MLB Quick Start with Historical Players

[henry296]

If I use the 2017 MLB quick start and select the option for historical rookies and random debut, would my draft class contain the historical players? I realize I would probably run out in about 25-30 years, but that is ok. Would I also ended up with two versions of the current players?

[sprague]

Originally Posted by henry296

If I use the 2017 MLB quick start and select the option for historical rookies and random debut, would my draft class contain the historical players? I realize I would probably run out in about 25-30 years, but that is ok. Would I also ended up with two versions of the current players?

I did a test of this myself and the game kept crashing for some Odd reason.
Try it out.
The first few drafts you have to delete the actual draft class on creatin day, then move the draft one day forward to let the historical rookies get created.

It worked in 17. Maybe you will have more luck than me.

[henry296]

I did get it to work last night. There is a place where you need to put the location of the historical database on one of the settings.

However, I'm not sure I like because these rookies will come into the league major league ready or almost because it is based on their debut.

At one point, I thought a database might exist where the historical players were adjusted to be 18 years old. Does that exist?

[Painmantle]

You need to use an older Spritze DataBase

If you want alternate Historical players alos (International, Negro etc...) Us a HighSchool version, if you just want regular professional players just use any Spritze database. You just need to set the propre database path in game. I usually put the database in it's own folder inside the ootp stats folder

http://wiki.ootpmods.com/drupal/Databases


I just started a league with Gambo/Spritze DB for OOTP 14 (Corrected) = SpritzeOOTP16HighSchoolStats

it brings players in at their professional debut as opposed to their ML debut And it works just fine, but it's won't include players who have come into the league in the last 4 years or so, it's not perfect but you will see many more players who need development in the draft pool

a couple of suggestions

set the import parameters to neutralized stats and entire careers in advanced options of step 1

in step 3 make sure you are using OOTP development engine

Hope this helps

[crawdad5000]

Originally Posted by Painmantle

You need to use an older Spritze DataBase
I just started a league with Gambo/Spritze DB for OOTP 14 (Corrected) = SpritzeOOTP16HighSchoolStats

it brings players in at their professional debut as opposed to their ML debut And it works just fine, but it's won't include players who have come into the league in the last 4 years or so, it's not perfect but you will see many more players who need development in the draft pool

a couple of suggestions

set the import parameters to neutralized stats and entire careers in advanced options of step 1

in step 3 make sure you are using OOTP development engine

Hope this helps

So, you can start a modern quickstart and have historical players come in to you universe later? He should be fine with the last four years or so for players since he's using the 2017 quickstart, right? I mean most are already there in the game? If this does work I'm there. One more cool way to play the "what if" game.

I would think you would want to delete the history of the league before it starts so historical players don't show up twice. Like Babe Ruth and his 714 HR's showing up in 2020 and hitting another 714.

[crawdad5000]

Originally Posted by sprague

I did a test of this myself and the game kept crashing for some Odd reason.
Try it out.
The first few drafts you have to delete the actual draft class on creatin day, then move the draft one day forward to let the historical rookies get created.

It worked in 17. Maybe you will have more luck than me.

Is this based off a June draft? Can you move the draft to December and get the same result before the pool is generated?

[mgom27]

I like the idea but deleting don't like but maybe a Feeder would work better. I can load Default Template and get Mike Trout as a Rookie.

[crawdad5000]

Originally Posted by Painmantle

You need to use an older Spritze DataBase

If you want alternate Historical players alos (International, Negro etc...) Us a HighSchool version, if you just want regular professional players just use any Spritze database. You just need to set the propre database path in game. I usually put the database in it's own folder inside the ootp stats folder

http://wiki.ootpmods.com/drupal/Databases


I just started a league with Gambo/Spritze DB for OOTP 14 (Corrected) = SpritzeOOTP16HighSchoolStats

it brings players in at their professional debut as opposed to their ML debut And it works just fine, but it's won't include players who have come into the league in the last 4 years or so, it's not perfect but you will see many more players who need development in the draft pool

a couple of suggestions

set the import parameters to neutralized stats and entire careers in advanced options of step 1

in step 3 make sure you are using OOTP development engine

Hope this helps

I just tested this using the settings you suggested above. I simmed through 2021. I'm not sure about the results. I changed the draft to 1 Dec and had the players pool available from 1876-2016 using spritzes corrected DB. It seems most of the players (90%?) are generated high school players from the DB. There were a couple of real historical rookies.

CC. Sabathia and R.A. Dickey, who both retired in 2018, showed up as 20 year olds in the 2019 draft. J. T. Snow retired in 2006 and showed up in the 2019 draft. Snow won ROY for the Phillies in 2021. His stats didn't add to his original stats, which is a good thing. They are treated as two different players. What I don't like is the majority of real historical rookies have all retire within the last 10 years or so.

I tried changing the parameters of the pool players from 1900-1950 and it seemed to just generate more made up high school players. I didn't see any real historic rookies in that draft.

[mgom27]

Yes in Offseason would give you Historical guys but really doesn't just got Fictional Guys for 12-1 Draft.