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Old 09-20-2009, 01:44 PM   #1
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The Pastime Boxing Association

As anyone who follows my Pastime Baseball League knows, I love cross-era matchups. I've wanted to do a boxing dynasty for a while, but wasn't sure how to proceed. Ultimately, I've jumped back to the first thought, which is to do exactly what I did with my Pastime Baseball League.

That began with an open draft of players who debuted before 1900 and since 2000. Each year, the rookie draft includes the top players from a random 3 to 5 year period in baseball history.

So that brings me here to the PBA. This will include champions only. There will be more fighters in recent years of course, given the variety of titles. I will use only the WBA, WBC and IBF, though. I hate the 5 milion so-called champions. The older days had one world champion, and as such there will be fewer guys from those days.

The PBA begins with champions from before 1920 and since 2000. I will begin the breakdown of weight classes later, as well as some of the other rules.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:08 PM   #2
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One quick rule (there will be others as I think of them ) - Fighters will enter at the weight class they won their first title at. So, for example, Ray Leonard will enter as a Welterweight, because that was his first world title.
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:24 PM   #3
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You know I'll be looking forward to this, EM.
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:38 PM   #4
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You know I'll be looking forward to this, EM.
Thanks! I just did the heavyweight roster...man, the old guys are going to clean up until some better opposition debuts.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:06 AM   #5
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We open up with running down the list of heavyweights who will be the starting batch in the PBA. They will be joined by miscallaneous tomato cans as stat padders to start things off before an initial tournament for the title. For now, I'm planning on one champion and that's it.

PBA Opening Heavyweight Roster

John L Sullivan
James Corbett
James Jeffries
Marvin Hart
Tommy Burns
Jack Johnson
Jess Willard
Jack Dempsey
Hasim Rahman
John Ruiz
Chris Byrd
Vitali Klitschko
Nikolay Valuev
Oleg Maskaev
Wladimir Klitschko
Ruslan Chagaev
Samuel Peter
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:34 AM   #6
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We move on to take a look at the PBA's opening slate of middleweights. I'll be doing the in-between weight classes, too, but am going through the main classes first.

PBA Opening Middleweights

Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
Bob Fitzsimmons
Stanley Ketchel
Billy Papke
Frank Klaus
George Chip
Al McCoy
Mike O'Dowd
Johnny Wilson
Maselino Masoe
Jermain Taylor
Arthur Abraham
Felix Sturm
Kelly Pavlik
Sebastiak Zbik
Sebastian Sylvester
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:04 PM   #7
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The PBA Welterweight crop has an abundance of names as the Welterweight title has kicked around quite a bit, both pre-1900 and post-2000. While Heavies and Middles have 16 to start, the Welterweights top 30 to begin with.

Paddy Duffy
Billy Smith
Tommy Ryan
William Matthews
Eddie Connolly
James Ferns
Dixie Kidd
Billy Mellody
Mike Sullivan
Waldemar Holberg
Tom McCormick
Matt Wells
Mike Glover
Jack Britton
Ted "Kid" Lewis
Vernon Forrest
Zab Judah
Andrew Lewis
Michele Piccirillo
Ricardo Mayorga
Cory Spinks
Jose Antonio Rivera
Luis Collazo
Ricky Hatton
Carlos Baldomir
Kermit Cintron
Miguel Cotto
Yuriy Nuzhenko
Andre Berto
Antonio Margarito
Joshua Clottey
Isaac Hlatshwayo
Vyachenslav Senchenko
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:53 PM   #8
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At Lightweight, Benny Leonard is the presumptive leader. Remember, guys who have held multiple titles will begin based on the first title they won, so Mayweather and Pacquiao, among others, aren't in this batch as they won in other classes prior to 2000.

Jack McAuliffe
George Lavigne
Joe Gans
Jimmy Britt
Battling Nelson
Ad Wolgast
Willie Ritchie
Freddie Welsh
Benny Leonard
Paulus Moses
Miguel Acosta
Yusuku Kobori
Nate Campbell
Jose Alfaro
Jose Armando Santa Cruz
David Diaz
Leavander Johnson
Lakva Sim
Juan Diaz
Julio Diaz
Javier Jauregui
Raul Balbi
Leonard Dorin
Jose Luis Castillo
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:53 PM   #9
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We move on to the Featherweights, where Barrera and Marquez will lead the more recent crop. Abe Attell is the best of the older members.

