Spritze's db for OOTP14 - Page 4

The Game · 04-29-2013, 09:22 AM

Gambo or Spritz will the new DB's work with 13? I am guessing yes but wanted to be sure.

Gambo · 04-29-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Game

Gambo or Spritz will the new DB's work with 13? I am guessing yes but wanted to be sure.

Yes it should.

thehef · 04-29-2013, 12:27 PM

Ok, based upon my understanding...

OOTP 12 - Any db with an ODB file or a properly-formatted set of csv files can be used... This is based upon my experience with v12.

OOTP 13 - Only a ODB db can be used... This is based upon info in this thread http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...itze-s-db.html, and this one http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...e-gambo-2.html.

OOTP 14 - Same as v12. Meaning, in my case, where I have created my own db (a set of csv files; IIRC, I wanted a combo of neutralized players importing to their original teams at the time of their MLB debut, but also wanted Negro leaguers a bunch of career minor leaguers; something like that), I will have no problem... This is based upon Gambo's reply in this thread, immediately above... So on this I just wanted to clarify that the modded db that I use in v12 - which does not include an ODB file - should work if I convert to v14 (and I should also have no problems with the interim step of converting to v13 before immediately converting the v14).

Sorry to beat on this poor dead horse, but I just wanted to be clear for my and anyone else's benefit ;-) Thanks

Spritze · 04-29-2013, 12:57 PM

12, 13 and 14 all use the same CSV file formats so db's are interchangeably interchangeable.

ODB's are not interchangeable and generally can be removed.

Aumakua · 05-02-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambo

You got it.

I also hav done the same thing but what I typically do is delete the lines after the player got hurt. This allows the game engine to take over and the player will develop accordingly.

And an FYI in case u didn't notice the park factor issue was fixed in the patch

So if a player only played 10 seasons and was really good in all 10, retired at 32, and you import him using "career totals" how would their potential compare to a similar player who played 20 seasons and has much higher overall stat totals? would they be rated similar or would the player with higher overall stat totals be rated higher?

I guess I am wondering how OOTP view "career totals", do they look at it as per season or just flat out the higher the stat totals the better the potential will be?

ezpkns34 · 05-12-2013, 05:28 PM

Love these since I prefer starting in older seasons

However, seems like all the historical rookies come in ready for at least AA which kind of makes R & A pointless (& makes good veterans secondary options when they shouldn't be). Is this something I can alter with the player creation modifiers?

Ty Cobb · 05-20-2013, 08:51 AM

Was just perusing players for a trade when I noticed Kiki Cuyler listed as born in Harrisville, UT. Actually, Harrisville is in Northern Michigan, about 80 miles from me. You can still have dinner at Cuyler's restaurant there, though since the slamon are no longer planted there, it isn't the destination it once was.

tayloraj · 05-24-2013, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ty Cobb

Was just perusing players for a trade when I noticed Kiki Cuyler listed as born in Harrisville, UT. Actually, Harrisville is in Northern Michigan, about 80 miles from me. You can still have dinner at Cuyler's restaurant there, though since the slamon are no longer planted there, it isn't the destination it once was.

This is actually a pretty common issue with any of the DBs available for OOTP, both the standard historical DB that ships with the game or any of the custom ones; I think it's partly a function of not all municipalities in the US being part of the game's database (which explains why the game says Ty Cobb was born in Narrows, Virginia instead of Narrows, Georgia. I also don't believe that Harrisville, Michigan is in the game; I make a semi-concerted effort to correct player birthplaces in my historical leagues and I've definitely tried to modify his before) but there are plenty of cases where players are simply listed in the wrong state despite the availability of the proper municipality. Does anyone know how birthplaces are assigned in the databases?

Spritze · 05-25-2013, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tayloraj

Does anyone know how birthplaces are assigned in the databases?

For the Spritze db's it is the Lahman master.csv file.

RMc · 05-28-2013, 05:44 PM

This is embarrassing, because I know I've gotten this right before, but...I'm trying to start a historical fictional game starting in 1871, but I can't seem to get the new Spritze DB going properly. I set up the game, point it to the correct db (NOT the one in the stats folder), and instead of the expanded group of players, I get the standard 115 guys who actually played in the NA that year.

Li'l help?

thehef · 05-29-2013, 08:27 PM

Did you remove the .odb file first?

Spritze · 05-30-2013, 12:05 AM

Must choose neutered stats not "real" since their ain't nuthin' strictly real.

RMc · 05-30-2013, 11:12 AM

Did you remove the .odb file first?

Remove it from where, the 'Spritze for OOTP14' file or someplace else?

Spritze · 05-30-2013, 11:31 AM

The Spritze db comes with it's own ODB file so you don't need to remove it unless you'd like to.

There is an odb file in the stats folder that comes with the game. I believe that is the one the posterizer is referring to.

RMc · 05-31-2013, 08:33 AM

Why would I need to remove the .odb file from the stats folder if I'm not pointing to game to the stats folder in the first place?

Jeff1787 · 06-21-2013, 06:52 PM

Spritze:

I just started 1928 and for the game only imported 14 players for the draft pool. I have OOTP14 and I am using your High School DB. What I am doing wrong?

Thanks, Jeff

EKomrska15 · 06-22-2013, 07:06 AM

So here is what I'm trying to do....

Import players that are in the HOF maybe 1-2 per year in my fictional league.

I'm importing most okay, however, when it comes to Satchel Paige or other players from the Negro Leagues I'm having trouble with their identifier. If I type in his baseball reference id it says failed.

