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Old 07-25-2013, 11:42 PM   #81
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Class of 2061: Veterans Committee Selection: Bunning

At the age of 73 years 110 days, Jim Bunning becomes the oldest pitcher to enter the HOF. The 33 years between retirement and induction are also the most for a pitcher. Only John McGraw had a longer wait and entered at an older age.

Bunning was chosen by the Cubs with the 11th overall pick in the 2009 draft.

He was 11-15, combined, in his first two seasons as a pro, with an OOTP over 4.00 each season. The Cubs stuck him in the bullpen to be their closer. There he matured and flourished in 2012. He saved 22 games and struck out 114 men in 87 1/3 IP while walking only 26 and posting an OOTP ERA of 1.44 for an npa ERA+ of 259.

The Cubs decided to put him back in the rotation in 2013. The game he found in the pen did not leave him as a starter. He posted 14 wins vs 6 losses and tossed 200 IP for the first time. He would throw at least 200 innings in each of the next 10 years, also.

In 2014, he went 3-1 in 5 post season starts. In the Fall Classic, it was the Series of the Impossible as his Cubs faced the Red Sox. There was no joy in Wrigleyville as the Beantowners to the crown in what would be Bunning's only WS. Bunning pitched in two postseasons with the Red Sox at the end of his career, but he had to watch the final round of the play-offs at home.

He enters the HOF tied for 20th place on the all time win list with Willie McGill. Bunning's career mark of 221-156 places him 84th on the win% list with a .586 mark. He also had 23 career saves.

Bunning struck out 3539 men (19th, one slot behind McGill) in 3512 IP )2-th) in his career that lasted through the 2028 season.

Bunning had many strong seasons, but none stick out as clearly being his best. In 2016, in his first year as a Rockie, he went 18-11 with a 3.41 OOTP ERA (npa ERA+ 122) and struck out a career high 286 batters.

Bunning appeared in one All Star Game. His career OOTP ERA of 3.88 is good for a npa ERA+ of 114.

Black Ink: 9 (28)
Gray Ink: 137 (216)
HOFm: 87.7 (98)
HOFs: 41 (42)

Gorilla Composite: 2.2 (3.2)

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Class of 2061 VBBWAA Selections: Burgess, Lajoie

Smokey Burgess becomes only the 3rd catcher inducted, thus far (Javy Lopez, Joe Torre).

Burgess was selected by the Astros with the 16th overall pick in the 2026 draft. He played through the 2048 season.

Burgess fought through many injuries in his career, but still managed to accumulate 2176 hits (70th, 1 spot behind Ron Cey), 428 doubles (74th), 34 triples, and 294 HR while slashing 305/354/498 for a npa OPS+ of 129.

He only played 100 games in a season 11 times, but in 7 of those seasons he batted over .300.

His best season at the plate came in 2036 when he collected a career high (matched in 1940) 161 hits in 478 AB with 22 HR for a slash line of 337/393/567 for a npa OPS+ of 163.

Burgess played in 8 post seasons and carried a .360 BA with 13 HR in 200 AB. It was not until his final season in 2048 when, as a Cleveland Indian, did he win a championship. He only had one PA in that post season, but delivered a base hit in that opportunity. He is the first player inducted into the HOF from that team.

Burgess collected 1209 RBI in his career and scored 1042 times.

A 6 time All Star, Burgess enters the converted tractor shed 4 days after his 54th birthday.

Burgess is the second player to be inducted with zero Black Ink (Jackie Robinson).

Burgess ranks third in career games caught and games started at catcher (1822 and 1788).

Black Ink: 0 (0)
Gray Ink: 40 (4)
HOFm: 149.5 (46)
HOFs: 56 (34)

Gorilla Composite: 2.4 (1.0)

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Nap Lajoie is the third player entering the HOF as a 2Bman (Jackie Robinson, Jimmy Rollins). Lajoie cruises into the shrine on his first ballot, the 11th player since the Inaugural Class to do so.

Like Burgess, Lajoie was also a 16th overall selection. He was taken in the 2033 draft by the Athletics.

Lajoie batted .300 in 102 games his rookie 2034 season. In his next three season, he only played a total of 215 games, but batted between .300 and .362 in each of those years.

When he was healthy, and stayed healthy, he was one of the best players in the game. In 2040 he was honored as the league MVP as he cracked 201 hits, 34 HR, 102 RBI, and scored 112 times while slashing 350/375/608 for a npa OPS+ of 165. This was his first of six 200 hit seasons and his first batting title.

From 2040-2043 he collected over 200 hits and led the league in hits each season. He won the batting title 3 of those four years.

From 2039 through 2041 he hit over 30 HR each season.

He won three consecutive batting titles from 2042 through 2044, and won his 5th crown in 2046.

His singularly most amazing feat came in 2049. At the age of 35, he ripped a league record 73 doubles on 215 hits. The second most doubles in a season is 63.

Lajoie is also the single season record holder for singles with 193 in 2043.

When he retired after the 2055 season he had career totals of 3205 hits (5th, 10 hits behind Orlando Cepeda), 715 doubles (4th between George Davis and Hal Chase), 75 triples (15th, 1 behind Ed Konetchy), and 296 HR.

Lajoie scored 1544 runs (13th, between Mickey Mantle and Vic Saier) and drove in 1447 (41st) while posting a slash line of 332/366/513 for a npa OPS+ of 134.

His career BA ranks him 13th.

Lajoie was named to 8 AS teams and picked up one GG at 2B.

Black Ink: 46 (76)
Gray Ink: 181 (266)
HOFm: 262.5 (264)
HOFs: 72 (66)

Gorilla Composite: 6.2 (7.7)

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Nap Lajoie has been inducted into all three OOTP HOF.

Jim Bunning and Smokey Burgess both enter the OOTP HOF for the first time.

Bunning and Lajoie represent the 23rd and 24th RL HOFer entry into this HOF. There have been 72 inductees, thus far.
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Class of 2062 Veterans Committee Selection: Coleman

The time Jim Bunning spent as oldest pitcher to be inducted lasted just one year. John McGraw, though still the oldest member of the Hall, is no longer the oldest player to give an induction speech. That honor now belongs to 78 year-old Percy Coleman.

For a guy that made only 6 starts in RL, Coleman was treated nicely by the player development dice and wound up logging 24 years of big league service.

Coleman was taken in the 9th rd of the Inaugural Draft back in 2004 by the Angels. He retired following the 2027 season with a record of 244 wins, 182 losses, and a pair of saves. He posted a career OOTP ERA of 3.67 for an npa ERA+ of 129.

No system is perfect. The system in use that is the basis for these inductions works from the Ink Standards and the HOFm/s formula developed by Bill James.

Coleman's value was incredibly understated by these numbers. That is why there is a Veterans Committee, in the first place, to honor players who, for one reason or another, slipped past the voters.

Percy Coleman enters the HOF as the 8th winningest pitcher in league history (between Rube Waddell and CC Sabathia). Hi 3156 career strikouts rank him 33rd all-time. Coleman is 10th on the career WAR list. With the players who were voted in, this year, no player ranks higher on either the win list or the WAR list that is not already inducted.

Coleman got to 244 wins pretty much 12, 13, and 14 wins at a time.

12 times he won between 10 and 14 games in a season. In those 12 seasons, he was only below .500 once, and is 50 games over .500 for those 12 years. He did not play for good teams either.

Only 3 times in 24 years did Coleman reach the post season, and none of those teams made it to the WS.

In 2010 and 2011, Coleman won 16 games in each season. Injuries limited him to 7 starts in 2012, but he again won 16 in 2013.

