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12-28-2017, 02:56 AM | #21 |
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Just one quick question. I have the MLB-December quickstart downloaded and would like to use this as well, any advice on how to set this up for it to work properly?
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12-28-2017, 06:37 PM | #22 | |
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Once all of the players are deleted, you'll need to delete all of those leagues as well, and I'd suggest deleting all personnel at that point too. Import your template for the Dec QS, re-adjust all of the independent college leagues to feed into the new MLB, and that should get you started. BTW: it will be slow |
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12-29-2017, 04:47 AM | #23 | |
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12-29-2017, 06:14 AM | #24 |
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Nope, unfortunately the game doens't allow you to specify what to / not to include from the DB in game templates.
This explains why there's many residual "ghost leagues" and teams in the universe, because while building it templates were slapped together with other templates. Bottom line is: it's possible to get it to work but to work correctly is another story. My project has been in build and testing for about 6-8 months so you can imagine I'm not eager to make it work on something that was released last week.... One other obstacle is the Dec QS starts in Dec 2017 whereas WOCB begins in Jan 2017. Most likely after all duplicate players / leagues have been removed, you'll need to rebuild all league schedules to align with 2018. |
12-29-2017, 11:28 AM | #25 | |
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12-30-2017, 08:11 PM | #26 |
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How does this affect High Schoolers in the MLB Draft
Hey I was considering using this template and I was wondering what role high schoolers play. (Sorry if this is repetitive, I only read the first part of the post)
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12-31-2017, 02:07 AM | #27 |
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HS players feed the indie college leagues so they don't play any role in the MLB draft for a few years and even then it's indirect and via the college leagues.
You'd have to add HS feeders specific to the MLB in order to get HS players in the draft like real life. I'm not actually concerned with HS players flowing into the MLB draft and with simulating that relationship, the goal of this universe is to mechanically emulate a vast collegiate universe that interacts quasi-proper with the MLB. Bottom line: download the QS and rip apart the DAT files yourself and experiment |
01-02-2018, 10:49 PM | #28 |
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Correct me if I am wrong, but if you set the age limits for rosters in any league, teams would only be able to sign players that fit those requirements.? For instance, roster age limit of 18 to 22, teams would only be able to sign players that fit those requirements?
If so, would it be possible to run high school leagues alongside college leagues and have them all feed into the draft, and then any undrafted high school players can be signed to college teams? Also, putting restrictions on JuCo players and such. Example, a player from California would not go to a Junior College in Florida. |
01-03-2018, 12:02 AM | #29 |
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Age limits / restrictions don't work 100%, this has been the case for a while now. All of the college leagues have age limit parameters set out of the box, and like explained, JuCo's are 18-20 vs 18-22.
In order to achieve what you're looking for, you want ONE unified draft pool, which is possible via Associations but is a complete cluster when done with leagues the size of NCAA-DI in addition to the others. The only way to get ONE draft pool that feeds the MLB is to associate the college leagues but this totally breaks "recruiting" and drafting for the college leagues. No, age limits alone will not drive the type of player movement / logic you're looking for nor is there any easy way to have geographic centric players stick to their local area (California HS player going to CA college). There's currently no way to my knowledge to associate a "region" with a specific draft pool, and this is something I've really looked into other than modifying xml's or txt files, which isn't something I'm going to be doing right now. Last edited by Dr. P.R. Park III; 01-03-2018 at 12:04 AM. |
01-08-2018, 07:00 PM | #30 | |
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From what I can see, all college leagues feed into the draft pool and through age restrictions, facilitate player movement with the use of Free Agency, correct? If so, what if the high school leagues were set up the same way as the college leagues are so they all feed into the MLB draft, and if undrafted they use free agency to sign with colleges or independent leagues? I say this because players already use free agency to move around in the college ranks, so wouldnt it be the same way if high school leagues were set up the same way, just acting as high schools through the mostly working use of age limits? Sorry if it somewhat confusing to understand. But what im getting at is setting up high school leagues the same way college leagues are set up, having them all feed into the MLB similar to how its currently done, and then instead of using the draft as "recruiting," allow those undrafted high school players to move to colleges or independent leagues through the use of free agency instead. Would that work? ---Also, when I ask this im only looking for your knowledge on this for advice. I'm in no way expecting you to work on this theory at all. Last edited by itsmb8; 01-08-2018 at 07:01 PM. |
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01-09-2018, 06:15 AM | #31 | |
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What you're trying to achieve is complicated and clunky; you cannot have one league feed TWO leagues concurrently. You either have traditional feeders baked into the Major league or you have independent leagues that "feed" another league via Rules settings. What you can try is to convert each of the state association HS leagues from baked feeders to independent feeders; you then will need to adjust each of the 50 HS indie leagues to feed the MLB, set age limits, financials, etc. for all of them. I've personally tried this and gave up really quickly. Also, this particular quote is another contributing factor as to why your desired set-up will encounter problems with drafted players: "The game has a tendency to return feeder league players never drafted back to original teams, even when the player is way beyond the age limits set for the feeder league. Only way to get rid of them is to find them in the draft pool, and retire or delete." The only way to test out any theories is to tear a part the game and test. I've provided you with more than a framework and have already saved you a lot of work, now you just need to mold the universe to your liking. Most of the mechanisms to make a realistic college baseball sim are in place with OOTP but unfortunately not all are built into the game. Last edited by Dr. P.R. Park III; 01-09-2018 at 03:18 PM. |
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01-26-2018, 08:53 PM | #32 |
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Not sure if you're still checking this but is the point of this to be just College Baseball or can i control an MLB Team while the College Universe is going on in the back ground kind of like a Japan league, etc.....?
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01-27-2018, 06:55 PM | #33 |
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You can play as any team available, there's just a lot of college leagues for those interested in playing them.
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02-10-2018, 11:48 AM | #34 | |
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Part 1 - You advised to clean out the draft pool but also indicate that you don't have to do it if you don't care about the draft pool players for the first few years. Is it that big of a hassle if you don't do it and if you don't do it, is it best to just simulate the first couple of years to 2021 so the draft pool has cleaned out? Part 2 - To keep the league going 10+ years, you put on Nov 8th to delete the fictional "College Players". Where does this take place? Am i doing this in the FA list by filter or am i going somewhere else for this? Thanks for your help. Giving this a go right now and want to make sure i don't F it up. |
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02-17-2018, 02:01 AM | #35 |
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Part I
My main observation was that the game didn't pick up enough of indie college players in the first 4 years of the draft because of the highly rated real draft picks. If you have the patience to sim, I'd sim 2017-2027 to completely clean it out. Part II You do this by navigating to specific "draft pool" tab in "transactions" for each indie college league on "draft day", filter players by "college players" and delete those so that none of the indie college players drafted by the NCAA-DI are "drafted" from another college. |
02-22-2018, 02:46 PM | #36 |
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Any plans to update this for the 2018 season when OOTP 19 is released?
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02-28-2018, 10:28 PM | #37 |
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There are plans for OOTP 19, no ETA.
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07-08-2018, 06:46 PM | #38 | |
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Hi, thanks for taking the time to do all that you have done.
I am not very savvy with computers and I have downloaded your files successfully to my computer, but I don't know how to proceed from there. Any insight would be great. Quote:
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07-17-2018, 08:46 AM | #39 |
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1. Unzip WOCB
2. Put the .quick folder at the following location \Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 19\quickstart_games 3. Load the quickstart from in-game and enjoy |
07-17-2018, 08:47 AM | #40 |
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BTW: an enhanced and better version is available for OOTP 19: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=287719 |
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