4 man rotation

Stick50 · 07-21-2019, 01:44 PM

Has anyone had much success at the perfect level with a 4 man rotation?

Obviously which 4 SP matters, but just as a general question.

Also if you did a 4 man rotation did you put them on a pitch count?

Obviously I assume a 3 man is out of the question

One Great Matrix · 07-22-2019, 05:52 AM

I didn't stick with it but I went 8-3 in one stretch of the regular season, almost 2 full turns of starters on 3/4 days rest, rather than 4/5 days rest.

SpacePope · 07-22-2019, 03:35 PM

I spent most of my last season running a 4 man rotation in Perfect. On balance it was working fine. I had the roster spots to spare on more pitchers, just didn't have any other perfect-worthy starters. My squad was well over 500 despite having only 10, not amazing, pitchers.

It caught up to me at one point and I lost a game 40 to 11! (the other guy said his team made over 17k PP on that one game!) It seems my pitchers were all icing their arms, so my position players tried their stuff against some of histories best bats. Obviously, it didn't end well. Still, it was just one loss and my pitchers were back to normal the following game.

There are other people who go with a 4 man rotation more out of choice. I've even seen 3 man rotations. For a 4 man rotation during the regular season, I believe the main thing is to actually have a fairly deep bullpen with plenty of converted SPs (the strategy is definitely not to do what I was doing and just be very picky for half a week on the AH to fill an obvious need). The penalty of running an SP on their second day of yellow rest doesn't seem to be very noticable. I've no idea what the strategy of a 3 man rotation is.

One Great Matrix · 07-22-2019, 04:51 PM

40-11, yikes, yeah maybe you gotta keep that Emergency SP in the pen. Or even 2 to make it the normal 6.

Stick50 · 07-24-2019, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SpacePope

I spent most of my last season running a 4 man rotation in Perfect. On balance it was working fine. I had the roster spots to spare on more pitchers, just didn't have any other perfect-worthy starters. My squad was well over 500 despite having only 10, not amazing, pitchers.

It caught up to me at one point and I lost a game 40 to 11! (the other guy said his team made over 17k PP on that one game!) It seems my pitchers were all icing their arms, so my position players tried their stuff against some of histories best bats. Obviously, it didn't end well. Still, it was just one loss and my pitchers were back to normal the following game.

There are other people who go with a 4 man rotation more out of choice. I've even seen 3 man rotations. For a 4 man rotation during the regular season, I believe the main thing is to actually have a fairly deep bullpen with plenty of converted SPs (the strategy is definitely not to do what I was doing and just be very picky for half a week on the AH to fill an obvious need). The penalty of running an SP on their second day of yellow rest doesn't seem to be very noticable. I've no idea what the strategy of a 3 man rotation is.

Did any of your 4 SP have a pitch count? Also what did your bullpen look like? Im in a similar boat where i cant find (or dont want to spend the $$) for a SP of decent quality.

SpacePope · 07-24-2019, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Stick50

Did any of your 4 SP have a pitch count? Also what did your bullpen look like? Im in a similar boat where i cant find (or dont want to spend the $$) for a SP of decent quality.

No pitch counts and very hitter friendly park. I really wasn't trying at all at the start of the season. I had just sold off most of my team and was looking to rebuild. I definitely wasn't doing it right.

I still wouldn't use pitch counts for a 4 rotation team, but I would make the park less hitter friendly if I had to do over again. Mostly I wouldn't use a pitch count because I think starter fatigue has less to do with the number of pitches and more to do with having pitched at all. Not sure it that's accurate, but that's my impression.

BigRed75 · 07-31-2019, 08:37 AM

Well I’m trying a 4-man rotation in Perfect with two Emergency Starters (one a long man in the pen, the other a middle reliever) Three of four starters are diamond, the other + 2 ESes are gold. So far am 4 games under .500 but we are a traditionally slow-starting team anyway.

thehatfield · 07-31-2019, 11:30 AM

Been debating. Seems like a smart strategy especially in the lower leagues while building up your deck.

Argonaut · 07-31-2019, 11:43 AM

I found with a 4-man rotation and an emergency starter, that the emergency starter never actually started. The rotation was often quite gassed. Don't think I'm interested in a 4-man setup outside of the playoffs. Or in my case while I was selling one of my dudes.

07-21-2019, 01:44 PM	#1
Stick50 Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 57	4 man rotation Has anyone had much success at the perfect level with a 4 man rotation? Obviously which 4 SP matters, but just as a general question. Also if you did a 4 man rotation did you put them on a pitch count? Obviously I assume a 3 man is out of the question __________________

07-22-2019, 05:52 AM	#2
One Great Matrix All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,782	I didn't stick with it but I went 8-3 in one stretch of the regular season, almost 2 full turns of starters on 3/4 days rest, rather than 4/5 days rest. __________________

07-22-2019, 04:51 PM	#4
One Great Matrix All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,782	40-11, yikes, yeah maybe you gotta keep that Emergency SP in the pen. Or even 2 to make it the normal 6. __________________

07-31-2019, 08:37 AM	#7
BigRed75 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,430	Well I’m trying a 4-man rotation in Perfect with two Emergency Starters (one a long man in the pen, the other a middle reliever) Three of four starters are diamond, the other + 2 ESes are gold. So far am 4 games under .500 but we are a traditionally slow-starting team anyway. __________________ Mainline team SPTT team Was not a Snag fan...until I saw the fallout once he was gone and realized what a good job he was actually doing. - Ty Cobb

07-31-2019, 11:30 AM	#8
thehatfield All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: dirty jerz Posts: 1,339	Been debating. Seems like a smart strategy especially in the lower leagues while building up your deck. __________________ AFBL - Maryland Bridegrooms SBC - Western Suburbs Magpies no pressure no problem

07-22-2019, 03:35 PM	#3
SpacePope Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 88	I spent most of my last season running a 4 man rotation in Perfect. On balance it was working fine. I had the roster spots to spare on more pitchers, just didn't have any other perfect-worthy starters. My squad was well over 500 despite having only 10, not amazing, pitchers. It caught up to me at one point and I lost a game 40 to 11! (the other guy said his team made over 17k PP on that one game!) It seems my pitchers were all icing their arms, so my position players tried their stuff against some of histories best bats. Obviously, it didn't end well. Still, it was just one loss and my pitchers were back to normal the following game. There are other people who go with a 4 man rotation more out of choice. I've even seen 3 man rotations. For a 4 man rotation during the regular season, I believe the main thing is to actually have a fairly deep bullpen with plenty of converted SPs (the strategy is definitely not to do what I was doing and just be very picky for half a week on the AH to fill an obvious need). The penalty of running an SP on their second day of yellow rest doesn't seem to be very noticable. I've no idea what the strategy of a 3 man rotation is.

07-31-2019, 11:43 AM	#9
Argonaut All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,085	I found with a 4-man rotation and an emergency starter, that the emergency starter never actually started. The rotation was often quite gassed. Don't think I'm interested in a 4-man setup outside of the playoffs. Or in my case while I was selling one of my dudes. __________________ Texas Rangers Dynasty (Est. 1972) Hartford Whalers Dynasty: Brass Bonanza