Though Coleman struck out over 3000 men, he was not a strikeout pitcher, in comparison to others in the HOF. He struck out 200 men only 3 times and his career high was 223 in 2011. Those three 200 K years also happen to be his 3 16 game win seasons.

Coleman is technically a floor breaker. He has a Gorilla Composite under a 2, but he is the best player entered in this, or either of the previous HOF with a GC below the 2 line.

As I looked over his career, his numbers reminded me of Jamie Moyer's BBREF page. When I looked at Moyer's page, I was amazed at how close Coleman's career here and Moyer's RL career are.

I cam to this conclusion, then I had to do a double take when I noticed that Coleman's 10 career shutouts is the same number as Moyer, IRL.

Coleman played in 3 AS games.

The numbers in parentheses that follow are those from Jamie Moyer's RL career, for comparison:

Black Ink: 4 (3)
Gray Ink: 97 (106)
HOFm: 66.5 (56)
HOFs: 43 (39)

Gorilla Composite: 1.8 (1.7)

I think Jamie Moyer will get in the RL HOF, but like Coleman, it will come as a Vet Committee selection.

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Class of 2062 VBBWAA Selections, Part1: Vance, O'Rourke, Rice

4 pitchers and 3 hitters get the call from the Hall, this year. This pulls up the pitcher/hitter ration to 23:56. The anticipated ratio is about 1:2.

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Dazzy Vance was selected by the Blue Jays with the top pick in the 2026 draft. That means he made his ML debut the same season that Percy Coleman was pitching in his last.

Dazzy Vance is a player that I keep forgetting is in the RL HOF. I don't know why I have this block in memory for him. Perhaps with this entry it will stick with me. He had a dominant run in the 1920s that earned him his real life enshrinement. Here, he dominated in the 2030s.

From 2031 through 2040 Vance won 139 games while dropping 65. He twice led the league in wins, including a 25-7 2040 season, which is one win shy of the all time single season record.

6 times he led the league in Ks, including 414 in his 25 win 2040 season, which was his second of two career Cy Young Award seasons.

In 1937 he won his other CYA and also won the Triple Crown as he posted a line of 20-8, 2.45 (npa ERA+ 175) and a career high 477 strikeouts in 240 1/3 IP. This was his second consecutive 400 strikeout season, and the most by any pitcher in a season in league history. His K/9 rate of 16.490 ties him with Rube Waddell's 2027 season as the best in league history.

Vance posted a cool looking 222 wins (t-18th Tim Keefe, one more than Jim Bunning) in his career vs 163 losses and a 3.52 OOTP ERA (npa ERA+ 135). He struck out 4835 men (5th, one spot behind Waddell) in 3570 innings for a career K/9 rate of 12.24, 8th best. Vance also picked up 31 saves.

6 times Vance struck out 300 men in a season. 3 of those times he topped 400. No player has struck out 400 men in more seasons. Toad Ramsey and Rube Waddell also accomplished the feat 3 times.

Vance appeared in 2 post seasons, but never pitched in a WS. His 43 career CGs ties him with Willie McGill for 61st place, all time. He retired in 2049.

Twice a Gold Glove winner, the 7 time All Star Vance enters the HOF at the age of 57.

ADD: Vance struck out a record tying 23 men in a single gamein 2039, but only pitched 8 1/3 innings.

Black Ink: 59 (66)
Gray Ink: 191 (174)
HOFm: 188 (89)
HOFs: 45 (35)

Gorilla Composite: 4.4 (3.7)

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Jim H O'Rourke was selected by the Tampa Bay Rays with the third overall pick in the 2030 draft.

O' Rourke played 0 games at second base. Why mention this? Because he played over 100 games at every other position. He logged over 1000 innings at every position, except LF (and 2B). At catcher he played 7548 innings in 869 games (all but 6 of those were starts) and it is as a catcher, he is inducted...the 4th to be enshrined.

In 2035 he had his best season, as far as OPS+ goes (197). He slashed 310/476/582 wile hitting 23 HR in 105 games. In those 105 games he walked 105 times.

Along with fellow HOFer George Brett, O'Rourke led the Rays to WS victory as he slashed 304/429/717 during that post season, hitting 5 HR in 14 games.

For his career O'Rourke slashed 287/357/472 for a npa OPS+ of 124. He collected 2629 hits (19th, one spot behind Joe Torre), 605 doubles (8th, one more than Orlando Cepeda), 75 triples (t-15th, Nap Lajoie), and 314 HR.

O'Rourke scored 1486 times (22nd, 1 spot ahead of Sam Crawford) and collected 1380 RBI (54th). He also stole 282 bases (66th).

Unlike RL, O'Rourke was never used as a pitcher.

A 5 time All Star, O'Rourke enters the HOF at the age of 51.

Black Ink: 9 (27)
Gray Ink: 92 (297)
HOFm: 95 (84)
HOFs: 62 (49)

Gorilla Composite: 2.9 (4.4)

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Jim Rice was selected by the Reds (not the Red Sox) with the 8th pick in the 2032 draft.

Much in the same manner that he gained entry into the RL HOF, by being one the most feared hitters in the game for the better part of a decade, Rice gains his entry here.

His career numbers are very good, but the totals, themselves, are not quite what would gain a player entry to the HOF here. He had a fine slash line of 302/357/590 (places 33rd for slg%) for a npa OPS+ of 149. He hit 451 HR (t-56th, Javy Lopez and George Brett), 314 doubles, 46 triples, on 1847 career hits. He drove in 1280 (76th, one spot behind Al Oliver) and scored 1041 times.

Now, how he got those numbers:

He broke into the league batting .321 with 40 HR and 116 RBI to take Rookie of the Year, in 2033.

From 2033 through 2041 he hit at least 40 HR each season (a career high 55 in 2038) and drove in at least 107 runs (a career high 157, also in 2038).

He took the Reds to the post season each season from 2035-2037 where he slashed 315/361/596 with 7 HR in 22 games, but never played in a WS.

Rice won a GG in LF and appeared in 6 All Star games before retiring in 2053. He enters the HOF at the age of 48.

Black Ink: 7 (33)
Gray Ink: 148 (176)
HOFm: 149 (146)
HOFs: 41 (43)

Gorilla Composite: 3.1 (4.3)

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Class of 2063 VBBWAA Selections, Part2: Whitney, St Vrain, Fisk

The string of consecutive RL HOFers gaining entry ends at 3, but the string of players named Jim gaining entry extends to 3.

Jim Whitney was selected by the Marlins with the 7th pick in the 2040 draft, at the age of 22. Whitney enters the Hall at the age of 43, and not in his first year of eligibility. Were it not for the 5 year wait, he could have been the youngest entrant in Hall history.

Where as Percy Coleman had a career much like Jamie Moyer, Whitney had a career, here, much like Dizzy Dean. He was incredibly dominant, then suffered an injury that wound up ending his career.

How dominant? 3 Cy Young Awards for starters. He struck out 300 men in each of his first 5 seasons, leading the league with 305 as a rookie. In 2042 he tossed 5 shutouts, one shy of the league recordas he went 24-3 with a 2.11 OOTP ERA for an ERA+ of 205 (!).

He finished his career with a record of 178-105 (55th on the Win list, 18th on the win% list between Toad Ramsey and Walter Johnson) with 54 CGs (t-17th with Randy Johnson and Sandy Kofax) and 10 shutouts (t-59th, Percy Coleman). He struck out 2709 men (58th) in 2601 IP (78th). He was prone to the long ball, surrendering 314 (66th). However, it's not the HRs you give up, but the guys you put on ahead of them. He issued only 368 free passes in his career (6th best W/9) and retired in 2056 with a 1.14 WHIP (19th). His career OOTP ERA of 3.90 makes for an ERA+ of 127.

