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05-24-2006, 05:59 PM | #81 |
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I should have known not to question your omnipotent knowledge. Henry Cimoli is indeed a LW. On page 20 of Chance he’s credited with fighting Willie Pep twice. On page 46 of Cold Service he’s credited with knocking Pep down once but never hitting him the rest of the fight. On page 43 of Widow’s Walk it acknowledges that Cimoli boxed as a LW and it showed in the scar tissue around his eyes and the way his nose had thickened. His T-shirt showed how muscular he still was. Austin |
05-24-2006, 06:09 PM | #82 |
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Thank you, problem solved. My fighters were retired, when I changed them to active they all become ranked. Austin |
05-24-2006, 06:22 PM | #83 | |
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Hal Fieberling also appeared in numerous films using this name and also the name Hal Baylor. I'll soon provide about a dozen tomato cans based on these. Prior to Kirkwood signing as Palooka in 1946 there was a 1934 film with Jimmy Durante as Knobby Walsh, Stu Erwin as Joe Palooka, and William Armstrong as Joe's dad Pete. Bear |
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05-25-2006, 08:20 AM | #84 | |
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The picks are great. So is the info on the boxing comics from toonopedia. Romano reported that there was a nation wide search for the person ro play Palooka. Kirkwood didn't enter, but won because his mom sent an entry in. Bear |
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05-25-2006, 08:32 AM | #85 | |
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When I first was reading Spenser I made the same assumption about Cimoli being a feather. We tend to forget that in the Pep/Saddler era club fighters were still in their hayday. Guys fought often and at catchweights. Pep's loss, sandwiched in between two incredible undefeated streaks, was a catchweight affair with Sammy Angott. I've never seen film of Angott but envision him as a lightweight version of Ernie Terrell with the ever so crowd pleasing jab and grab style. (For younger audiances think of John Ruiz style in a lightweight body.) Bear |
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05-26-2006, 07:29 AM | #86 |
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The 1934 film Palooka had Jimmy Durante .... Knobby Walsh/Junior manager. It was mainly a comic vehicle for him.
Stuart Erwin .... Joe Palooka Robert Armstrong .... Pete 'Goodtime' Palooka William Cagney .... Al 'Mac' McSwatt Franklyn Ardell .... Doc Wise Tom Dugan .... Whitey, Joe's Trainer Fred 'Snowflake' Toones .... Smokey (as Snowflake) rest of cast listed alphabetically: Brooks Benedict .... Slugs, Blacky's Associate (uncredited) Stanley Fields .... Blacky Wolfe (uncredited) Kit Guard .... McSwatt's Handler (uncredited) Al Hill .... Dynamite Wilson (uncredited) Ivan Linow .... Fourth Fixed Fighter (uncredited) Wheeler Oakman .... Rafferty (uncredited) Bob Perry .... Referee (uncredited) Rolfe Sedan .... Alphonse (uncredited) Harry Tenbrook .... McSwatt's Handler (uncredited) Guinn 'Big Boy' Williams .... Slats (uncredited) Norman Willis .... Second Fixed Fighter (uncredited) Later in the 30s a # of two-reelers were made with the cast of: Robert Norton .... Joe Palooka Shemp Howard .... Knobby Walsh I'll skip this one From the first film we have: JoeS.E. Palooka HW S8 Bear Last edited by bear; 05-26-2006 at 07:31 AM. |
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In the 1938 film Palooka
Robert Armstrong .... Pete 'Goodtime' Palooka William Cagney .... Al 'Mac' McSwatt William Cagney is Jimmy Cagney's look-alike brother making his screen debut. Pete Palooka MW S11 Al 'Mac' McSwatt HW S9 Bear Last edited by bear; 05-26-2006 at 07:41 AM. |
05-26-2006, 07:40 AM | #88 |
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Al Hill .... Dynamite Wilson (uncredited)
Ivan Linow .... Fourth Fixed Fighter (uncredited) Guinn 'Big Boy' Williams .... Slats (uncredited) Norman Willis .... Second Fixed Fighter (uncredited) Brooks Benedict .... Slugs, Blacky's Associate (uncredited) Give us Dynamite Wilson HW S5 Willi Norman HW B1 Ivan Fixx HW B1 Slugs Benedict HW S1 Slatts Guinn HW S1 Bear |
05-26-2006, 08:17 AM | #89 |
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Joe Palooka, Champ (1946)
