Tony Gwynn

HFBL · 06-01-2019, 11:24 PM

I just pulled a Tony Gwynn, Historic All-Star, 1984. He hit .351 BA, .410 OBA, 213 Hits, 33 SB, 6.3 WAR...yet his card is only 69? How did you calculate that?

OMGPuppies · 06-01-2019, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HFBL

I just pulled a Tony Gwynn, Historic All-Star, 1984. He hit .351 BA, .410 OBA, 213 Hits, 33 SB, 6.3 WAR...yet his card is only 69? How did you calculate that?

Hell of a card. Solid hitting with good defense.

X3NEIZE · 06-02-2019, 12:42 AM

Probably the only card in the 60's that can easily feature in PL teams.

SF Giants · 06-02-2019, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by X3NEIZE

Probably the only card in the 60's that can easily feature in PL teams.

+Aparacio + LaValliere

rudel.dietrich · 06-02-2019, 01:36 AM

Not a lot of power or eye rating.

But a hell of a card and will be great for tournaments or leagues with a cap.

OMGPuppies · 06-02-2019, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SF Giants

+Aparacio + LaValliere

Carew ain’t bad.

LeroyJenkins · 06-02-2019, 05:28 AM

I wouldn't give up my Gwynns or Carews for the world. They will always find a spot in the lineup.

matingly23 · 06-05-2019, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HFBL

I just pulled a Tony Gwynn, Historic All-Star, 1984. He hit .351 BA, .410 OBA, 213 Hits, 33 SB, 6.3 WAR...yet his card is only 69? How did you calculate that?

That card is very nice, it's like the 69 Ichiro from 19 in terms of being much better than its rating.

The algorithm for figuring out total rating must not be overly impressed with the contact rating.

Chico Guilbault · 06-05-2019, 02:58 PM

I really want to start Gwynn, Lavalliere or both on my perfect league team. But, the way my cards are set up I am liable to deactivate them by mistake while sorting through new stuff. Crazy that it's the main reason I don't use the cards...they are just so far removed from all my other active cards in the list.

Edster007 · 06-05-2019, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico Guilbault

I really want to start Gwynn, Lavalliere or both on my perfect league team. But, the way my cards are set up I am liable to deactivate them by mistake while sorting through new stuff. Crazy that it's the main reason I don't use the cards...they are just so far removed from all my other active cards in the list.

I use a Pudge Rodriguez/ Lavalliere tandem on my PL team. It's the one place I don't look to upgrade.

HFBL · 06-05-2019, 04:46 PM

I tried the 98 Roy Campanella, but didn't produce much. Now I'm using the 88 Pudge Rodriguez vs right and the 96 Chris Hoiles vs left and both doing good.

mcdog512 · 06-05-2019, 04:49 PM

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I tried the 98 Roy Campanella, but didn't produce much. Now I'm using the 88 Pudge Rodriguez vs right and the 96 Chris Hoiles vs left and both doing good.

Buck Ewing is my everyday catcher with Johnny Bench backing him up.

HFBL · 06-05-2019, 04:50 PM

My 90 Satchell Paige is 9-1 at the moment. My 81 Willie Foster (Negro League) is doing great as my closer with a 1.14 ERA.

HFBL · 06-05-2019, 04:51 PM

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Buck Ewing is my everyday catcher with Johnny Bench backing him up.

Bench as a backup backstop...Ewing must be pretty good!

HFBL · 06-05-2019, 04:56 PM

Anyone know how the 82 Cool Papa Bell performs? His speed is amazing, of course, but how is his on-base stats in Perfect Team?

mcdog512 · 06-05-2019, 07:29 PM

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Anyone know how the 82 Cool Papa Bell performs? His speed is amazing, of course, but how is his on-base stats in Perfect Team?

Here's how mine has done....

joehart · 06-05-2019, 08:48 PM

Cool Papa Bell works well in the lower levels but once you get to Diamond, he is starting to have more problems.
Without looking at his card, you may be able to still use him as a backup in LF (defensive is just below 90) and play him every time against LHPs. His average seems to drop too much against RHPs.

My son uses him on his Diamond team as backup and primary player for LHPs in LF while also using him as a pinch runner against right handed batters. He won’t lead the league is steals but he still gets his share and his average/OBP seems to be acceptable against left handed pitchers.

Long term, you will probably want to look at an even better hitter or better defensive player.

Unfortunately, all our data is up to Diamond league.