In 2044 he won his second CYA on a staff that also boasted HOFers Randy Johnson and Early Wynn (ok, Wynn was at the end of his career, but Johnson posted 19 wins that year). HOF Jim Gentile was also on that squad that brought the WS trophy back to south Florida.

Whitney was named to three All Star teams.

His numbers here are compared to Dizzy Dean, IRL:

Black Ink: 28 (52)
Gray Ink: 145 (137)
HOFm: 130.3 (112)
HOFs: 40 (33)

Gorilla Composite: 3.2 (3.3)

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Jim St Vrain extends the string of Jim inductees to four! I thought consecutive Johnsons looked amusing in the sspreadsheet, but this is hilarious to me.

St Vrain joins the Johnsons as the the third 300 game winner in league history with a career record of 302-196 and 12 saves. He ranks third in career wins (between Randy Johnson and Sandy Koufax) and 40th in win % (between Tim Keefe and Matt Kilroy),

St Vrain carried a career OOTP ERA of 3.56 which gives him a solid HOF npa ERA+ of 132.

St Vrain was a distinctly different pitcher from Whitney. He actually gave up one fewer HR than Whitney, though he pitched nearly 2000 more innings, but St Vrain walked 3 times the number of batters. Whatever gets the job done.

St Brain's best season came in 2039 where he went 19-6 with an OOTP ERA of 2.86 (npa ERA+ 156) as he struck out 283 men in 225 1/3 IP. His previous seasons of 17-6, 18-7, and 19-4 were not shabby, either, but it is for his 2039 effort that he won a CYA.

St Brain struck out 4783 men (6th, between Dazzy Vance and Sandy Koufax) in 4382 2/3 IP in his career (2nd, between Walter and Randy Johnson). He ranks 2nd on the career GS list with 650, 3 fewer than Walter and one slot ahead of Randy.

Though he only pitched in 13 games as a 19 year-old IRL, when your name is continually mentioned with Sandy Koufax and Walter Johnson and Randy Johnson, you are a HOFer.

St Vrain threw 17 shutouts (t-8th, John H Murphy) in his his 51 complete games (t-29th, Matt Kilroy, Lefty Grove).

St Vrain retired following the 2055 season. He was on 5 AS teams. He enters the HOF at the age of 49 in his second year of eligibility.

Black Ink: 20
Gray Ink: 171
HOFm: 177
HOFs: 56

Gorilla Composite: 3.5

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This isn't a distance runner's HOF and and I didn't typo "Fixx", so the string of Jims ends with RL HOFer Carlton Fisk being honored for eternity in the tractor shed by the corn field.

Fisk was selected with the 6th pick in the 2028 draft by the Indianapolis Stripes. He chose not sign with them, became a Tar Heel for a year, and was drafted in 2029 by the Stripes again. He decided to ink the deal this time.

Fisk pretty much owns the career leaderboard for catchers. He has the most:
G (2295), GS (2274), and runners thrown out (496).

In his career he hit 566 HR (25th, most for a C), 468 doubles (52nd, most for a C), and somehow legged out 40 triples on 2510 career hits (30th, placing him between Pablo Sandocal and Frank Robinson....most for a C). He amassed 1738 RBI (15th, one spot behind Tony Perez, nost for a C) and scored 1487 times (21st, one more than Jom O'Rourke, most for a C) while posting a career slash line of 272/343/516 for a npa OPS+ of 127.

While he never hit 40 HR in a season, he did sock 35 or more 7 times.

2033 was perhaps his best season as he slashed 301/383/600 (npa OPS+ 163) with 37 HR and 113 RBI.

Having played on 4 AS teams, Fisk retired in 2054. He enters the HOF at the age of 53.

Black Ink: 4 (1)
Gray Ink: 68 (54)
HOFm: 177 (120)
HOFs: 63 (49)

Gorilla Composite: 3.1 (2.2)

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Jim Whitney and Carlton Fisk enter their second OOTP HOF.

Dazzy Vance, Jim H O'Rourke, Jim Rice, Jim St Vrain and Percy Coleman enter their first OOTP HOF.

28 of the 79 inductees here are in the RL HOF as players.

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Class of 2063: Jackson

Ineligible for induction to the RL HOF, it is more than fitting that, every time a HOF has been built in the cornfield, Shoeless Joe Jackson has come.

Jackson enters on his first ballot and joins Randy Johnson as the second player to get into the HOF on their first year of eligibility with the revised model implemented for this league. I like this change, and it gives meaning and value to a first ballot induction that was too much in the hands of circumstance in the previous HOF.

Shoeless Joe was selected by the Orioles with the top pick in the 2033 draft. He played with them through 2048 and was the centerpiece of what became a dynasty in Baltimore.

Between 2038 and 2043 the O's went to 4 WS and won 3.

Jackson broke into the league in 2034 by taking his first of 3 consecutive batting titles and Rookie of the Year honors with a .387 BA. An OBP of .456 and a slg% of .687 gave him a npa OPS+ of 207. He would have an npa OPS+ over 200 in each of his first 4 seasons and have a 5th in his 6th season Jackson would wind up with 8 batting titles to his name.

In his rookie season Jackson also won league MVP. This would be the first of 7 times he won the award.

Twice he batted over .400. He is the only player in league history to do so.

In 2043 he collected what still stands as a league record 247 hits. He broke 200 hits in 6 seasons.

Shoeless Joe enters the HOF as the All-Time hit leader with 3572. He is the career leader in doubles with 790. He is the career leader in triples with 103.

Jackson is also the career leader in singles with 2258. If his only hits were singles, he would rank 61st on the all-time hit list. As it is, his singles total is greater than 23 of the other 56 HOF hit totals.

Jackson scored 1911 runs in his career (3rd, behind Hank Aaron and leader Barry Bonds) and picked up 1760 RBI (13th, one spot ahead of Tony Perez). He hit for power, also, with 421 HR (76th). He stole 338 bases, as well (41st).

Jackson saw his last big league action in 2055, but did not retire until 2 years later. His career slash line of 353/417/576 (2nd, currently behind an active player and one spot ahead of George Sisler/ 9th, one spot ahead of Dan Brouthers/ 51st) is good for a npa OPS+ of 165. He is currently 19th on the career OPS list, one spot ahead of Duke Snider.

As mentioned earlier, Jackson won 3 WS with the Orioles:

- 2038 with George Brett and Randy Johnson
- 2041/2042 with Bill Skowron

In 2052 Jackson again won a WS, this time with Mariners. He is the first player from that squad to be inducted.

In 97 post season games, Jackson slashed 336/388/518 with 14 HR and 48 RBI.

Jackson ranks 3rd on the career VORP and WAR lists, trailing only leader Hank Aaron and Barry Bonds for each.

A 12 time All Star, Jackson enters the HOF at the age of 46.

Black Ink: 83 (14)
Gray Ink: 215 (186)
HOFm: 426 (122)
HOFs: 80 (40)

Gorilla Composite: 9.0 (3.4)

Using the model in place for this HOF and applying it to the RL environment, even with his abbreviated career, Joe Jackson should be in the RL HOF, 1919 issues not withstanding.

Amongst players in this HOF, Jackson's GC is only bested by Hank Aaron's.

Joe Jackson has been inducted into all three OOTP HOF.



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From Wosrt to First

2 years after leaving the Columbus team, they went to the WS and lost in 7 games, having finished in second place the year after I left the team.