What am I doing wrong?

Spritze · 06-22-2013, 11:47 AM

Lahman ID not B-R ID

Look in the Master.csv for the ID's

The Game · 06-22-2013, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EKomrska15

So here is what I'm trying to do....

Import players that are in the HOF maybe 1-2 per year in my fictional league.

I'm importing most okay, however, when it comes to Satchel Paige or other players from the Negro Leagues I'm having trouble with their identifier. If I type in his baseball reference id it says failed.

What am I doing wrong?

paige I belive is paigesa01,1926 If that doesn't work let me know i have Paige Gibson & Buck O'Neill in my ABF. I will check them in game, but if you do a Find of Paige in Sprtize DB master.cvs it will eventually find him

EKomrska15 · 06-22-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Game

paige I belive is paigesa01,1926 If that doesn't work let me know i have Paige Gibson & Buck O'Neill in my ABF. I will check them in game, but if you do a Find of Paige in Sprtize DB master.cvs it will eventually find him

So I should update the master.csv with the default one to the gambo spritze db i downloaded too?

04-29-2013, 12:57 PM	#64
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	12, 13 and 14 all use the same CSV file formats so db's are interchangeably interchangeable. ODB's are not interchangeable and generally can be removed. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

05-20-2013, 08:51 AM	#67
Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 3,941 Blog Entries: 65	Error in DB Was just perusing players for a trade when I noticed Kiki Cuyler listed as born in Harrisville, UT. Actually, Harrisville is in Northern Michigan, about 80 miles from me. You can still have dinner at Cuyler's restaurant there, though since the slamon are no longer planted there, it isn't the destination it once was. Attached Images __________________ “What’s the most you ever lost on a coin toss?” “Everyone is an atheist until Templars begin marching in the rain.” Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder. Society's tolerance for violent criminals is dumbfounding. "Colonics for EVERYONE!"

05-28-2013, 05:44 PM	#70
RMc All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,418	Can't load Spritze DB into game This is embarrassing, because I know I've gotten this right before, but...I'm trying to start a historical fictional game starting in 1871, but I can't seem to get the new Spritze DB going properly. I set up the game, point it to the correct db (NOT the one in the stats folder), and instead of the expanded group of players, I get the standard 115 guys who actually played in the NA that year. Li'l help? __________________ "We're all behind our baseball team..."

05-30-2013, 12:05 AM	#72
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	Must choose neutered stats not "real" since their ain't nuthin' strictly real. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

05-30-2013, 11:12 AM	#73
RMc All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,418	Did you remove the .odb file first? Remove it from where, the 'Spritze for OOTP14' file or someplace else? __________________ "We're all behind our baseball team..."

04-29-2013, 09:22 AM	#61
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,803	Gambo or Spritz will the new DB's work with 13? I am guessing yes but wanted to be sure.

04-29-2013, 12:27 PM	#63
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,838	Ok, based upon my understanding... OOTP 12 - Any db with an ODB file or a properly-formatted set of csv files can be used... This is based upon my experience with v12. OOTP 13 - Only a ODB db can be used... This is based upon info in this thread http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...itze-s-db.html, and this one http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...e-gambo-2.html. OOTP 14 - Same as v12. Meaning, in my case, where I have created my own db (a set of csv files; IIRC, I wanted a combo of neutralized players importing to their original teams at the time of their MLB debut, but also wanted Negro leaguers a bunch of career minor leaguers; something like that), I will have no problem... This is based upon Gambo's reply in this thread, immediately above... So on this I just wanted to clarify that the modded db that I use in v12 - which does not include an ODB file - should work if I convert to v14 (and I should also have no problems with the interim step of converting to v13 before immediately converting the v14). Sorry to beat on this poor dead horse, but I just wanted to be clear for my and anyone else's benefit ;-) Thanks

05-12-2013, 05:28 PM	#66
ezpkns34 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 693	Love these since I prefer starting in older seasons However, seems like all the historical rookies come in ready for at least AA which kind of makes R & A pointless (& makes good veterans secondary options when they shouldn't be). Is this something I can alter with the player creation modifiers?

05-29-2013, 08:27 PM	#71
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,838	Did you remove the .odb file first?

05-30-2013, 11:31 AM	#74
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	The Spritze db comes with it's own ODB file so you don't need to remove it unless you'd like to. There is an odb file in the stats folder that comes with the game. I believe that is the one the posterizer is referring to. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

05-31-2013, 08:33 AM	#75
RMc All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,418	:confused: Why would I need to remove the .odb file from the stats folder if I'm not pointing to game to the stats folder in the first place? __________________ "We're all behind our baseball team..."

06-21-2013, 06:52 PM	#76
Jeff1787 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Doghouse Posts: 3,419	Spritze: I just started 1928 and for the game only imported 14 players for the draft pool. I have OOTP14 and I am using your High School DB. What I am doing wrong? Thanks, Jeff __________________ 1903 - Major League Baseball is born

06-22-2013, 07:06 AM	#77
EKomrska15 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,477	So here is what I'm trying to do.... Import players that are in the HOF maybe 1-2 per year in my fictional league. I'm importing most okay, however, when it comes to Satchel Paige or other players from the Negro Leagues I'm having trouble with their identifier. If I type in his baseball reference id it says failed. What am I doing wrong?

06-22-2013, 11:47 AM	#78
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	Lahman ID not B-R ID Look in the Master.csv for the ID's __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!