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Charlatan · 07-16-2019, 03:37 PM

Posted this in another thread but I'd like some input:

Here's a thought exercise for you guys. Presenting an anonymous batter for your consideration - avoiding the OVR rating and the player's name to get a more objective perspective on the card (I'll reveal it later if people want).

What do you think of this guy?

Code:

Dude McDude  Bats: R       
     max rating at LF:96   CF:69   RF: 87
        con  gap   pow   eye   av K
     vL 65    73    97    81    30	
     vR 56    70    78    67    29

Slash line for the year the card is based on was on the order of .270/.380/.530 ... OPS+ of 151 for that year... so pretty good.

Now I don't own this card and I'm debating whether or not I should buy it for a platoon vs LHP and/or defensive sub. The questions are this:

1. Do you think the guy will ever hit close to his slash line (cuz I don't), and,
2. What do you think this card would go for and/or be worth (I think it's "worth" around 7.5k but I suspect it'll be offered for closer to 9k or higher since it's in a collection).

I feel like this is one of those cards that will never perform as well as you hope, what with the low contact ratings, especially vs RHP.

Note that this is a guy I'm considering for my non-OL Senators team, and there are only so many players who qualify for this team - so I have a pretty limited universe of players from which to choose. This guy is one of two potential 4th outfielders I could use (the other one hits righties better and plays comparable defense but is maybe twice as expensive as this guy).

Would you pay 9k for this guy as a 4th of/LHP platoon/defensive sub?

Stanley Kuppchaser · 07-16-2019, 03:42 PM

[QUOTE=Charlatan;4515692]Posted this in another thread but I'd like some input:

Here's a thought exercise for you guys. Presenting an anonymous batter for your consideration - avoiding the OVR rating and the player's name to get a more objective perspective on the card (I'll reveal it later if people want).

What do you think of this guy?

Code:

Dude McDude  Bats: R       
     max rating at LF:96   CF:69   RF: 87
        con  gap   pow   eye   av K
     vL 65    73    97    81    30	
     vR 56    70    78    67    29

Slash line for the year the card is based on was on the order of .270/.380/.530 ... OPS+ of 151 for that year... so pretty good.

Now I don't own this card and I'm debating whether or not I should buy it for a platoon vs LHP and/or defensive sub. The questions are this:

1. Do you think the guy will ever hit close to his slash line (cuz I don't), and,
2. What do you think this card would go for and/or be worth (I think it's "worth" around 7.5k but I suspect it'll be offered for closer to 9k or higher since it's in a collection).

I feel like this is one of those cards that will never perform as well as you hope, what with the low contact ratings, especially vs RHP.

Note that this is a guy I'm considering for my non-OL Senators team, and there are only so many players who qualify for this team - so I have a pretty limited universe of players from which to choose. This guy is one of two potential 4th outfielders I could use (the other one hits righties better and plays comparable defense but is maybe twice as expensive as this guy).

Would you pay 9k for this guy as a 4th of/LHP platoon/defensive sub?[/QUOTE

QuantaCondor · 07-16-2019, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan

Posted this in another thread but I'd like some input:

Here's a thought exercise for you guys. Presenting an anonymous batter for your consideration - avoiding the OVR rating and the player's name to get a more objective perspective on the card (I'll reveal it later if people want).

What do you think of this guy?

Code:

Dude McDude  Bats: R       
     max rating at LF:96   CF:69   RF: 87
        con  gap   pow   eye   av K
     vL 65    73    97    81    30    
     vR 56    70    78    67    29

Slash line for the year the card is based on was on the order of .270/.380/.530 ... OPS+ of 151 for that year... so pretty good.

Now I don't own this card and I'm debating whether or not I should buy it for a platoon vs LHP and/or defensive sub. The questions are this:

1. Do you think the guy will ever hit close to his slash line (cuz I don't), and,
2. What do you think this card would go for and/or be worth (I think it's "worth" around 7.5k but I suspect it'll be offered for closer to 9k or higher since it's in a collection).

I feel like this is one of those cards that will never perform as well as you hope, what with the low contact ratings, especially vs RHP.