During my tenure, the AI made some trades (team focus set to 'rebuild') that brought in some younger players that took playing time away from veteran, and most popular team member with the fans, Don Mincher.

Don Mincher will be a HOFer, and might get in on the first ballot. That is how good he was, in his prime.

He expressed displeasure with not being played, so I shopped him and unloaded his hefty salary and reacquired former 2nd rd draft pick (traded before I took over) Matt Weiters.

Weiters was a solid contributor (winning GG for the pennant winning squad) in both successful seasons after my departure. The freeing up of cash allowed for some good Free Agent signings by the new regime.

If I was playing the game to keep my job and take a crack at the next year with the AI ability to fire me enabled, I don't think I would have traded Mincher. It is so cool that OOTP makes you consider such things, if you want them enabled.

And one final self-congratulatory note: My only first rd selection as GM of Columbus, Ralph Kiner, has won two MVPs. It sucks to get fired, but I take comfort in the thought that I did leave the team better than how I found it.

ADD: The WS team featured 4 players with at least 40 HR, Kiner, Dean Palmer, Travis Hafner and Del J Young.

ADD: Columbus won the 2063 WS. I am vindicated as Kiner gets 3rd MVP and both Pumpsie Green and Matt Weiters were solid contributors. Last post about the Prairie Thunder.

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2 players were given first ballot screenings. On to next year...
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Class of 2065: McGriff

Fred McGriff is the second consecutive player to be inducted intot he HOF in his first year of eligibility. He is also the second consecutive player who gets his induction with the revised selection model instituted for this HOF. This revision to the process is a pleasing one and definitely an improvement over the previous run throughs.

McGriff was the 12th player selected in the 2036 draft, going to the Boston Red Sox.

Well, he didn't go to them, right away. It wasn't until 2037 when the Sox used their compensation pick (13th) for not signing McGriff the first time around did he become a Bostonian.

Perhaps McGriff thought he wasn't ready the year before. In 2038, he definitely was ready. In 2038 he took hoe Rookie of the Year and the Barry Bonds Best Batter Brought to you by Balko (MVP) award by smacking 54 HR, driving in 124 and scoring 130 times on a slash line of 307/392/620 (npa OPS+ 173).

In 2041 he again won the MVP award as he launched a career high 72 HRs while slashing 315/417/735 for a npa OPS+ of 205. He also collected a career high 172 RBI.

McGriff wasn't through etching his name on the MVP. In 2045 he hit 71 HR and scored a career high 140 to take home the MVP award, yet again. He is one of three players to hit 70 HR in a season twice.

In his career, which spanned through the 2059 season, McGriff hit 653 HR (12th) and 401 doubles on 2460 base hits (39th, between Pete Rose and Al Oliver). He drove in 1766 (13th, between George Brett and Shoeless Joe Jackson) and scored 1505 runs (22nd, one slot behind Hans Lobert). His career slash line of 292/369/576 gives him a npa OPS+ of 147. He ranks 56th on the career slg% list, one spot ahead of Shoeless Joe, and 64th on the career OPS list.

McGriff played in 6 play-offs, and one WS, but never took home the championship trophy.

An 8 time All Star, McGriff picked up a GG at 1B and enters the HOF at the age of 49.

Black Ink: 45 (9)
Gray Ink: 167 (105)
HOFm: 249 (108)
HOFs: 55 (48)

Gorilla Composite: 5.6 (2.7)

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Though not the dominant force IRL to the degree he was in this league, using the standards in place here as applied to RL, McGriff should be in the RL HOF.

Fred McGriff enters his second OOTP HOF.
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Class of 2066: Lumley

Harry Lumley is the third consecutive First Ballot enshrinee.

Lumley was selected by the Cardinals with the top pick in the 2036 draft. Good call.

Lumley picked up Rookie of the Month honors twice in 2037. However a 3 week stay on the DL in July and a 6 week stint in August ;iterally, uh, hamstrung' him in efforts to attain ROY.

He wound up hitting .309 with 19 HRs and 48 SB in 100 games in his rookie campaign.

In his sophomore season of 2038, Lumley hit 47 HR and stole 67 bases while slashing 313/371/603 for a npa OPS+ of 157 and league MVP.

He followed up with a 42 HR 2039 season and a batting title with a .332 average for a second consecutive MVP.

2040 the injury bug limited him to 90 games, but he came back in 2041.

In 2041 he posted career highs in HR (60), RBI, (148) and R (151) while slashing 318/390/708 for a career best npa OPS+ of 189 and his third MVP.

In 2042 he won his 4th MVP, pulling a repeat-repeat for the Barry Bonds Best Batter Brought to you by Balko Award.

Injuries kept him on the shelf for much of 2043, however the Cards played well enough with out him to put themselves in contention for the stretch drive, which Lumley was back for. He carried them through the post season and hoisted the WS trophy in St Louis. Lumley is the first player to be inducted into the HOF from that squad.

Playing through the 2060 season, Lumley cracked 2399 hits (46th, 1 spot ahead of Bobby Bonilla). 463 for those were doubles (t-66 with Rico Petrocelli), 452 were HR (64th, one fewer than Bobby Bonilla, one more than George Brett), and 69 were triples (t-24th with George Davis). His career slash line of 296/367/537 made for a npa OPS+ of 137.

During his career he stole 313 bases (51st), scored 1457 runs (31st, one spot behind Jim Gentile), and drove in 1380 (t-61st with Jim H O'Rourke).

A 7 time All Star, Lumley enters the HOF at the age of 51.

Black Ink 30
Gray Ink: 133
HOFm: 287
HOFs: 56

Gorilla Composite: 5.1

Harry Lumley enters his first OOTP HOF.
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Class of 2067 Veterans Committee Selections: Williams, Gross

The Veterans Committee selections are probably the most fun for me to see. Guys like Shoeless Joe jackson, who get in on the first ballot are no brainer HOFers. A guy like Dazzy Vance was almost a first ballot induction, but there was no doubt that he would get in, even though he wasn't named his first time around.

Sometimes we see guys that had good RL careers, but not HOF careers, put together HOF careers here. Joe Torre, Tim Wallach and Ron Cey come to mind there.

Then we have guys that were pretty much cup of coffee types who got favorable development from the OOTP engine and enter the HOF here without much of a RL resume, at all. Alex Serrano is probably the most extreme example of this.

What is the rarest thing to see while using recalc and player development, is a guy that played for several years in the majors without a RL season of note, or an All Star appearance (or maybe just one) yet becomes a HOFer.

The Veterans Committee found two such players for 2067. In 21 big league calender years, the two players combined for 1 RL ASG.

Both if these players are evidence that the recalc does not disable player development. Recalc plus player development makes OOTP the best baseball simulation for running leagues like this one. There are plenty of RL HOFers (and guys that should be in the RL HOF) that will be entering the Hall in coming classes, as well as voted in by the writers this class.

It is also worth mentioning that by using this HOF model, just as you never know who will develop to what degree in OOTP, you never know who will get in until they get in.

Both entries by the Vets, here, certainly fit both aspects of the "You never know" classification.

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Eddie Williams was the 17th player taken in the 2021 draft, selected by the Arizona Diamondbacks.

He played with the Snakes through 2035, and ended his career in 2036 in San Diego (same as IRL).

Williams hit 365 HRs in his career in which he sported a slash line of 285/348/516 for a npa OPS+ of 132.

5 times Williams drove in 100 runs in a season. He finished his career with 1088.

Williams made a name for himself in the game by nearly winning the Triple Crown in 2029. He posted career highs in all three categories and led the league in HR (57) and RBI (139) while his .352 BA placed him second in the batting race behind Orlando Cepeda. He collected these stats in only 125 games. An OBP of .413 and a slg% of .779 (both career highs) gave him a npa OPS+ of 224 for the year. He also scored 103 times in those 125 regular season games.

