The XML Suggestion Thread (June 15 XML File Version) - Page 3

jbsnadb · 06-20-2006, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbsnadb

Guess I'm the only one working on this...oh well!

Something's missing here...

[189-11391] the batter swing from his heels...
[15-7722] scoring is Whiteway...

The situation? Runners of first and third, no outs. After the play, the run has scored, the bases are clear, and there are two outs. Oops, checking the log, it's the 1-6-3 DP bug.

Same thing happens with [189-11370] (1-4-3 DP).

jbsnadb · 06-21-2006, 01:13 AM

Another (n) missing its (l) and a missing word:

[348-14488] called strike three!
Fullerton (batter) just watched it go by...(n) Weier rung him up a
[314-8834} heater knee high...

Obvoiusly, the (n) should be an (nl) and the line should read...

"Weier (pitcher) rung him up with a...

jbsnadb · 06-21-2006, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbsnadb

I know it's been mentioned before, but I don't think it has with a code tag:

[314-8850] straight fastball fastball!

Found another, same catagory, different line...

[314-6428] beautiful fastball fastball!

tysok · 06-21-2006, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbsnadb

Guess I'm the only one working on this...oh well!

I've handed off the torch to another....

I still see a lot of problems I found in the original still in the 6/15 patch, so haven't bothered to go searching again so far. Don't blame anyone, that was a LOT of posts with a lot of data, and some of it I found later (as I learned more about what the tokens would end up looking like) wasn't bad.

It's a whole lot better than the first 4 games I watched before I started that, so it was worth it. Now Jb must walk through the fire pit, and see if his eyes adjust equally well after debugging xml code.

I haven't noticed a whole lot through the games I've been watching, but admittedly I've spent more time looking at the wholesale godlike endurance for starting pitchers than I have the pbp text.

jbsnadb · 06-21-2006, 02:55 AM

Luckily, these things have been jumping out at me, and I don't have to look very hard. And, to be fair, there are a great deal fewer "errors" then there were before the 6/15 release. I'm just rying to pick up the pieces that may have been missed when looking over TENS OF THOUSANDS of lines of text.

I'm not a programmer, and not a beta tester...just a guy with a lot of time to play a game looking to make it better than it already is.

Ian Collins · 06-21-2006, 07:31 AM

Here's the strange "hiding third baseman play":
[145-7005] bouncing ball...
[148-9333] over to Youkilis at third......
[200-7201] someone should be there.... (where's he gone? He was there a minute ago..)
[176-7082] Youkilis fields it on the hop......
Perhaps he was hiding behind the third base umpire.......

Another instance where the article a/an should be included with the pitch description:
Brown fanned on a [317-8936] off-speed pitch

tysok · 06-21-2006, 10:23 AM

Found something, but don't have any numbers. It's jsut in game text:

Bumgartner sees the runner heading home, here's the throw...
Bumgartner cuts down Burke at home...
Strong throw by Craig Bumgartner...
two down.
a slight chance to get two here...
the throw to Villacian who covers first base...
that's going to be REAL close...
SAFE!

Villacian is the catcher who would have been throwing to first.

tysok · 06-21-2006, 03:24 PM

2 things wrong in this one play

Bob Byars swings...
Byars swings...
chopper to short...
he sets, fires to first...
bad throw...
in the dirt...
saved nicely by Meehan.
(one) down.
The top of the second is over...

It really is over... despite an erroneous reporting to the contrary. If Byars had only swung once he may have hitten it harder.

tysok · 06-21-2006, 03:33 PM

a big hack...
high flyball...
to left center...
O'Breslin sprints for it...
Padrila cleared the bags with one big swing!

It was a solo home run... overzealous announcer there.

tysok · 06-21-2006, 06:00 PM

I know that it's been reported that the announced says they went deep back to back when there was a strike out, ground out, or whatever in between...... but I just had an occasion: Batter hits a homer. Next batter grounds out. Next batter homers, says they went back to back. The next batter hits a homer... nothing said.

It's not saying back to back when it really IS back to back.

tysok · 06-21-2006, 06:10 PM

the batter offers at it...
changeup flared...
toward shallow centerfield...
Nicanor Campero (CF) races back...
base hit for Malachi Barone...
Campero gets there to cut it off...
Barone rounds first...
he's trying for two...
Burke goes to third base.