IMDB gives Directed by Reginald Le Borg Writing credits (in alphabetical order) Hal E. Chester story Albert DePina (as Albert de Pina) Cy Endfield (as Cyril Endfield) Ham Fisher characters Boxing cast Leon Errol .... Knobby Walsh Joe Kirkwood Jr. .... Joe Palooka Eduardo Ciannelli .... Florini (Hood and manager stole Al Costa from Walsh) Elisha Cook Jr. .... Eugene Warren Hymer .... Ira Eyler Sam McDaniel .... Smoky (handler for Walsh) Lou Nova .... Al Costa Eddie Gribbon .... Louie, the Louisiana Lion J. Farrell MacDonald .... Long-Count Bowman John Kelly .... Sam Roger Daniel .... Stevie Palooka Sam Hayes .... Radio Announcer Dick Fishell .... Radio Announcer Philip Van Zandt .... Freddie Wells (as Phil Van Zandt) Emmett Vogan .... Fight Commissioner Michael Mark .... Herman (Pop) Palooka Joe Louis .... Himself Henry Armstrong .... Himself Ceferino García .... Himself Manuel Ángeles Ortiz .... Himself (as Manuel Ortiz) Jimmy McLarnin .... Himself - Referee Jack Roper .... Waldo, the Wyoming Wildcat Alexander Laszlo .... Aladar rest of cast listed alphabetically: Harry Danning .... Punchy (uncredited) Pat Flaherty .... Patrick Burke, Referee (uncredited) John Indrisano .... Fight Referee (uncredited) Pat McKee .... Franki Altri's Handler (uncredited) Bob Perry .... Timekeeper (uncredited) fight manager and promoter Knobby Walsh (Leon Errol) trains Al Costa (Lou Nova) to fight for the heavyweight championship, but gangster Florini (Eduardo Ciannelli), with the help of his henchmen, Lefty (Joe Sawyer) and Curly (Russ Vincent), takes the budding champion away from him. Knobby begins the search for a new fighter by taking four fighters and handler Smoky (Sam McDaniel) on a tour of tank towns. He finds Joe Palooka (Joe Kirkwood), a natural boxer, in a small town. Anne Howe (Elyse Knox), a society girl passing through town, helps persuade the shy-and-gentle farm boy to sign a contract with Knobby. Joe wins a string of sensational matches and, while training for the championship match with the recently-crowned champion Costa, Anne invites him to a party where her snobby society friend Ronnie Brewster (Robert Kent) makes a fool of Joe. The latter's training suffers as a result of this and estrangements from Knobby and Anne, but he rebuffs the efforts of Florini to get him to throw the fight. Al Costa HW S10 Bear |
05-26-2006, 08:19 AM | #90 |
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From Joe Palooka, Champ (1946)
Louie "the Louisiana Lion" Lyons HW S4 Ira Eyler HW B4 Waldo "the Wyoming Wildcat" Wild HW S5 Long-Count Bowman HW S3 Bear |
05-26-2006, 08:22 AM | #91 |
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Also have
Frankie Altri HW B5 Punchy Danning HW B1 Bear |
05-26-2006, 08:28 AM | #92 |
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Gentleman Joe Palooka (1946)
Has Hymer, Gribbon, and Roper listed as sparring partners. Won't redo them. Cast members Freddie Steele .... Himself John Indrisano .... Sparring Partner (uncredited) Stubby Kruger .... Fighter (uncredited) Jack Shea .... Fighter (uncredited) Give us Stubby Shea HW S2 Jack Kruger HW S1 Bear |
05-26-2006, 08:34 AM | #93 |
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Joe Palooka in the Knockout (1947)
Danny Morton .... Pusher Moore ?? was he a fighter?? I didn't rate him since I wasn't certain of his role. Sonny Chorre .... Cardona (uncredited) Meyer Grace .... Fighter (uncredited) Chorre's Cardona is a recurring character. Mort Meyer HW B4 Sonny Cardona HW S8 Bear |
05-26-2006, 08:40 AM | #94 |
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Joe Palooka in Fighting Mad (1948) has
Eddie Gribbon .... Scranton Dewey Robinson .... Fighter Ted Pavelec .... Sparring Partner and gives us Pavel Robinson HW B1 Dewey Veleck HW S1 Eddie Scranton HW B4 Bear |
05-26-2006, 08:48 AM | #95 |
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Joe Palooka in Winner Take All (1948)
'Big' Ben Moroz .... Bobo Walker Hal Baylor .... Sammy Talbot (listed as Hal Fieberling) IMBD gives a bio for Baylor birth name Hal brittan height 5' 4" Held the California Heavyweight Boxing Championship, posting a professional record of 52-5. Made landings on Saipan and Tinian as a Marine in World War II. His great-great grandfather was the original founder of Baylor University. Attended Washington State on an athletic scholarship. Baylor appeared in numerous boxing roles in films and TV, Bobo Walker HW S8 Sammy Talbot HW s7 Bear |
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Joe Palooka in the Big Fight (1949)
lists Ted Pavelec .... Tiny, a fighter (Tiny Morrow?) a later film lists a Tiny Morrow and he'll appear there. Bear |
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Cardona reappears in
Joe Palooka in the Counterpunch (1949) Bear |
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Joe Palooka Meets Humphrey (1950)
has James Gleason .... Knobby Walsh 1950 Robert Coogan .... Humphrey Pennyworth Russ Kaplan .... Johnson and gives Humphrey Pennyworth HW S8 Russ Johnson HW S5 Joe Palooka in Humphrey Takes a Chance (1950) adds no one, but is Leon Errol's last appearence as Walsh |
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Joe Palooka in the Squared Circle (1950)
Has James Gleason as Knobby Walsh. Also has Hal Baylor .... Pinky Thompson (as Hal Fieberling) John Frederick .... Tiny Morrow (as John Merrick) Gives Pinky Thompson HW S6 Tiny Morrow HW S5 Bear |
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Joe Palooka in Triple Cross (1951)
does not list an opponent. Kirkwood reprised his role as Joe on TV. "The Joe Palooka Story" (1954) [TV-Series] Joe Kirkwood Jr. .... Joe Palooka (1954) Max 'Slapsie Maxie' Rosenbloom .... Humphrey Pennyworth (1954) Luis Van Rooten .... Knobby Walsh Bear |
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