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OOTP 19 - General Discussions Everything about the 2018 version of Out of the Park Baseball - officially licensed by MLB.com and the MLBPA. |
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02-25-2019, 05:31 PM | #21 |
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I'm in two online leagues that are going strong. So well that the commish is working on starting a 3rd league.
There's been some discussion on our slack site about PT, but not much. It's really a very different thing to online. |
02-27-2019, 02:40 AM | #22 | |
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In MLBtS and to a lesser extent, NBA2K (probably FIFA too but I haven’t touched it for years) the franchise modes that I’m guessing the majority of the hardcore sim-minded gamers loved... didn’t exactly flourish with the additional money that came pouring in. I’d argue that they are languishing and being ignored, especially in comparison to the time and money put into the MTX modes. Case in point, MLBTS had only two developers working on the Franchise Mode for 2018, while this year’s franchise iteration didn’t even get its own bulletpoint in the initial press release announcing the game - the majority of those were taken by Diamond Dynasty, RTTS, and Online improvements. Hell, they cut out online franchise last year and shrugged at it this year. It’s not that the very core-est parts of the game haven’t improved - the pitcher vs batter play is great, defense looks to be much improved this year - but that the parts that were a core part of the game just three years ago and beloved by many have become consigned to the dustbin. Worse, though, is that the core gameplay tweaks and changes are being driven by what the MTX players want. In MLBtS it’s the rocket bunts to fight online Cheesers, in NBA it’s a lack of fouls and unrealistic 3-point rates. Plus, I can recall the devs getting on the OS forums at the start of the DD implementation to reassure their fans, how they’d never abandon their core simheads, etc etc etc. At this point, improvements made to any part of the game that doesn’t make them that sweet MTX money is completely incidental. I’m in the “cautiously optimistic” camp, myself, but given the research I’m sure you guys did and the increasing backlash to MTX modes, I think everyone at OOTP has to understand why some people (current or former console gamers, foremost, I’d wager) are very nervous about this happening yet again to a great game. Because it never happens all at once; it’s always sad death by degrees. Should also say though that those are different kinds of games made by different types of companies, of course, and I tend to trust stuff Markus says a hell of a lot more than I do PR flaks. Last edited by torpidbeaver; 02-27-2019 at 02:44 AM. |
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02-27-2019, 09:11 AM | #23 | |
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Marks only has to answer to Markus, what he says and what he wants is all that matters I've been around here since 2002 and from then 'til now Markus' vision of making the world's best baseball game has never wavered. |
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02-27-2019, 12:46 PM | #24 | |
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You can add the NHL title to the list. This year they messed up the penalties to cater to HUT players so bad I had to change my penalties sliders in my Franchise to 3 out of 100 and lower tripping and slashing to 2 out of 100 each, and even then playing 8 minutes periods each team would take 6 slashing penalties per game it was unplayable...but hey, HUT players got to have some fun. And don't get me started on titles that are not sports titles. I know it's pretty much outside of what OOTP does or has to really worry about, but there are many sad sad examples in the MMO genre...heck, there's even a title that is crowdsourcing and doesn't have much of anything out and they are bleeding customers out through a cash shop for titles and upgrades that will be available to them...when (if) the game releases. Yes, completely different situation than what we are seeing here, but that's another example of promising to put the money back in the game and it's not happening. Of course there are games that put the money back in the game as well, Path of Exile is a good example, there are numerous expansions and new seasons coming out and they are constantly trying new things. |
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02-27-2019, 01:27 PM | #25 |
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Also, sim Madden players are loving the gameplay changes so much that they stopped playing altogether because the game is so broken and the gameplay is catered to the MUT/12 year old crowd/casual player that the sim crowd is forgotten about. The biggest addition to the franchise mode last year was a sortable draft board and this year the biggest addition was a worse progression system and a slide show of the coach in his office.
NHL same thing, the gameplay is so broken this year with the penalties as mentioned above. Havent played NBA in a couple years but people are complaining about how pay to win that game is becoming. The Show doesnt even seem to care about franchise mode anymore, which is why I havent played it in years. FIFA is the worst culprit. The Manager Mode hasnt seen any meaningful changes in over a half decade. It's sad that the franchise modes are dying on the mainstream games but we are lucky to still have OOTP Last edited by wallewalls; 02-27-2019 at 01:29 PM. |
02-27-2019, 01:48 PM | #26 |
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I like how easy it is to play PT but part of me wishes it was closer to actual baseball or online leagues. Fa, injuries, trades, etc. I realize how they dont do these but it would be nice at some point. My problem with leagues is most owners act like they are god and trading is near impossible when you are a small market team. i also dont want the only team available in the Tampa Rays after the former owner gutted the team before he left. I also despise the sim schedule of most online leagues.
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02-27-2019, 03:23 PM | #27 |
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Perfect Team is too different from online league play. It cannot replace it. i play in fictional leagues. Maybe it is different in Modern or Historical leagues?
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02-27-2019, 04:09 PM | #28 |
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Perfect Team doesn't seem to be killing the four online leagues that I play, most guys in one league play Perfect Team but the hasn't detracted from the league.
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02-27-2019, 04:20 PM | #29 |
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I'd like to argue, at least for me, playing Perfect Team has kind of opened my eyes and made me consider joining an actual Online League. It's just a matter now of waiting until I think I can commit to it and then choosing one to join.
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02-27-2019, 04:47 PM | #30 |
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I'm with you. I'd love to join the right online league but never really considered it before PT.
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02-28-2019, 10:50 PM | #31 | |
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03-01-2019, 02:49 PM | #32 |
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I have been interested in joining an online league, but with OTTP 20 coming out soon- I figured I would wait for that release. If you have openings I would be interested.
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