Note that this is a guy I'm considering for my non-OL Senators team, and there are only so many players who qualify for this team - so I have a pretty limited universe of players from which to choose. This guy is one of two potential 4th outfielders I could use (the other one hits righties better and plays comparable defense but is maybe twice as expensive as this guy).

Would you pay 9k for this guy as a 4th of/LHP platoon/defensive sub?

According to my spreadsheets, there are at 3 gold players that are at least as good as this guy is defensively who also hit lefties at an equal to or greater than rate. Any guesses as to who those 3 players are?

Also, no I wouldn't pay for him. Just grab one of these 3 golds instead.

Stanley Kuppchaser · 07-16-2019, 06:17 PM

It seems it's biggest claim to fame was being the western terminus of the Union Pacific part of the transcontinental railroad. With that in mind...

Stanley Kuppchaser · 07-16-2019, 06:18 PM

The hometown of surf guitar legends...

Stanley Kuppchaser · 07-16-2019, 07:35 PM

Honoring Kaneohe's most famous native son, and his breaktrough hit single. To be honest, my initial thought was to honor The Uncle Floyd Show by calling them the Ho-Hums.

Charlatan · 07-16-2019, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuantaCondor

According to my spreadsheets, there are at 3 gold players that are at least as good as this guy is defensively who also hit lefties at an equal to or greater than rate. Any guesses as to who those 3 players are?

Also, no I wouldn't pay for him. Just grab one of these 3 golds instead.

Uh...golds...hmmm

88 OVR Clemente
87 OVR Puckett
84 OVR Kaline

Those are my guesses

The guy in question above is 90 OVR Bob Allison, by the way.

The problem is that my only real choices for (good) 4th outfielders are Minnie Minoso or Allison, and Minoso is close to 20k because of all those stupid White Sox missions!

QuantaCondor · 07-16-2019, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan

Uh...golds...hmmm

88 OVR Clemente
87 OVR Puckett
84 OVR Kaline

Those are my guesses

The guy in question above is 90 OVR Bob Allison, by the way.

The problem is that my only real choices for (good) 4th outfielders are Minnie Minoso or Allison, and Minoso is close to 20k because of all those stupid White Sox missions!

2 out of 3, that's a pretty good effort. The other one is 89 Willie Mays, Kirby's garbage Eye rating brings him down just a hair below the others (in my models anyways).

OMGPuppies · 07-16-2019, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuantaCondor

2 out of 3, that's a pretty good effort. The other one is 89 Willie Mays, Kirby's garbage Eye rating brings him down just a hair below the others (in my models anyways).

Are the Condors killing it in Diamond? how are your four starting pitchers for the Cottons not having their arms fall off?

Edster007 · 07-16-2019, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGPuppies

Can you screenshot both cards?

If Carbo is still in the AH next time I log in I will. I’m not suggesting the Rose card may be better I’m just saying I don’t get the 20 point difference in overall as I learn reading the ratings

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QuantaCondor · 07-16-2019, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGPuppies

Are the Condors killing it in Diamond? how are your four starting pitchers for the Cottons not having their arms fall off?

The Condors started rough, but then won like 16 of 20 and are now competing with Waffletown for the division. And the Cottons run 2 long relievers/emergency SPs, which is enough to fill in those spot starts when my aces are wearing down. Plus idk what it is, but my long relievers (no matter who it is, Dizzy Dean or Brett Anderson or Sad Sam Jones or whoever) average like a 3.0 ERA over ~100 innings each season, so they seem to adapt well in that role. Now if only I can find a way to stop my runs allowed ranking from underperforming my FIP numbers

joehart · 07-17-2019, 01:38 AM

Our League: -OL and + symbol

It seems that you can not use 4 characters and the + symbol.

I checked Diamond league to see if all the teams use the + symbol and noticed that a few were missing:
I assume some of the teams don't show it because of the 4 characters:
Seattle Pilots - SEA
Luckenbach Armadillos - Luck
Chippewa Grey Wolves - CHI
Roncalli Rebels - REBS

Can the owners please double check.

Also, if you see a + symbol after 4 characters in the schedule, please let me know. I assume my 2560x1600 resolution is wide
enough to show all but it could also be influenced by font & size.

