New features!

[highandoutside]

I think the animations are neat and getting better. I use them a lot. However, I'll add, that I have "seen" each and every game I've played over the past 40 years of being a baseball sim hobbyist.

[scott13]

Sorry if this has been posted already, but were updates made to the FA compensation picks to reflect the new changes MLB made a year or 2 ago?

UPDATE: Found it! Looking forward to the release!

[texasmame]

Originally Posted by klkitchens

What is "The Show"? And if it's not a realistic simulation, then it's no more comparable than the board game "Monopoly" and not really relevant to this discussion.

Good you don't like the graphical realism presented, but fortunately OOTP decided to add it in to make the great game even better. The kings of the past, Earl Weaver Baseball, FPS: Baseball and High Heat were all realistic (for their time) sim engines AND graphically pleasing.

No one is asking for an arcade, twitch, controller driven game and it's silly to imagine that improved visuals implies that in any way, shape, or form.

Graphics ARE a perk. But they are not an unimportant one. The pawns from two years ago were a nice touch. I skipped last year's release and hoping this year's release ups the animation dramatically.

There's room for all in the OOTP tent and for me, seeing the game played out is the thing OOTP has been missing until the last few years.

That truth said, I'm not sure you're in the minority though. Seems the text-sim-ophiles are very resistant when it comes to fixing anything outside the hood.

When they added the graphics, I said all I wanted was Micro League quality presentation. I have that and then some. If they stopped improving the graphics now, I'd probably be fine with it.


Now, to just get zombie Ernie Harwell up and get to work on that sweet play-by-play audio!

[ecd1973]

Originally Posted by texasmame

Now, to just get zombie Ernie Harwell up and get to work on that sweet play-by-play audio!

Yes! I'm dying for something like this. Even just basic play by play lines recorded and then expanded over the years.

[IanIachimoe]

I would love to be able to see a Player's 'rest status' by hovering over the player instead of having to go to his player page.

[klkitchens]

Just looked it up and "The Show" is an arcade PS4 game, so not really relevant to this discussion at all (sorry, not up on console kiddie stuff).

So that leads us to the bad news. MLB: The Show 19 continues this trend and is exclusive to the PS4.

OOTP > "The (no) Show"
PC > Consoles

[Walter Alston]

MLB just today (March 14) announced rules changes for this season, including reducing the time between innings to 2 minutes. I would like to see this change incorporated for real-time sims in OOTP XX. I believe the real-time sim in OOTP 19 and earlier versions expends 3 full minutes between innings. Hope you can make this change, and thanks!

[ink625]

Originally Posted by klkitchens

Just looked it up and "The Show" is an arcade PS4 game, so not really relevant to this discussion at all (sorry, not up on console kiddie stuff).

So that leads us to the bad news. MLB: The Show 19 continues this trend and is exclusive to the PS4.

OOTP > "The (no) Show"
PC > Consoles

The Show is not an "arcade" game.

[Cactusguy21]

Originally Posted by ink625

The Show is not an "arcade" game.

It kinda is. It's basically the Madden of baseball.

[ink625]

Originally Posted by Cactusguy21

It kinda is. It's basically the Madden of baseball.

No, it's a simulation. Just because a game doesn't simulate baseball as well as OOTP, doesn't mean it's an arcade game.

[klkitchens]

Originally Posted by ink625

No, it's a simulation. Just because a game doesn't simulate baseball as well as OOTP, doesn't mean it's an arcade game.

OK... so gamers don't press buttons on controllers to throw, field and hit? Cause that would make it an arcade game if it included those things. But you're insisting it does not, so that means it doesn't have those, right?

[TwinsGuy11]

The Show is sim and Madden is arcade.

Comparing them would be like saying Transformers and Saving Private Ryan are both historical war films

[klkitchens]

Originally Posted by TwinsGuy11

The Show is sim and Madden is arcade.

Comparing them would be like saying Transformers and Saving Private Ryan are both historical war films

Nope. Both clearly ARCADE

Last year's manual: https://docs.playstation.com/reader/...apter=1&page=1

The entire first chapter shows the arcade controls for batting, throwing, pitching, etc...

That is NOT a simulation by any stretch of the imagination, but an arcade game.

The greats of baseball games past, FPS and High Heat had arcade and sim modes (two distinct modes). Gamers controlling the on-field action apart from issuing commands is solely arcade.

[itsmb8]

Originally Posted by klkitchens

Nope. Both clearly ARCADE

Last year's manual: https://docs.playstation.com/reader/...apter=1&page=1

The entire first chapter shows the arcade controls for batting, throwing, pitching, etc...

That is NOT a simulation by any stretch of the imagination, but an arcade game.

The greats of baseball games past, FPS and High Heat had arcade and sim modes (two distinct modes). Gamers controlling the on-field action apart from issuing commands is solely arcade.

This is the first time I've heard your name on these forums and I already hate you. What if you play The Show as CPU vs CPU? Is it sim then?

[itsmb8]

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[klkitchens]

Originally Posted by itsmb8

This is the first time I've heard your name on these forums and I already hate you. What if you play The Show as CPU vs CPU? Is it sim then?

Originally Posted by itsmb8

Oh, so youre one of those "PC Master Race" douchebags?

Wow... hatred and namecalling. You're an angry elf aren't you?

But still common sense says you cannot compare apples and oranges (well you can, but not equally). A PC Simulation getting compared to a Console Arcade Game is not a kosher comparison to any thinking person.

So just calm down, drink your juice box and wait for your Barney rerun to come on.

[ink625]

Originally Posted by klkitchens

OK... so gamers don't press buttons on controllers to throw, field and hit? Cause that would make it an arcade game if it included those things. But you're insisting it does not, so that means it doesn't have those, right?

No, those things don't make it an arcade game, and it is absolutely absurd to say otherwise. There is literally no discussion to be had here. You're wrong.

[klkitchens]

Originally Posted by ink625

No, those things don't make it an arcade game, and it is absolutely absurd to say otherwise. There is literally no discussion to be had here.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, if you're closed minded as you demonstrate, there never will be a discussion. What do you imagine are the qualities separating an arcade game from a simulation?

Realistic output is not a determining factor and never has been. Player control is. Sorry you cannot accept reality, but there it is.

Anyway, the facts are clear... and this really is off-topic. Even if it were a fantasyland where The Show was a simulation, it's still a PS4 only game and still not comparable to a PC game in terms of audience of this forum. Gamers cannot be correctly pointed to a game for a different system to fulfill some missing capability of this game. Makes zero sense.

Thankfully the developers have added 3d mode and are improving it each release.

Enough said. You can have the last word if you want it.

[texasmame]

Originally Posted by itsmb8

This is the first time I've heard your name on these forums and I already hate you.

Boy, that escalated quickly.

[texasmame]

If you have to use *proper timing* when pushing the buttons, then it's an arcade game, not a simulation since your interaction can impact the outcome.

Babe Ruth himself would hit .000 if you always hit the button too late or too early.

Thus - arcade and not sim.