2029 was the only season Williams saw post season action. He continued his torrid hitting in October by batting .340 with 5 HR and 16 RBI in 13 games, leading the diamondbacks to WS victory. HOF Early Wynn was also a member of that team.

A three time All Star, Williams enters the HOF at the age of 65 as a third baseman.

Black Ink: 12
Gray Ink: 76
HOFm: 93.5
HOFs: 38

Gorilla Composite: 2.4

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Wayne Gross was chosen by the Indians with the 32nd pick in the 2029 draft. Everyone passed on him. And Cleveland would, too.

After hitting 22 HR as a rookie, Gross was injured in Spring Training of 2031. The Indians waited for him to get healthy, and then released him. A move befitting the Tribe.

He would remain unsigned until October when the Mets gave him a minor league deal.

In 2032 he batted .287 with a team best 45 HR for the Mets, in only 116 games. 31 year-old teammate Barry Bonds hit 37 in 134 games. With Bonds and Gross providing the offense, and John Smoltz on the Hill, the Mets won the WS.

In 2034, the Mets had added Rube Waddell to the mix and again won the WS with Gross knocking 35 HR.

In 2036, Smoltz was gone, but Bill Skowron had been added. Gross, Bonds, and Wadell were still the core and of what was a Mets dynasty. As in 2032, Gross led the team in HR (38) and the Mets won their third WS in 3 appearances in five years. Way to go, Tribe!

Gross posted a career slash line of 264/359/515 for a npa OPS+ of 134. He hit 442 HR (72nd, one fewer than Fred Luderus), collected 1236 RBI and scored 1090 runs.

A 3 time All Star, Gross won a GG at 3B and at 1B. He enters the HOF as a 3Bman at the age of 60.

Black Ink: 7
Gray Ink: 71
HOFm: 87
HOFs: 44

Gorilla Composite: 2.2

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Class of 2067 VBBWAA Selections: Murphy, Heilmann, Romano

Dale Murphy was selected with the 14th pick in the 2038 draft by the Phillies.

He broke into the league by batting .292 with 24 HR and 72 RBI as a 19 year-old rookie catcher in 2039.

In 2040, and still playing catcher, he hit 29 HRs and helped power the Phillies, along with HOF teammate Jose Canseco, to a WS win.

In 2046 he left Phillie to take the big bucks in the Bronx. He paid them back by winning the MVP with a slash line of 332/423/676 for a npa OPS+ of 186, postin league bests in OBP and slg. His 57 HR and 134 R were also league best. He finished 3rd in the batting race and his 136 RBI were 4th best in the league. He also had a league high 87 walks on the season.

OK, I gave the Indians a bit of grief in the Wayne Gross posting, so I have to be fair, here, and praise their incredible grasp of the obvious that signing Dale Murphy was a good thing. They inked him to a 4 year deal prior to the 2048 season.

In 2048, Murphy, Nap Lajoie, and Smokey Burgess brought the WS trophy to the shores of Lake Erie. Murphy led the team with 39 HR and 107 runs scored.

For his career Murphy smashed 574 HR (27th, one more than Billy Williams) and collected 1583 RBI (36th) and scored 1437 runs (34th). His career slash line of 274/347/529 gives him a npa OPS+ of 128.

Dale Murphy retired following the 2062 season ranking 65th on the career hit list with 2308.

A 6 time All Star, Murphy won 2 GGs as an OFer and enters the HOF at the age of 46 as a CFer.

Black Ink: 13 (31)
Gray Ink: 115 (147)
HOFm: 165.5 (116)
HOFs: 56 (34)

Gorilla Composite: 3.5 (3.6)

Using the standards in place here, an applying them to RL, Dale Murphy should be in Cooperstown.

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Harry Heilmann was chosen with second overall pick in the 2029 draft by the Reds.


Harry Heilmann could easily be entering his third OOTP HOF. Instead, this is his second. He was shot down by the Saberheads repeatedly in a previous run through when a borderline decision was made by the committee. He was considered a statue in the OF and that kept him from being enshrined, there.

In this incarnation, Heilmann took matters into his own hands and as a Rookie, not only did he win the batting title with a .333 avearge, but he also won the Gold Glove...in Centerfield. THAT is shocking.

Helimann here, as in previous leagues, is offensive force.

For his career he slashed 326/387/551 (20th/80th/*)for a npa OPS+ of 151. He collected 552 doubles (18th, 2 fewer than Hank Aaron), 59 triples (t-60th, Mike Trout), and 329 HR amongst his 2402 career hits (47th, three more than Harry Lumley). He ranks 72nd on the career OPS list.

In 2036 he won his second batting title by hitting .371 and he also hit a career high 45 HRs that season, driving in a career high 135 and scoring a career high 114 runs. He also hit a career high, and league leading, 46 doubles as he earned the league MVP.

Heilman played in 5 post seasons, but never in a fall Classic.

He tallied 1267 career RBI (89th) and scored 1246 times (81st, one fewer than Pablo Sandoval). He retired in 2053.

Heilmann appeared in 9 All Star games and enters the HOF as a RFer at the age of 55.

Black Ink: 10 (21)
Gray Ink: 103 (244)
HOFm: 155 (188)
HOFs: 58 (57)

Gorilla Composite: 3.3 (4.8)

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John Romano was selected by the Marlins with the 8th pick in the 2041 draft.

Romano ranks 5th amongst catchers with 1742 games caught, twice winning the Gold Glove.

Romano played through 2059 and retired in 2060. In his career he hit 482 HR, collected 1161 RBI and scored 1120 runs while slashing 286/392/533 for a npa OPS+ of 141. He drew 1043 walks which is one walk behind Hank Aaron on the All Time List, placing him 44th.

Except for an injury shortened 2050 season, Romano hit at least 20 HR every year from his rookie 2042 season through 2056. 5 times he batted over .300 and 5 times he had an OBP over .400.

In 2044 he hit .305 with 34 HR and 107 RBI as he was part of a stacked WS winning Marlins squad that included HOFers Bobby Bonilla, Jim Gentile, Jim Whitney and Randy Johnson.

His best season came in 2048 when he slashed 320/428/659 for a npa OPS+ 179. He posted career highs in slg%, OPS+, HR (47) RBI (119) and runs (104) and walked a career high 90 times.

In 2051 he batted .290 with 30 HR in 118 games backstopping the cross state Rays to a WS title. Romano is the player from this squad to enter the HOF.

A 4 time All Star, Romano enters the HOF at the age of 47.

Ranked the 64th best catcher in RL, by JAWS, OOTP just seems to love John Romano.

Black Ink: 0
Gray Ink: 67
HOFm: 137
HOFs: 59

Gorilla Composite: 2.6

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Harry Heilmann and John Romano enter their second OOTP HOF.

Eddie Williams, Wayne Gross, and Dale Murphy are entering their first OOTP HOF.

Harry Heilmann is the 29th RL HOFer here, out of 87 inductees.

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RIP Frank Castillo

I just learned the sad news of Frank Castillo's passing. Castillo was a guy that I always liked. He was crafty, even as a youngster. A pitcher in the true sense of the word. When he had command of his stuff (which was far from jawdropping in caliber, at the Major League level) he knew how to use it.

I had the opportunity to see him spin a fine game back in 1991, up close. I remember it like it was yesterday, and now I learn that he is gone and I realize that 1991 hasn't been yesterday for quite some time.