First, flare into shallow center and the CF is racing back... no wonder he didn't make the play. Then he "gets there" to cut it off... should hope so it was flared. Then there was no end to that play, Barone rounds first and tries for two.... we assume he was successful since that's where he now is.

tysok · 06-21-2006, 06:13 PM

Ho hum, this game is a nightmare for your pbp text.

down the first base line...
that's trouble for Okada (1B)...
through into right for a hit...
cut off by Okada (1B)...
nicely done...

If it's into right for a hit the 1B is not going to be able to "cut it off".

jbsnadb · 06-21-2006, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tysok

Ho hum, this game is a nightmare for your pbp text.

down the first base line...
that's trouble for Okada (1B)...
through into right for a hit...
cut off by Okada (1B)...
nicely done...

If it's into right for a hit the 1B is not going to be able to "cut it off".

Maybe he was cutting off the throw back into the infield.

If you run the debugger, you'll be able to let the writers know where they can find these text gems.

M's rule · 06-21-2006, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbsnadb

Back for more, starting with a shutout news item:

[22-14903] ...of the Victoria Capitals against the Bellevile. He fashioned a...

The item is only calling for the city name. Either the "the" needs to be removed, or the token should be changed for the team nickname or the full name (cit + nickname).

Fixed this one by changing the token.

M's rule · 06-21-2006, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbsnadb

Another (n) missing its (l) and a missing word:

[348-14488] called strike three!
Fullerton (batter) just watched it go by...(n) Weier rung him up a
[314-8834} heater knee high...

Obvoiusly, the (n) should be an (nl) and the line should read...

"Weier (pitcher) rung him up with a...

Already caught the (nl) problem, and I used "on" instead of "with." Plus, the right verb here is "rang," nut "rung." (Fixed a number of these verb errors in other places as well.)

M's rule · 06-21-2006, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Collins

Here's the strange "hiding third baseman play":
[145-7005] bouncing ball...
[148-9333] over to Youkilis at third......
[200-7201] someone should be there.... (where's he gone? He was there a minute ago..)
[176-7082] Youkilis fields it on the hop......
Perhaps he was hiding behind the third base umpire.......

Another instance where the article a/an should be included with the pitch description:
Brown fanned on a [317-8936] off-speed pitch

Deleted object 7201 and looked at the objects in category 200 to be sure others didn't lead to the same problem. (I found another one to get rid of.)

Not sure what can be done about the a/an problem. I don't think embedding the article in the pitch description token is a good idea, because there'll be lots of times when you just want the name of the pitch without an article in front of it.

tysok · 06-22-2006, 01:25 PM

Nothing wrong with this except it doesn't make sense unless you study what happened.
Says:
Slider low hit in the air...
out to shallow center...

The pitch was a slider low... hit in the air. Looks like he "low hit" the ball in the air.

Sorry, haven't turned the debugger back on yet.

tysok · 06-22-2006, 01:57 PM

Jowett one hops it to second...
the throw is high!
is nowhere near it...
charge with an error...

First the throw can't both be a one hopper and high.
It also looks like the last two lines were supposed to mention a persons name.

I'll go turn on the debugger after this game finishes.

Ian Collins · 06-22-2006, 05:09 PM

[168-7934] Hee Seop Choi swings...
chopper to short...
he sets, fires to first...
bad throw...
in the dirt...
saved nicely by Hillenbrand.
(one) down.

The brackets should be removed unless Text_Object 7934 is called when the outs are more than one.

jbsnadb · 06-22-2006, 08:41 PM

More crazy fielding stuff...

[246-12292] waiting for it is Hansen (1b)...
Herrera (LF) is going for it as well...
but he's waived off by Hansen...

The line before was "on the infield, right side..." Herrera had no business calling for that one, since he was about 200 ft. away.

06-21-2006, 01:13 AM	#42
jbsnadb All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,098	Another (n) missing its (l) and a missing word: [348-14488] called strike three! Fullerton (batter) just watched it go by...(n) Weier rung him up a [314-8834} heater knee high... Obvoiusly, the (n) should be an (nl) and the line should read... "Weier (pitcher) rung him up with a...