Goliathus · 07-17-2019, 03:42 AM

Well, I did said a page ago that the system only accepts a max of 4 characters for short name. Though SEA and CHI are just 3 characters, so what do I know.

Stanley Kuppchaser · 07-17-2019, 05:40 AM

Asylum rode a 14-3 sim to take over first, while New York went 11-6 to move into second.

stl jason · 07-17-2019, 06:20 AM

Diamond league update:

Seattle Endless Summer vaults to the top of the standings with a spotless start to their OL season.

and a shot of the overall picture (don't have time for a summary write up this morning):

Charlatan · 07-17-2019, 06:29 AM

Redmond jumps to the top of the heap in early Gold play

Code:

Our League Standings - G316 - 2035			
			 W	 L	Pct
Redmond Defenders	 7	 3	.700
Ozark Bobcats		10	 6	.625
Annandale Atom Smashers	10	 7	.588
Harlem Hatchets		10	 7	.588
Janesville Onyx		 9	 9	.500
Tacoma Aroma		 7	10	.412
Victoria Vikings	 5	 8	.385
Texas Strangers		 6	11	.353
Shasta Black Bears	 3	 6	.333


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Kushiel · 07-17-2019, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joehart

Our League: -OL and + symbol

It seems that you can not use 4 characters and the + symbol.

I checked Diamond league to see if all the teams use the + symbol and noticed that a few were missing:
I assume some of the teams don't show it because of the 4 characters:
Seattle Pilots - SEA
Luckenbach Armadillos - Luck
Chippewa Grey Wolves - CHI
Roncalli Rebels - REBS

Can the owners please double check.

Also, if you see a + symbol after 4 characters in the schedule, please let me know. I assume my 2560x1600 resolution is wide
enough to show all but it could also be influenced by font & size.

As you know I am an advocate for this. I did not realize that my 4 letter LUCK+(which they need a lot of) was cutting it off. I changed them to ARM+. I looked at some other team schedules and it now shows. My apologies.

trevwilson · 07-17-2019, 09:00 AM

Same here. Will change it ASAP.

pappyzan · 07-17-2019, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joehart

Our League: -OL and + symbol

It seems that you can not use 4 characters and the + symbol.

This must've been a small change the development team implemented just this week, but yep it appears to be the case now.

Argonaut · 07-17-2019, 11:49 AM

Man, Perfect Level is really hard compared to Diamond. I think the Cowboys are destined to be a losing team or .500 at best, unless I drop my theme and go with more meta players. Most guys sitting at under 100 OPS+. Maybe if I get a full slate of 5 SPs as good as my Cy Young I can eke out wins that way.

07-16-2019, 03:37 PM	#3621
Charlatan All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,491	Posted this in another thread but I'd like some input: Here's a thought exercise for you guys. Presenting an anonymous batter for your consideration - avoiding the OVR rating and the player's name to get a more objective perspective on the card (I'll reveal it later if people want). What do you think of this guy? Code: Dude McDude Bats: R max rating at LF:96 CF:69 RF: 87 con gap pow eye av K vL 65 73 97 81 30 vR 56 70 78 67 29 Slash line for the year the card is based on was on the order of .270/.380/.530 ... OPS+ of 151 for that year... so pretty good. Now I don't own this card and I'm debating whether or not I should buy it for a platoon vs LHP and/or defensive sub. The questions are this: 1. Do you think the guy will ever hit close to his slash line (cuz I don't), and, 2. What do you think this card would go for and/or be worth (I think it's "worth" around 7.5k but I suspect it'll be offered for closer to 9k or higher since it's in a collection). I feel like this is one of those cards that will never perform as well as you hope, what with the low contact ratings, especially vs RHP. Note that this is a guy I'm considering for my non-OL Senators team, and there are only so many players who qualify for this team - so I have a pretty limited universe of players from which to choose. This guy is one of two potential 4th outfielders I could use (the other one hits righties better and plays comparable defense but is maybe twice as expensive as this guy). Would you pay 9k for this guy as a 4th of/LHP platoon/defensive sub?