Castillo did have a nice career, here. I thought I would post his player page as a small tribute, for whatever it means.
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Class of 2068: Cravath

Gavvy Cravath was the first player selected in the 2044 draft. He went to play for the Reds. Cravath enters in his first year on the ballot on the First Ballot Standard at the age of 48.

Cravath does not enter the draft pool until he is 25 years-old and does not play his first regular season game until he is 26. In spite of this, he has put up HOF careers in each of the three leagues I have run working this HOF model.

Cravath's 2050 career hits included 413 doubles, 45 tiples, and 654 HR (13th, one more than Fred McGriff). He drove in 1639 runs (31st) and scored 1524 times (21st, between Dan Brouthers and Al Rosen). His 1168 career walks is one fewer than Jim Gentile and rank him 18th All Time.

Cravath posted an incredible slash line of 304/408/669 (*/ 20th, 0.0001 behind Jackie Robinson/ 4th) which gave him an enormous career npa OPS+ number of 177. Cravath enters the HOF 4th on the career OPS list, ahead of every other retired player.

Gavvy Cravath is the answer to a great trivia question for this alternate reality (as he is IRL). Who is the only player to win three consecutive MVPs for three different teams? That be Gavvy.

In 2054, in his Free Agent season with Cincy, Cravath belted 62 HR and drove in 137 while batting .327 in 127 games.

He signed a big one year deal in 2055 with San Diego and had an absolutely amazing season. He slashed 375/493/971 for a freaking npa OPS+ of 268.

He would have won a batting title, and these would be league records for OBP and SLG, however, Cravath didn't have enough PAs to qualify for those.

Not even close. He played in only 76 games, yet he hit 48 HR and drove in 98 runs and led the league in VORP playing in less than half a flippin season.

What would happen if he played a full season...say 150 games?

Well, he answered that question in 2056, now as a Marlin, he ripped 83 HR and drove in a single-season league record 199 runs. 302/396/792 npa OPS+ 206 for the slash.....none too shabby.

He also powered a stacked Marlins squad (no HOFers, yet, but there will be plenty) to a WS win.

Cravath played in 12 All Star games.

Black Ink: 27 (46)
Gray Ink: 138 (110)
HOFm: 229 (50)
HOFs: 67 (23)

Gorilla Composite: 4.8 (3.3)

Using the standards in place for this HOF and applying them to RL, Cravath should be in the RL HOF. My personal opinion is that it is a travesty that he is not. Deacon White?!? OK, I can buy him....but not before Gavvy.

I may be slightly biased since he has entered all three of my OOTP HOF. Al Rosen is the only other eligible player who has made all three who is not in Cooperstown. I would vote for him, also.
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Class of 2069, Part 1: Griffey Jr, Mize

Ken Griffey Jr was the third overall selection in the 2038 draft, taken by the Giants.

In his rookie 2039 season he slashed 349/426/646 for a npa OPS+ of 183. He hit 35 HR, collected 100 RBI and scored 94 times in only 108 games to take ROY honors.

From an OPS+ standpoint, this was his best season (minimum 80 games played).

In 2043 he hit a league leading and career high 47 HR while scoring and driving in 111.

For his career, Griffey slashed 281/353/554 for a npa OPS+ of 136 (his RL OPS+ was also 136). He hit 611 HR (23rd, one spot ahead of Al Rosen) on 2331 hits (67th, one more than Duke Snider). He collected 1654 RBI (28th) and scored 1466 runs (t-31st, Snider).

It's hard to say that a guy who gets into the HOF was a disappointment, but this is Ken Griffey Jr. When Junior gets in to the RL HOF on the first ballot in 2016, he will be the best OFer inducted into Cooperstown since Frank Robinson in 1982. Other than Rickey Henderson (whose style of play makes the comparison of the two a bit of an apples and oranges discussion), there is no sustainable argument to the contrary. Of course, this is assuming that come 2016 Barry Bonds is still not in the Hall.

Ken Griffey Jr, IRL, is in the discussion of best OFer ever that is not named George Herman Ruth. Bonds is in that discussion (pre-Balko Bonds was that good) as are Robinson, Mantle, Mays, Williams and select others....Yaz and Reggie (players inducted after Robinson) are not in that discussion.

Here, Griffey is not in that discussion. Though his npa OPS+ here equals his RL OPS+, he just didn't reach THAT level. He played his OOTP career in an environment where about 5 runs* were scored per team per game (a 2012 environment with lowered pitching mounds). Someone drafting Griffey in the game would expect more. But, that is part of what makes this game great.

Just as players like Eddie Williams and Wayne Gross can get favorable development and make it into the HOF, an all-time great, like Jr, can be less fortunate, but still have clear HOF creds.

Griffey was a 6 time AS and won one Gold Glove in CF. Perhaps the best "disappointing" career in league history.

Griffey retired following the 2062 season. He gets into the HOF in his second year of eligibility at the age of 48.

Black Ink: 4 (26)
Gray Ink: 89 (162)
HOFm: 137 (235)
HOFs: 60 (61)

Gorilla Composite: 2.9 (4.9)

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This alternate universe knows no war. Guys like Johnny Mize like that.

Johnny Mize was selected by the Diamondbacks with the 15th overall pick in the 2048 draft. 14 teams were kicking themselves 20 years later.

Mize had one of the most amazing careers I have seen in these leagues.

Mize played 15 seasons in the Majors before a CEI ended his run in 2063 (yes, he is a First Ballotter).

In EVERY season, including partials, he hit at least 23 HR. In all but one year he batted .300. In all but one year his OBP was over .390. In all but one year his slg% was over .600.

10 times in his career he drove in 100 runs, including 7 straight seasons from 2052-2058.

In 2051 he batted .361 to win a batting crown. Twice he had 200 hits in a season, leading the league both times that he did.

In 2052 he hit 40 HR and drove in 117 in only 96 games. That was good enough to win league MVP honors. His slash line? 396/456/811 (npa OPS+ 218).

Mize rapped 2501 career hits (36th, 5 fewer than Frank Robinson). 575 of those were HR (29th, one more than Dale Murphy) and 426 were doubles (90th). He drove in 1646 (29th) and scored 1445 runs (36th). His career slash line is an upper echelon HOF 339/418/644 (10th, one spot ahead of Mike Donlin/9th, between Barry Bonds and Shoeless Joe/10th) for a mammoth npa OPS+ of 174.

Mize ranks 8th on the career OPS list.

Mize won two GGs at 1B. He is the youngest of the entrants, this year, at the age of 42.

Black Ink: 19 (50)
Gray Ink: 210 (202)
HOFm: 279.5 (175)
HOFs: 64 (47)

Gorilla Composite: 5.2 (5.3)

As mentioned, Mize played in 15 calender years at the ML level. He made 12 All Star teams.

ADD: Mize hit 40, or more, HR in a season 7 times...he hit 50 or more 3 times.....the one season where he didn't hit .300 (.286) or have a .390 OBP (.374) he hit a career high 59 HR. Fair swap, that.

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Class of 2069, Part 2: Mincher, Burns

Fan favorite, Don Mincher, whom I traded per his request, which led to my firing, does indeed get into the HOF on his first ballot, having retired following the 2063 season.

An OOTP note: If your owner is rated "unmerciful", he is.

Don Mincher was the 6th player taken in the 2043 draft by the Columbus Prairie Thunder (the former Minnesota Twins).

In 8 seasons with the Thunder Mincher hit at least 48 HR 7 times. 7 times he had at least 109 RBI. 7 times he scored at least 100 runs. No wonder he was a fan favorite.

2048 was perhaps his finest season. He slashed 340/408/777 for a npa OPS+ of 203. He hit 73 HR and collected 164 RBI.

