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Old 10-19-2019, 11:55 AM   #81
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a) WAR is wins above replacement.
b) WAR is a framework.
c) WAR presents the performance of a player into a single number.
d) WAR is limited to the data points it considers.
e) WAR is limited by the bias in the data.
f) WAR is not all-encompassing.

So, what does all that [stuff] mean?
http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/inde...at_war_is_not/

A pretty thorough look at what WAR is, and isn't
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Old 10-25-2019, 03:09 PM   #82
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Could someone who understands WAR please explain it to me? As in, please explain the formula and its parts and how each one is calculated. And then, practically, could you use someone like Mike Trout and his real numbers to show how his WAR is calculated?
a) batting
b) baserunning
c) runs lost due to double plays hit into
d) fielding
e) Positional Adjustment
f) Replacement Level Adjustment

batting - AB, BB, HBP, SF, 1B, 2B, 3B, HR,
baserunning - SB, CS
fielding - ultimate zone rating(defense)
Positional Adjustment - Plus for positions like shortstop, second base and center field, minus for positions like first base and right field.

Mike Trout has a decent average, high power, high runs scored, high OPS, high RBI, and good defence, and a good position which contributes to his high WAR

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Old 10-25-2019, 06:42 PM   #83
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Mike Trout has a decent average, high power, high runs scored, high OPS, high RBI, and good defence, and a good position which contributes to his high WAR
WAR does not consider RBI at all

Nor runs at all.

Nor OPS. Though his ability to avoid getting out and power impact his WAR

Nor batting average directly. Just hits and plate appearances.
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Old 10-25-2019, 07:36 PM   #84
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WAR does not consider RBI at all

Nor runs at all.

Nor OPS. Though his ability to avoid getting out and power impact his WAR

Nor batting average directly. Just hits and plate appearances.
It takes 1B 2B 3B and HR into account.

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Here, "AB" is the number of at bats, "BB" the number of base on balls ("uBB" is unintentional base on balls and "IBB" is intentional base on balls), HBP the number of times hit by pitch, "SF" the number of sacrifice flies, "SH" the number of sacrifice hits, "1B" the number of singles, "2B" the number of doubles, "3B" the number of triples, "HR" the number of home runs, "SB" the number of stolen bases, and "CS" the number of caught stealing.[13] {\displaystyle \alpha _{1}}\alpha _{1} to {\displaystyle \alpha _{8}}\alpha _{8} represent weighting coefficients. Baseball Reference eliminates pitcher batting results from its data, computes linear weights and wOBA coefficients for each league, then scales the values for each league and season.[13]

The positional adjustment is a value dependent on the player's position: +10.0 for a catcher, −10 for a first baseman, +3.0 for a second baseman, +2.0 for a third baseman, +7.5 for a shortstop, −7.5 for a left fielder, +2.5 for a center fielder, −7.5 for a right fielder, and −15.0 for a designated hitter.[13] These values are set assuming 1,350 innings played (150 games of 9 innings).[13] A player's positional adjustment is the sum of the positional adjustment for each position played by the player scaled to the number of games played by the player at that position, normalized to 1,350 innings.[13]
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if you hit singles, doubles, triples and HR, normally it will resullt in RBI and OPS.
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It takes 1B 2B 3B and HR into account.

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Here, "AB" is the number of at bats, "BB" the number of base on balls ("uBB" is unintentional base on balls and "IBB" is intentional base on balls), HBP the number of times hit by pitch, "SF" the number of sacrifice flies, "SH" the number of sacrifice hits, "1B" the number of singles, "2B" the number of doubles, "3B" the number of triples, "HR" the number of home runs, "SB" the number of stolen bases, and "CS" the number of caught stealing.[13] {\displaystyle \alpha _{1}}\alpha _{1} to {\displaystyle \alpha _{8}}\alpha _{8} represent weighting coefficients. Baseball Reference eliminates pitcher batting results from its data, computes linear weights and wOBA coefficients for each league, then scales the values for each league and season.[13]

The positional adjustment is a value dependent on the player's position: +10.0 for a catcher, −10 for a first baseman, +3.0 for a second baseman, +2.0 for a third baseman, +7.5 for a shortstop, −7.5 for a left fielder, +2.5 for a center fielder, −7.5 for a right fielder, and −15.0 for a designated hitter.[13] These values are set assuming 1,350 innings played (150 games of 9 innings).[13] A player's positional adjustment is the sum of the positional adjustment for each position played by the player scaled to the number of games played by the player at that position, normalized to 1,350 innings.[13]
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if you hit singles, doubles, triples and HR, normally it will resullt in RBI and OPS.
Sure.

Just didn't want anyone to be confused about what WAR looks at.

2 players with the same singles, doubles, triples, HR's, and *everything* else, but different RBI and run totals will have the same WAR
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