06-21-2006, 02:55 AM	#45
jbsnadb All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,098	Luckily, these things have been jumping out at me, and I don't have to look very hard. And, to be fair, there are a great deal fewer "errors" then there were before the 6/15 release. I'm just rying to pick up the pieces that may have been missed when looking over TENS OF THOUSANDS of lines of text. I'm not a programmer, and not a beta tester...just a guy with a lot of time to play a game looking to make it better than it already is.

06-21-2006, 07:31 AM	#46
Ian Collins Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: England Posts: 49	Here's the strange "hiding third baseman play": [145-7005] bouncing ball... [148-9333] over to Youkilis at third...... [200-7201] someone should be there.... (where's he gone? He was there a minute ago..) [176-7082] Youkilis fields it on the hop...... Perhaps he was hiding behind the third base umpire....... Another instance where the article a/an should be included with the pitch description: Brown fanned on a [317-8936] off-speed pitch

06-21-2006, 10:23 AM	#47
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,925	Found something, but don't have any numbers. It's jsut in game text: Bumgartner sees the runner heading home, here's the throw... Bumgartner cuts down Burke at home... Strong throw by Craig Bumgartner... two down. a slight chance to get two here... the throw to Villacian who covers first base... that's going to be REAL close... SAFE! Villacian is the catcher who would have been throwing to first.

06-21-2006, 03:24 PM	#48
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,925	2 things wrong in this one play Bob Byars swings... Byars swings... chopper to short... he sets, fires to first... bad throw... in the dirt... saved nicely by Meehan. (one) down. The top of the second is over... It really is over... despite an erroneous reporting to the contrary. If Byars had only swung once he may have hitten it harder.

06-21-2006, 03:33 PM	#49
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,925	a big hack... high flyball... to left center... O'Breslin sprints for it... Padrila cleared the bags with one big swing! It was a solo home run... overzealous announcer there.

06-21-2006, 06:00 PM	#50
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,925	I know that it's been reported that the announced says they went deep back to back when there was a strike out, ground out, or whatever in between...... but I just had an occasion: Batter hits a homer. Next batter grounds out. Next batter homers, says they went back to back. The next batter hits a homer... nothing said. It's not saying back to back when it really IS back to back.

06-21-2006, 06:10 PM	#51
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,925	the batter offers at it... changeup flared... toward shallow centerfield... Nicanor Campero (CF) races back... base hit for Malachi Barone... Campero gets there to cut it off... Barone rounds first... he's trying for two... Burke goes to third base. First, flare into shallow center and the CF is racing back... no wonder he didn't make the play. Then he "gets there" to cut it off... should hope so it was flared. Then there was no end to that play, Barone rounds first and tries for two.... we assume he was successful since that's where he now is.

06-21-2006, 06:13 PM	#52
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,925	Ho hum, this game is a nightmare for your pbp text. down the first base line... that's trouble for Okada (1B)... through into right for a hit... cut off by Okada (1B)... nicely done... If it's into right for a hit the 1B is not going to be able to "cut it off".

06-22-2006, 01:25 PM	#57
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,925	Nothing wrong with this except it doesn't make sense unless you study what happened. Says: Slider low hit in the air... out to shallow center... The pitch was a slider low... hit in the air. Looks like he "low hit" the ball in the air. Sorry, haven't turned the debugger back on yet.

06-22-2006, 01:57 PM	#58
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,925	Jowett one hops it to second... the throw is high! is nowhere near it... charge with an error... First the throw can't both be a one hopper and high. It also looks like the last two lines were supposed to mention a persons name. I'll go turn on the debugger after this game finishes.

06-22-2006, 05:09 PM	#59
Ian Collins Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: England Posts: 49	[168-7934] Hee Seop Choi swings... chopper to short... he sets, fires to first... bad throw... in the dirt... saved nicely by Hillenbrand. (one) down. The brackets should be removed unless Text_Object 7934 is called when the outs are more than one.

06-22-2006, 08:41 PM	#60
jbsnadb All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,098	More crazy fielding stuff... [246-12292] waiting for it is Hansen (1b)... Herrera (LF) is going for it as well... but he's waived off by Hansen... The line before was "on the infield, right side..." Herrera had no business calling for that one, since he was about 200 ft. away.