One Great Matrix · 06-06-2019, 12:39 AM

Negro League cards most of them I've seen, aren't often spectacular but often well-balanced which plays well even in the Perfect Leagues sometimes. (no blue ratings but at least green, plus the multiple positions)...Olerud is another one has a 69 card that can play D and hit .305 against the best.

mcdog512 · 06-06-2019, 09:16 AM

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Bench as a backup backstop...Ewing must be pretty good!

He's not bad....certainly fast....

HFBL · 06-07-2019, 03:57 PM

Not too bad. I'm in the Bronze league at the moment.

Do they have a card for Josh Gibson?

06-01-2019, 11:24 PM	#1
HFBL Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 125	Tony Gwynn I just pulled a Tony Gwynn, Historic All-Star, 1984. He hit .351 BA, .410 OBA, 213 Hits, 33 SB, 6.3 WAR...yet his card is only 69? How did you calculate that? __________________ Former commissioner of the following leagues (OOTP2006 and older) Field of Dreams Baseball League (FDBL) Hall of Fame Baseball League (HFBL) Century Baseball League (CBL) My teams: My wife's teams:

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X3NEIZE All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 649	Probably the only card in the 60's that can easily feature in PL teams. __________________

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rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,614 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Not a lot of power or eye rating. But a hell of a card and will be great for tournaments or leagues with a cap. Last edited by rudel.dietrich; 06-02-2019 at 01:44 AM.

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LeroyJenkins Bat Boy Join Date: May 2019 Location: California Posts: 18	I wouldn't give up my Gwynns or Carews for the world. They will always find a spot in the lineup. __________________

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Chico Guilbault All Star Starter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Harlingen, NJ Posts: 1,063	I really want to start Gwynn, Lavalliere or both on my perfect league team. But, the way my cards are set up I am liable to deactivate them by mistake while sorting through new stuff. Crazy that it's the main reason I don't use the cards...they are just so far removed from all my other active cards in the list. __________________ BeechumCounty.com

06-05-2019, 04:46 PM	#11
HFBL Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 125	I tried the 98 Roy Campanella, but didn't produce much. Now I'm using the 88 Pudge Rodriguez vs right and the 96 Chris Hoiles vs left and both doing good. __________________ Former commissioner of the following leagues (OOTP2006 and older) Field of Dreams Baseball League (FDBL) Hall of Fame Baseball League (HFBL) Century Baseball League (CBL) My teams: My wife's teams:

06-05-2019, 04:50 PM	#13
HFBL Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 125	My 90 Satchell Paige is 9-1 at the moment. My 81 Willie Foster (Negro League) is doing great as my closer with a 1.14 ERA. __________________ Former commissioner of the following leagues (OOTP2006 and older) Field of Dreams Baseball League (FDBL) Hall of Fame Baseball League (HFBL) Century Baseball League (CBL) My teams: My wife's teams:

06-05-2019, 04:56 PM	#15
HFBL Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 125	Anyone know how the 82 Cool Papa Bell performs? His speed is amazing, of course, but how is his on-base stats in Perfect Team? __________________ Former commissioner of the following leagues (OOTP2006 and older) Field of Dreams Baseball League (FDBL) Hall of Fame Baseball League (HFBL) Century Baseball League (CBL) My teams: My wife's teams:

06-05-2019, 08:48 PM	#17
joehart All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 1,131	Tony Gwynn Cool Papa Bell works well in the lower levels but once you get to Diamond, he is starting to have more problems. Without looking at his card, you may be able to still use him as a backup in LF (defensive is just below 90) and play him every time against LHPs. His average seems to drop too much against RHPs. My son uses him on his Diamond team as backup and primary player for LHPs in LF while also using him as a pinch runner against right handed batters. He won’t lead the league is steals but he still gets his share and his average/OBP seems to be acceptable against left handed pitchers. Long term, you will probably want to look at an even better hitter or better defensive player. Unfortunately, all our data is up to Diamond league. __________________ Last edited by joehart; 06-05-2019 at 08:50 PM.

06-06-2019, 12:39 AM	#18
One Great Matrix All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,782	Negro League cards most of them I've seen, aren't often spectacular but often well-balanced which plays well even in the Perfect Leagues sometimes. (no blue ratings but at least green, plus the multiple positions)...Olerud is another one has a 69 card that can play D and hit .305 against the best. __________________

06-07-2019, 03:57 PM	#20
HFBL Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 125	Not too bad. I'm in the Bronze league at the moment. Do they have a card for Josh Gibson? __________________ Former commissioner of the following leagues (OOTP2006 and older) Field of Dreams Baseball League (FDBL) Hall of Fame Baseball League (HFBL) Century Baseball League (CBL) My teams: My wife's teams: