Historical Player Import Issues

Curve Ball Dave · 03-18-2019, 06:07 PM

The ratings for imported historical players are totally out of whack. Here is Hank Aaron from 1954. Current ratings based on real stats, potential based remaining years of career. Hank was good, he wasn't that good.

Offering this as example. Many other hitters, including some imported pitchers, are 100s across the board. The pitching ratings for imported pitchers seem reasonable, it's the hitting ratings are out of kilter.

Curve Ball Dave · 03-18-2019, 06:15 PM

And when we based the import on his peak seasons suddenly he's a strike out king.

AESP_pres · 03-18-2019, 06:50 PM

Is it just with random import or the same happen when you play a normal historical game? I hope not because it's the only way I play...

Curve Ball Dave · 03-18-2019, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AESP_pres

Is it just with random import or the same happen when you play a normal historical game? I hope not because it's the only way I play...

Imports into a 2019 league. This was never a problem before when I did this in other versions. If I import a whole historical team the ratings seem pretty much in line, but not when I try individual players.

Curve Ball Dave · 03-18-2019, 08:57 PM

Two more examples. Please take note of Grover "Pete" Alexander's hitting ratings. I posted Stan Musial as another example of a Superman.

Highstreet · 03-19-2019, 06:00 AM

Random Debut, neutralized stats, switched to real stats same results. Here are two examples of below average players with inflated power ratings.

Curve Ball Dave · 03-19-2019, 07:20 AM

At least I'm not the only one who noticed the issue. There doesn't appear to be much interest in addressing it, however.

Ktulu · 03-19-2019, 11:10 AM

How and where are you importing the player(s)?

pstrickert · 03-19-2019, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Curve Ball Dave

At least I'm not the only one who noticed the issue. There doesn't appear to be much interest in addressing it, however.

Patience, Dave. Patience.

I'm sure the development team will take a closer look as soon as they can.

Markus Heinsohn · 03-19-2019, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Curve Ball Dave

At least I'm not the only one who noticed the issue. There doesn't appear to be much interest in addressing it, however.

Huh, you just posted this!? We're not magicians

I'll have a look at this tomorrow...

pstrickert · 03-19-2019, 11:15 AM

I just tried it and, yup, there's definitely a problem.

pstrickert · 03-19-2019, 11:18 AM

I get the expected results when I import a player to a historical league. But when I import the same player to a 2019 league, I see what Dave sees -- inflated ratings.

Curve Ball Dave · 03-19-2019, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Huh, you just posted this!? We're not magicians

I'll have a look at this tomorrow...

That's cool. I'm not expecting instant results, just an acknowledgment that the issue is noted and will be looked at.

Markus Heinsohn · 03-20-2019, 02:55 AM

OK, I have looked at this and cannot reproduce this. I have tried the exact same things in a brand new 2019 MLB standard game, and the ratings come out just fine. So whatever it was, it looks to be fixed.

Please test this again with the update we will release later today. Thanks

Curve Ball Dave · 03-20-2019, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

OK, I have looked at this and cannot reproduce this. I have tried the exact same things in a brand new 2019 MLB standard game, and the ratings come out just fine. So whatever it was, it looks to be fixed.

Please test this again with the update we will release later today. Thanks

Ugh, words a user never wants to see.

I'll try after the update and see what happens. I'll post the result.

Curve Ball Dave · 03-20-2019, 01:56 PM

Looks like it's fixed

Hank's ratings, while very high, reflect one of the greatest hitters who ever played so I'd say this is in line. The pitchers aren't super hitters anymore either. Thank you for working on this.

03-18-2019, 06:07 PM	#1
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,271	Historical Player Import Issues The ratings for imported historical players are totally out of whack. Here is Hank Aaron from 1954. Current ratings based on real stats, potential based remaining years of career. Hank was good, he wasn't that good. Offering this as example. Many other hitters, including some imported pitchers, are 100s across the board. The pitching ratings for imported pitchers seem reasonable, it's the hitting ratings are out of kilter. Attached Images __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn. Last edited by Curve Ball Dave; 03-18-2019 at 06:18 PM.

03-18-2019, 06:15 PM	#2
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,271	And when we based the import on his peak seasons suddenly he's a strike out king. Attached Images __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.

03-18-2019, 06:50 PM	#3
AESP_pres Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Province of Quebec Posts: 3,700 Blog Entries: 25	Is it just with random import or the same happen when you play a normal historical game? I hope not because it's the only way I play... __________________ The FGs I did for the Universe Facegen pack if you don't want to download the complete file everytime the pack is updated. The complete set (1871 to 1959) Just the update (1950 to 1959)

03-18-2019, 08:57 PM	#5
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,271	Two more examples. Please take note of Grover "Pete" Alexander's hitting ratings. I posted Stan Musial as another example of a Superman. Attached Images __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn. Last edited by Curve Ball Dave; 03-18-2019 at 09:00 PM.

03-19-2019, 06:00 AM	#6
Highstreet Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 1	Random Debut, neutralized stats, switched to real stats same results. Here are two examples of below average players with inflated power ratings. Last edited by Highstreet; 03-19-2019 at 06:45 AM.

03-19-2019, 07:20 AM	#7
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,271	At least I'm not the only one who noticed the issue. There doesn't appear to be much interest in addressing it, however. __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.

03-19-2019, 11:10 AM	#8
Ktulu Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BC Posts: 4,459	How and where are you importing the player(s)? __________________ "The ice is getting even more thinner, my friend!"

03-19-2019, 11:15 AM	#11
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,738	I just tried it and, yup, there's definitely a problem.

03-19-2019, 11:18 AM	#12
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,738	I get the expected results when I import a player to a historical league. But when I import the same player to a 2019 league, I see what Dave sees -- inflated ratings.

03-20-2019, 02:55 AM	#14
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,738	OK, I have looked at this and cannot reproduce this. I have tried the exact same things in a brand new 2019 MLB standard game, and the ratings come out just fine. So whatever it was, it looks to be fixed. Please test this again with the update we will release later today. Thanks __________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android Last edited by Markus Heinsohn; 03-20-2019 at 02:58 AM.

03-20-2019, 01:56 PM	#16
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,271	Looks like it's fixed Hank's ratings, while very high, reflect one of the greatest hitters who ever played so I'd say this is in line. The pitchers aren't super hitters anymore either. Thank you for working on this. Attached Images __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.