In 2050 he posted career highs in HR with 79, RBI with 187, and runs with 147, and won his second MVP.

Mincher left the Midwest for Miami prior to the 2052 season.

In 2053 he hit 61 HR and drove in 160. He won his third MVP and along with 44 year-old future HOFer Carlton Fisk (who batted .307 that year) led the Marlins to a WS win. Frank Castillo was 14-7 for that marlin team, also.

In 2054 Fisk had gone, but Mincher was still powering the Marlins through another post season and to another title. Mincher is the first player to be inducted from that squad.

Mincher enters the Hall 9th on the All Time HR list (one spot behind Orlando Cepeda) with 693 and 15th on the career RBI list with 1791 (one spot ahead of George Brett). He collected 2342 base hits (64th, one fewer than Rico Petrocelli and one more than Al Rosen) and scored 1494 times (26th, one spot behind Fred McGriff) while posting a career npa OPS+ of 148 from a 289/366/599 slash line.

Mincher ranks 35th on the career slugging list, placing between Willie Stargell and Jim Ray Hart. He enters the HOF ranking 43rd on the career OPS list.

An 8 time All Star, Mincher won two Gold Gloves at 1B. He is adjacent to classmate Johnny Mize on the alphabetical listing of HOF hitters (means nothing, but I like noticing these things).

Mincher gives his acceptance speech at the age of 48.

Black Ink: 59
Gray Ink: 161
HOFm: 376.5
HOFs: 52

Gorilla Composite: 6.9

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I know there are White Sox fans in the forum, and maybe a couple who follow this thread. Perhaps they are old enough to have seen Britt Burns pitch. Perhaps some are also young enough to have looked up to him as a young person's hero for their favorite team.

To me, it is exciting to see players that I liked when I was younger play in OOTP. To see someone who was a good player, IRL, but nowhere near a HOFer put together a HOF career here is really a kick. So, Southsiders, this one's for you.

If Jody Davis ever gets in, I will be singing Harry Caray's "Davey Crockett" Ode to Jode at the top of my lungs (and probably be taken away for 21 days after concerned neighbors phone the authorities).

Britt Burns was chosen by the Jacksonville Sonics (formerly the Dodgers) with the 16th overall pick in the 2035 drafHe last pitched in the NL in 2057 and retired in 2058.

Burns put together a career record of 233-232 with an ERA of 4.05 which makes for an ERA+ of 117.

There have been few pitchers entering the HOF in comparison to hitters, based on the expected rate. There have also been few big name pitcher coming into the league over the past couple decades. The rate of pitchers vs hitters has nothing to do with who comes into the league or how their careers rank according to the standards in use, here.

That said, Britt Burns is the the best pitcher eligible for entry at this time. This isn't a flukey number draw...er.....peculiar vote by the writers.

Britt Burns ranks 14th on the career VORP list. He is the 24th pitcher inducted. No pitcher eligible for induction rankins higher on the VORP list.

Burns ranks 16th on the WAR list. The only players ahead of him who are not in the Hall are still active. The model has been enshrining the strongest pitchers, and even with fewer pitchers than expected entered at this time, the career of Britt Burns is the best of those not already in.

Burns 233 wins is one fewer than CC Sabathia, and places him 15th on the career list. There is only one eligible player with more wins that is not already inducted.

Burns struck out 4174 men in his career, 13th most. Only one player has more strikeouts who is not already inducted.

Now with the Giants in 2050, Burns was 13-10 with an OOTP ERA of 3.84 (npa ERA+ 124) and 233 Ks in 220 1/3 IP vs 55 walks. He helped the Giants to WS victory, that year. He is the first player from that team to enter the HOF.

He left for Houston in 2054, signing a 2 year deal for $3.6 million per season. In 2055, at age 36, he went 19-9 and signed a two year deal that off-season for $12 million per season. Well played, Britt.

It's a good time to sign on as a starting pitcher with a new team when that team has a future HOFer who is about to set the league RBI record for a season. Gavvy Cravath powered the 2056 Marlins at the plate, and Burns notched 16 wins as the Marlins won the WS (lots of Marlin WS mentions).

Burns pitched out his contract in 2057, but he was fighting father time, and called it quits early in 2058 after posting a final yearly mark of 7-14, striking out only 79 men in 156 IP, having K'ed close to a man an inning just the year before.

A three time All Star, Burns enters the HOF at the age of 50.

Black Ink: 5
Gray Ink: 172
HOFm: 110.6
HOFs: 34

Gorilla Composite: 2.3

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Britt Burns enters his first OOTP HOF.
Don Mincher enters his second OOTP HOF.
Ken Griffey Jr and Johnny Mize have been selected to all three OOTP HOF.

Johnny Mize is the 30th RL HOF, of 92 entrants.
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Class of 2070 Veterans Committee Selections: Feller, Cedeno

I noted that Britt Burns, inducted in the last class, had the best career of any eligible pitcher. Though Burns did have batter career VORP/WAR numbers, an argument could be made that Bob Feller had the better career.

Bob Feller was selected by the Pirates with the third overall pick in the 2026 draft.

He broke into the league as a 22 year-old and made 17 starts compiling a record of 8-3 with an OOTP ERA of 2.88 (npa ERA+ 147) striking out 147 men in 90 1/3 innings.

He followed up in 2028 by setting a still standing league record for win% in a season (.944) by going 17-1 with an OOTP ERA of 1.43 which makes for an incredible npa ERA+ of 301. He struck out 366 men in 214 1/3 IP.

Injuries halved his 2029 season. In 2030 he again struck out 300+ batters. He would do so every season through 2035.

For his career, Feller posted 207 wins (35th) vs 144 losses. His .590 win % ranks him 85th, all time.

His career OOTP ERA of 3.36 (29th, one spot ahead of Walter Johnson) makes for an excellent npa ERA+ of 140. He struck out 4322 men (11th, one spot behind Tommy Bridges) in 3186 2/3 innings. His K/9 rate of 12.06 ranks him 10th, all time.

Rapid Robert went the distance 40 times in his career (92md, 1 fewer than John Smoltz) and tossed 15 shutouts (t-14th, Randy Johnson).

Feller last pitched in the ML in 2043. He retired in 2045.

Feller pitched in 4 post seasons and in one WS, but never won a Championship.

Feller appeared on 2 All Star teams. He enters the HOF at the age of 65 on the Veteran Standard.

Black Ink: 22 (98)
Gray Ink: 138 (232)
HOFm: 132 (180)
HOFs: 46 (51)

Gorilla Composite: 2.9 (5.6)

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Cesar Cedeno was selected by the Jacksonville Sonics with the 4th pick of the 2027 draft.

Probably his best season came in 2033 when he hit a career high 40 HR and a career high 125 RBI while stealing 43 bases. He slashed 323/385/590 for a npa OPS+ of 161. In a completely random occurrence, Cedeno batted .353 and took home a batting crown in his free agent season of 2034.

He left the Sonics for the Mets in 2035. In 2036, along with HOFers Barry Bonds, Bill Skowron, Wayne Gross, and Rube Waddell he helped the Mets win the WS.

For his career, Cedeno collected 2155 hits (97th). 487 were doubles (50th, one spot ahead of Bobby Bonilla), and 301 were HR. He stole 414 bases (18th) in his career. He scored 1272 runs (81st, 3 fewer than Pete Rose) and drove in 1076. His career slash line of 295/346/498 gives him a career npa OPS+ of 127.

Cedeno won 2 OF GG and appeared in 5 All Star Games. He enters the HOF at the age of 59 on the Veteran Standard.

