i dont want to help him.
He is... he really... really is.
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Old 07-06-2003, 02:13 AM   #16
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Well, I'm not one for one word posts, but in this case, I dont see any other choice....

ugh
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Old 07-06-2003, 11:46 AM   #17
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yes. My thoughts exactly. For the record, one person does not reflect the NAHHBL. We are NOW a group of very mature GM's out to have a good time. Too bad there's always one who slips through the cracks.
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Old 07-06-2003, 12:48 PM   #18
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yes. My thoughts exactly. For the record, one person does not reflect the NAHHBL. We are NOW a group of very mature GM's out to have a good time.
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We are NOW a group of very mature GM's out to have a good time + Draft Dodger
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Old 07-06-2003, 03:48 PM   #20
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He totally bailed on his vMLB league as well. He was the Commish and quit running the league with nary a word to the owners via email or mboard and didn't even finish the current playoffs, just went on to vNCAA...
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