I ran a 1901-2016 sim - Roger Hornsby was a monster

IncognitoNL · 03-22-2017, 04:55 AM

I ran a simple sim, starting in 1901, with no minors, no recalc, no Spring training and default settings otherwise. After a century, there isn't a shadow of a doubt about the best player in this universe:

All-Star in every one of his 22 seasons, 19-time MVP, 8 Triple Crowns. In his 31 World Series games, he hit .445/.531/.714. His career WAR of 221.57 has never been approached (#2 Willie Mays has 162.44).

I would love to see your examples of dominant players throughout your sims!

Orcin · 03-22-2017, 08:44 AM

Rogers Hornsby was pretty darn good in real life too.

IncognitoNL · 03-22-2017, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

Rogers Hornsby was pretty darn good in real life too.

Obviously! Still, this specimen has even the real life Hornsby beat, with, among other stats, a career 198 wRC+, vs. 173 in real life.

It's too bad that he missed the first half of the 1936 season due to post-concussion syndrome (out for 9 months starting the previous August). Still, hitting .403 in your final half-season, aged 40: not a bad way to finish.

alkeiper · 03-23-2017, 09:53 AM

Hornsby was a fantastic hitter. In today's universe I don't think there is a chance he would remain a middle infielder. I think he would have a similar career path to Miguel Cabrera, who also came up as a shortstop but ended up moving to 3B, LF, 1B.

eck.nicholas · 03-23-2017, 12:26 PM

Only 98.1% voted him in the HOF? Man...you'd think he was a unanimous 100% vote with those numbers.

Dargone · 03-28-2017, 05:56 PM

Holy $%*@! That's one of the best careers that I've ever seen

Willie McCubby · 03-31-2017, 07:21 PM

Whoa! Hornsby has just enough shelves in the trophy case to hold them all.

Syd Thrift · 04-06-2017, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by alkeiper

Hornsby was a fantastic hitter. In today's universe I don't think there is a chance he would remain a middle infielder. I think he would have a similar career path to Miguel Cabrera, who also came up as a shortstop but ended up moving to 3B, LF, 1B.

To that point, during the teens and twenties there weren't nearly as many double plays as there are now and as such second base was a place where you could kind of hide an iffy fielder. Third base on the other hand was a much more defensive oriented position; you not only needs a great arm, since you had to deal with bad infields and the like a lot, you needed good hands as well. In fact, a big part of why you don't see many pre-WW2 third sackers in the Hall of Fame is because of that dynamic.

The Game · 04-06-2017, 09:15 AM

I have Rajah in just about every league i run. in the ABF he had a CEI at age 30 and still had 516 HR.

In my EBL vs MLB, Rush Booroojian is a clone of Rajah.

03-22-2017, 04:55 AM	#1
IncognitoNL Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 41	I ran a 1901-2016 sim - Rogers Hornsby was a monster I ran a simple sim, starting in 1901, with no minors, no recalc, no Spring training and default settings otherwise. After a century, there isn't a shadow of a doubt about the best player in this universe: All-Star in every one of his 22 seasons, 19-time MVP, 8 Triple Crowns. In his 31 World Series games, he hit .445/.531/.714. His career WAR of 221.57 has never been approached (#2 Willie Mays has 162.44). I would love to see your examples of dominant players throughout your sims! Last edited by IncognitoNL; 03-23-2017 at 10:13 AM.

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eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	Only 98.1% voted him in the HOF? Man...you'd think he was a unanimous 100% vote with those numbers. __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves

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Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Holy $%*@! That's one of the best careers that I've ever seen __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

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The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,807	I have Rajah in just about every league i run. in the ABF he had a CEI at age 30 and still had 516 HR. In my EBL vs MLB, Rush Booroojian is a clone of Rajah. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

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Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,798	Rogers Hornsby was pretty darn good in real life too.

03-23-2017, 09:53 AM	#4
alkeiper Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 82	Hornsby was a fantastic hitter. In today's universe I don't think there is a chance he would remain a middle infielder. I think he would have a similar career path to Miguel Cabrera, who also came up as a shortstop but ended up moving to 3B, LF, 1B.

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Willie McCubby Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 38	Whoa! Hornsby has just enough shelves in the trophy case to hold them all.