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Old 03-06-2003, 07:22 PM   #81
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Too bad OOTP5 didn't come with a league tracker...
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Old 03-06-2003, 07:24 PM   #82
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Ding Ding Ding....Old Man wins a prize. I was trying to find it in my old e-mails but couldn't....knew it was close.


And to make a point, I am not making this a "personal" attack. I just want people to be aware of the potential for disaster in this league.
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Old 03-06-2003, 07:31 PM   #83
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Believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see.

I have no affiliation with "JBLaze"

This league is gonna rock guys, don't let what people tell you affect your judgements.

One statement says it all:

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Old 03-06-2003, 07:32 PM   #84
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Here's more proof

Here's another...
-This one really urks me because this is before I joined. Notice he says his league shut down and is starting up fresh. Do I here an echo?
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Old 03-06-2003, 07:44 PM   #85
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This being the first few lines from jblaze's league constitution (from gpm22's link) is pretty darn funny in retrospect:

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The Commissioner assumes the duties of scheduling games, simming the games, and controlling the league basically. He assign's owners to teams, and will kick any owner out if any suspician has floated about.
That's what I like about jblaze, he does not let any suspicion float about!
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Old 03-06-2003, 07:49 PM   #86
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Steve,
Can you do an IP check. This kid has multiple names as well as multiple AIM screennames and email addresses posted all over the boards. Its a shame that he could actually be getting eLicenses from unsuspecting consumers.
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Old 03-06-2003, 08:20 PM   #87
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Here's another...
-This one really urks me because this is before I joined. Notice he says his league shut down and is starting up fresh. Do I here an echo?
I don't get it... he said he had the REAL WSBL and someone ( ) should change their league name. Was there a deleted post or something?
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Old 03-06-2003, 08:52 PM   #88
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They changed their league name, but that wasn't the point i was trying to make. The email address he used was pjp2003...identical to "And1 BBaller"...this is not just a coincidence.
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Old 03-06-2003, 08:58 PM   #89
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They changed their league name, but that wasn't the point i was trying to make. The email address he used was pjp2003...identical to "And1 BBaller"...this is not just a coincidence.
Yeah, I already knew about the email thing, that's why I mentioned the league name thing. Rereading my post, I see why you thought I was looking at the wrong info.
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Old 03-06-2003, 09:12 PM   #90
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I would like to invite Jblaze into the conversation to see what he has to say about this...

The floor is yours Jblaze............
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Old 03-06-2003, 10:38 PM   #91
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Arizona
Florida
Tampa Bay
Montreal

those are the available teams.
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Old 03-07-2003, 12:44 AM   #92
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From the "No publicity is bad publicity" department:
I guess people are not deterred from joining a league getting this much word of mouth, positive or negative!
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Whoa, this is getting complicated! Somebody better call Encyclopedia Brown, I'm sure he can get to the bottom of it.
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Old 03-07-2003, 04:07 AM   #94
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And if you're new to this whole thing, why would you take a comparison to jblaze as a slap in the face? You shouldn't know him from anyone else if you're new. I would think anyways.
Game. Set. Match.

Responding to the person who asked about the IP logs: yes, the moderators can see them, but no, they probably won't "officially" tell us anything about what they find.
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What if he really isn't Jblaze. Just a thought....
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What if he really isn't Jblaze. Just a thought....
Looking for defeat??
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Old 03-07-2003, 08:11 AM   #97
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Whoa, this is getting complicated! Somebody better call Encyclopedia Brown, I'm sure he can get to the bottom of it.
Did somebody call?

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Old 03-07-2003, 10:28 AM   #98
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Originally posted by SanDiegoPadres19
Heyy r thee Padres available?

If they r takin i would luv thee Giants, Dodgers, D'Backs, Rangers, Mets or White Sox! THanks!
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Old 03-07-2003, 10:48 AM   #99
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Responding to the person who asked about the IP logs: yes, the moderators can see them, but no, they probably won't "officially" tell us anything about what they find.
Yes I can see the IP Logs, I can even see a handy list of every IP and server you've ever used on the board (a good way to cross reference aliases ).

You are also correct that our policy is to avoid being the board policy and to publicly "out" aliases barring extenuating circumstances. There are lots of people in this forum that have more than one alias, it wouldn't be fair to reveal one, without revealing the others and quite frankly I don't have the time to double check and cross reference everyone of our 4750 or so members to come up with a partially complete list of aliases (or suspected aliases). If there is something that warrants "outing" an alias publicly it will be done, but only under extenuating circumstances.

In this case the thread's starter is not technically doing anything wrong... he's trying to start a league. But the other contributors are not doing anything wrong in pointing out inconsistences in his story, and/or similarities to other members that may have a bit of a checkered past. That said, should this thread go too far off topic it will be moved or closed (like other threads in this forum).

For all prospective owners you need to be VERY cautious when turning over your Order IDs, if you have reason not to trust the commish then you should hold onto your ID until he builds that trust. In fact if you can not trust the commish, then you really should not join the league. Commishes who've caused problems in the past may not even get approved to join the OOTP server.

For all prospective commishes. If you really have no online league experience then I would STRONGLY advise you to actually participate in a league as an owner before trying to commish your first league. You are much more likely to be successful after you have some experience and an understanding of how online leagues function, and what does and does not work in keeping a league together.
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Old 03-07-2003, 10:52 AM   #100
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Very well written and thought out Scott.
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