07-16-2019, 03:42 PM	#3622
Stanley Kuppchaser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,239	[QUOTE=Charlatan;4515692]Posted this in another thread but I'd like some input: Here's a thought exercise for you guys. Presenting an anonymous batter for your consideration - avoiding the OVR rating and the player's name to get a more objective perspective on the card (I'll reveal it later if people want). What do you think of this guy? Code: Dude McDude Bats: R max rating at LF:96 CF:69 RF: 87 con gap pow eye av K vL 65 73 97 81 30 vR 56 70 78 67 29 Slash line for the year the card is based on was on the order of .270/.380/.530 ... OPS+ of 151 for that year... so pretty good. Now I don't own this card and I'm debating whether or not I should buy it for a platoon vs LHP and/or defensive sub. The questions are this: 1. Do you think the guy will ever hit close to his slash line (cuz I don't), and, 2. What do you think this card would go for and/or be worth (I think it's "worth" around 7.5k but I suspect it'll be offered for closer to 9k or higher since it's in a collection). I feel like this is one of those cards that will never perform as well as you hope, what with the low contact ratings, especially vs RHP. Note that this is a guy I'm considering for my non-OL Senators team, and there are only so many players who qualify for this team - so I have a pretty limited universe of players from which to choose. This guy is one of two potential 4th outfielders I could use (the other one hits righties better and plays comparable defense but is maybe twice as expensive as this guy). Would you pay 9k for this guy as a 4th of/LHP platoon/defensive sub?[/QUOTE

07-16-2019, 06:17 PM	#3624
Stanley Kuppchaser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,239	So, omgpuppies, I Googled Tacoma.... It seems it's biggest claim to fame was being the western terminus of the Union Pacific part of the transcontinental railroad. With that in mind... Attached Images

07-16-2019, 06:18 PM	#3625
Stanley Kuppchaser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,239	And also... The hometown of surf guitar legends... Attached Images Last edited by Stanley Kuppchaser; 07-16-2019 at 06:21 PM.

07-16-2019, 07:35 PM	#3626
Stanley Kuppchaser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,239	For Kaneohe Honoring Kaneohe's most famous native son, and his breaktrough hit single. To be honest, my initial thought was to honor The Uncle Floyd Show by calling them the Ho-Hums. Attached Images

07-17-2019, 01:38 AM	#3632
joehart All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 1,131	Our League: -OL and + symbol It seems that you can not use 4 characters and the + symbol. I checked Diamond league to see if all the teams use the + symbol and noticed that a few were missing: I assume some of the teams don't show it because of the 4 characters: Seattle Pilots - SEA Luckenbach Armadillos - Luck Chippewa Grey Wolves - CHI Roncalli Rebels - REBS Can the owners please double check. Also, if you see a + symbol after 4 characters in the schedule, please let me know. I assume my 2560x1600 resolution is wide enough to show all but it could also be influenced by font & size. __________________ Last edited by joehart; 07-17-2019 at 01:47 AM.

07-17-2019, 03:42 AM	#3633
Goliathus Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 449	Well, I did said a page ago that the system only accepts a max of 4 characters for short name. Though SEA and CHI are just 3 characters, so what do I know.

07-17-2019, 05:40 AM	#3634
Stanley Kuppchaser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,239	Keepers Vault to Top of OL S273 Asylum rode a 14-3 sim to take over first, while New York went 11-6 to move into second. Attached Images

07-17-2019, 06:20 AM	#3635
stl jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,943	Diamond league update: Seattle Endless Summer vaults to the top of the standings with a spotless start to their OL season. and a shot of the overall picture (don't have time for a summary write up this morning): Attached Images __________________ Beer League dynasty thread - knock 'em back!

07-17-2019, 09:00 AM	#3638
trevwilson Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Indianapolis, IN, USA Posts: 59 Blog Entries: 1	Same here. Will change it ASAP. __________________

07-17-2019, 11:49 AM	#3640
Argonaut All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,085	Man, Perfect Level is really hard compared to Diamond. I think the Cowboys are destined to be a losing team or .500 at best, unless I drop my theme and go with more meta players. Most guys sitting at under 100 OPS+. Maybe if I get a full slate of 5 SPs as good as my Cy Young I can eke out wins that way. __________________ Texas Rangers Dynasty (Est. 1972) Hartford Whalers Dynasty: Brass Bonanza