Billy Murphy
Young Griffo
George Dixon
Solly Smith
Dave Sullivan
Young Corbett II
Abe Attell
Johnny Kilbane
Manuel Medina
Derrick Gainer
Guty Espadas
Frank Toledo
Marco Antonio Barrera
Chris John
Juan Manuel Marquez
In Jin chi
Humberto Soto
Takashi Koshimoto
Rodolfo Lopez
Valdemir Pereira
Eric Aiken
Robert Guerrero
Jorge Linares
Takahiro Aoh
Elio Rojas
Cristobal Cruz
Yuriorkis Gamboa
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:58 AM   #10
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Starting off with 2 Tomato Cans per champion. So, for example, the heavies start out with 16 past champions and 32 tomato cans. To build up starting records, the autoscheduler will be set for fighters/2*12 months. So for heavies there are 288 fights to be scheduled at random. At that point I'll start setting the monthly schedule that will include the top four in a tournament to determine the initial champion.
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:14 PM   #11
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We move on to the Light-Heavyweight starters.

Jack Root
George Gardner
Jack O'Brien
Battling Levinsky
Georges Carpentier
Mehdi Sahnoune
Silvio Branco
Stipe Drews
Danny Green
Hugo Hernan Garay
Gabriel Campillo
Antonio Tarver
Tomasz Adamek
Chad Dawson
Adrian Diaconu
Jean Pascal
Glen Johnson
Clinton Woods
Tavaris Cloud
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:17 PM   #12
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The introductory bantamweight class:

Jimmy Barry
Terry McGovern
Harry Harris
Harry Forbes
Frankie Neil
Joe Bowker
Jimmy Walsh
Jimmy Reagan
Monte Attell
Kid Williams
Pete Herman
Eidy Moya
Paulie Ayala
Johnney Bredahl
Julio Zarate
Wladimir Sidorenko
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Anselmo Moreno
Nehomar Cermeno
Veeraphol Sahaprom
Hozumi Hasegawa
Rafael Marquez
Joseph Agbeko

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Old 09-24-2009, 11:27 PM   #13
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On the fence as to whether I start with the Jr. classes, too (since there were no fighters pre-1920 in those classes as they didn't exist) or if I wait until a draft batch from the Jr-class era and add post-2000 fighters for those classes then.

Also, for flyweight, there was 1 pre-1920 flyweight champ...Jimmy Wilde!
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Old 09-25-2009, 01:35 AM   #14
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Cruiserweights are all post-2000, since the class didn't exist pre-1920. Decided I'll just start all the classes now.

Jean Marc Mormeck
Valery Brudov
Firat Arslan
Guillermo Jones
Wayne Braithwaite
O'Neil Bell
David Haye
Giacobbe Fragomeni
Kelvin Davis
Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
Steve Cunningham
Tomasz Adamek
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Old 09-25-2009, 01:42 AM   #15
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At Jr. Middleweight, lots of good guys have passed through the class, but they'll qualify at lower classes where they first won titles.

Santiago Samaniego
Alejandro Garcia
Travis Simms
Jose Antonio Rivera
Joachim Alcine
Daniel Santos
Nobuhiro Ishida
Winky Wright
Sergio Mora
Sergio Gabriel Martinez
Verno Phillips
Kassim Ouma
Roman Karmazin
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Old 09-25-2009, 01:46 AM   #16
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Moving on to the Jr. Welter's, including Ricky Hatton.

Randall Bailey
Diosbelys Hurtado
Vivian Harris
Carlos Maussa
Souleymane M'baye
Gavin Rees
Andriy Kotelnik
Marcos Rene Maidana
Amir Khan
Junior Witter
Timothy Bradley
Devon Alexander
Ricky Hatton
Lovemore N'dou
Paul Malinaggi
Juan Urango
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Old 09-25-2009, 01:52 AM   #17
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Jr. Lightweights

Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai
Vicente Mosquera
Edwin Valero
Jorge Linares
Sirimongkol Singwancha
Jesus Chavez
Steve Forbes
Carlos Hernandez
Robbie Peden
Cassius Baloyi
Gairy St. Clair
Malcolm Klassen
Mzonke Fana
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Old 09-26-2009, 06:47 PM   #18
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Jr. Featherweights

Clarence Adams
Yober Ortega
Yoddamrong Sithyodthong
Osaumu Soto
Salim Medjkoune
Mahyar Monshipour
Celestino Caballero
Somask Sithchatchawal
Ricardo Cordoba
Bernard Dunne
Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym
Willie Jorrin
Oscar Larios
Israel Vazquez
Toshiaki Nishioka
Agapito Sanchez
Steve Molitor
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Old 09-26-2009, 08:22 PM   #19
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OK, realizing as I set this up that I'm not going to be able to place guys in the lowest class they won a belt in, as the game doesn't rate them in multiple classes. So I can't let Pacquiao start as a flyweight, for example. That kind of stinks, but I can adapt.
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Old 09-27-2009, 01:58 PM   #20
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Hi EMSoccerCoach,

I'm kind of confused with your last post. The game does rate in multiple weight classes. Manny is rated as a flyweight up through welterweight in the game. Also, if the game doesn't have a certain fighter in a lower weight class (for example, Tracy Patterson doesn't appear in the game as a JFW, his weight class where he won his first title or Jorge Paez as a FW), John Dewey does a great job with fighters throughout Title Bout history in those given weight classes.
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