Black Ink: 12 (4)
Gray Ink: 108 (70)
HOFm: 98 (42)
HOFs: 48 (28)

Gorilla Composite: 2.8 (1.5)

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Class of 2070 VBBWAA Selection: Hrbek

"Kent the Gent" not only is a first ballot HOFer, here, but at the age 41 yrs and 260 days, he is the youngest entrant since the institution of the 5 year wait.

Hrbek was drafted by the Rays with the 7th overall pick in the 2047 draft.

Clubbing 50 HR and driving in 133 while slashing 319/383/624 (npa OPS+ 160), he took home ROY honors.

He followed up with a sophomre season HR total of 55 while slashing 334/389/704 for a career high npa OPS+ of 182 and his first of two MVP trophies.

In 2051 he collected a career high 143 runs on 47 HR and led the Rays to WS victory. He is the first member of that team to be inducted.

In each of his hirst 5 seasons he batted at least .309 and hit at least 39 HR and drove in at least 109 runs.

A Houston Astro in 2056, he hit a career high 57 HR and took home his second MVP.

The following season he posted a trad line of .303/45/124 bringing Houston a title. Hrbek is also the first member of this team to be inducted into the HOF.

For his career, Hrbek hit 513 HR (49th, one behind Viv Saier) on 2051 hits. He ripped 355 doubles, posted 1431 RBI (57th) and scored 1220 times (95th, one more than Jimmy Rollins) before he retired in 2064.

He has a career slash line of 303/368/587 which is a npa OPS+ of 147. He is tied for 49th place all time in slg% with Jim Gentile.

Hrbek enters the HOF having been named to 6 AS teams.

Black Ink: 19 (0)
Gray Ink: 134 (40)
HOFm: 205 (18)
HOFs: 46 (26)

Gorilla Composite: 3.9 (0.9)

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Cesar Cedeno enters his second OOTP HOF.

Bob Feller and Kent Hrbek are entering their first OOTP HOF.

Feller is 31st RL HOFer, or 95 entrants.
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Class of 2071 Veterans Committee Selection: Thomas

I love Gorman Thomas. It is very cool that he gets in here. Crashing into an OF wall of corn stalks won't hurt him, a bit.

Stormin' Gorman was the 19th overall selection by the Jacksonville Sonics (Dodgers) in the 2033 draft.

Twice an All-Star, Thomas hit 50 HR in his career three times. He retired in 2051, but had not played in the ML since 2049, with 461 HR (69th) in 5406 career AB. He collected 1202 RBI in 15 seasons (he did not play in 2048) and scored 1016 runs.

Of course, GT K'ed. 1548 strikeouts in 1457 games. That is just part of his package. 251/343/558 was his career slash line. This was good for a 137 npa OPS+.

In 1940 he won the MVP by batting .303 with 55 HR and 138 RBI, all career highs for 100 games played in a season. He slugged .751 and got on base at a .405 clip to post a npa OPS+ of 208.

Thomas played in 7 post season, belting 14 HR in 37 games, but never made it to a WS.

Thomas enters the HOF at the age of 58 with one OF GG to his credit.

Black Ink: 15 (8)
Gray Ink: 65 (60)
HOFm: 122.5 (35)
HOFs: 43 (16)

Gorilla Composite: 2.7 (1.3)
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Class of 2071 VBBWAA Selections: Hubbell, Doyle

The writers elect 2 players in their first year on the ballot.

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Carl Hubbell was selected by the Tigers with the 6th overall pick in the 2045 draft. He played in 18 seasons in the 20 years before he retired following the 2065 season.

Hubbell posted a career record of 236-133 with an OOTP ERA of 3.43 *32rd, 1 spot ahead of Willie McGill) which gives him a npa ERA+ of 143. He struck out 3626 men (2oth, 4 more than Sabathia) in 3472 IP (23rd, 1 spot behind Jim Bunning) while walking only 612. His 236 wins rank him 11th on the all time Win list, 2 more victories than CC Sabathia.

He pitched 70 complete games (9th, one spot behind John H Murphy) and 18 shutouts (t-6th, Sabathia). Twice he threw 12 CGs in a season. Only 6 players have thrown more CGs in a season (HOFers Toad Ramsey and Murphy among them).

In 2049 he won the Cy Young award by going 22-4 with an OOTP ERA of 2.60 (npa ERA+ 177). He struck out 320 batters and walked 52 in 266 1/3 IP. This was his second consecutive 300 K season, of two career 300 K seasons. ADD: Hubbell won the pitching Triple Crown in 2049.

In 2055 he was 13-2 in 27 starts before being shelved for the season in mid-August. He had a 2.05 OOTP ERA which was a npa ERA+ of 224.

He threw a no hitter in 2059, at the age of 37.

In 2060, now a member of the Indians, Hubbell won his only WS. He is the first player from this team to be inducted into the HOF.

A 9 time All Star, Hubbell enters the HOF at the age of 48.

Hubbell played in 9 ASG, IRL, just as here, and won one WS IRL, just as here.

Black Ink: 66 (51)
Gray Ink: 253 (252)
HOFm: 160.5 (174)
HOFs: 55 (51)

Gorilla Composite: 4.9 (4.5)

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Larry Doyle, at the age of 49 years 189 days, is the oldest hitter to be inducted on his first ballot.

In 2040, like Hubbell, he was the 6th player chosen in the draft. He went to the former Dodgers, the Jacksonville Sonics.

Doyle is one of 6 players to collect 3000 hits in a career. His 3136 rank him 6th, between Nap Lajoie and Barry Bonds. In his career he won two batting titles, twice led the league in RBI and won a SB title. He also led the league in HRs one season.

Doyle slashed 331/403/564 (20th/32nd/81st) for his career. That gives him a stunning 153 npa OPS+ as a 2Bman. Doule is the career leader for 2Bmen in runs, hits, doubles, HR, and RBI.

He hit 484 HR, all as a 2Bman. That gives him one more HR than Jim Ray Hart and ranks him 58th all time. He is 7th on the career doubles list with 619, one spot ahead of Jim O'Rourke. His 69 career triples places him in a tie at the 24th spot with George Davis and Harry Lumley.

He is also in the 24th spot for career RBI with 1718, two more than Bill Skowron. He ranks 5th in runs scored, one spot ahead of Chipper Jones, with 1820. His 380 SB is 31st most in league history, two fewer than George Sisler.

Doyle broke into the league, at the age of 19, by collecting 205 hits (1 of times in his career) and taking the league batting title with a .364 average. He would bat at least .319 in each of his first 13 seasons. He hit 23 HR, drove in 110 and scored 11 times. He did not win ROY.

In 2043 he slashed 350/426/655 for a nap OPS+ of 184. He hit 35 HR, drove in 127, and scored 112 times, as he won the MVP.

In 2045, 2046, and 2047 he won the MVP each season. He had npa OPS+ numbers of 195, 197 and 195, respectively, in those years.

In 2045 he had career highs in HR (49) runs (136) and RBI (136). In 2047 he led the league in SB with a career high 53.

Doyle retired prior to the 2065 season with 11 All Star appearances to his credit.

His HOFs number is the highest of any player in this, or any of the previous 2 league's history.

Black Ink: 60 (13)
Gray Ink: 191 (138)
HOFm: 376.5 (60)
HOFs: 88 (28)

Gorilla Composite: 7.5 (2.4)

Using the standards in place here and applying them to RL, Doyle falls short of being entered into Cooperstown.

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Gorman Thomas enters his first OOTP HOF.
Carl Hubbell enters his second OOTP HOF.
Larry Doyle has entered all three OOTP HOF.

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