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Old 11-18-2019, 11:12 AM   #1
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Help me create a baseball Euroleague

The year is 2059 and baseball has split into the nationalistic USBL (Americans only generally inward-looking cities) and the global looking WBA (teams in major, global American cities, plus Mexico City, Canada, London, Sydney, Germany, France and Israel with no player restrictions). Asia has countered after 20 years with their own, high $$ league and now Europe wants to get into the act. I'm basing this vaguely on basketball Euroleague and want help thinking through what 12 teams should be in the league. 12 teams feels like a max as no other league has more than 12

Currently I have
sure things
1. Real Madrid
2. Barcelona
3. Bayern Munich
biggest clubs in most successful sports countries in Europe add another sport to their structure

4. CKA St Petersburg
5. Dynamo Moscow
the huge money Russian billionaires promised means, like Euroleague hoops, the Russians get 2 teams in despite being the EU's rival still

6. Amsterdam City
7. Rotterdam Reds
the baseball history of the Netherlands means they surely get two teams in

the maybes
8. Marseille Olympiques
France has a team in the WBA, adding a second here makes some sense

9. BC Milano
10. Fortitudo Bologna
Italy is a massively important country in Europe, huge sporting success, and baseball history. They surely should have 2

hemming and hawing
11. Sparta Praga-Czechia has invested a ton in sports and is a sports-mad country. Geographically there aren't many teams nearby
12. Olympiacos
13. Panathanikos
a huge rivalry with these Greece teams would be nice to add to the league, the history of great basketball and the Olympic touch makes Greece attractive but it is a small, poor country. Can we give 2 slots here, and 1 just seems odd
14. BC Porto-Portuguese side
15. Stockholm Monarchs-gives us a Scandanavian flavor
16. Red Bull Salzburg-the modern, efficient program that took over racing and soccer looks toward building a baseball monster in the Alpine beauty of Salzburg
17. Brussels Royal Guard
18. Donbass Redblack (A similar idea to Russia, deep-pocketed Ukrainian billionaires fund it)
19. Davos Stags (venture capitalists run a club playing in a tiny stadium but with some of most amazing support systems, training facilities, etc)
20. Espoo Blues or Helsinki Jokerit (Finnish team who have long background in Finnish baseball "Pesäpallo" and have made transition to powerhouse baseball club)
21. Union Berlin (a northern German hipster club in opposition to Frankfurt/Bayern/Salzburg in the very commercialized south)
22. SC Partizan Belgrade (the passionate Serbian fans make voice hearc, intimidating home field and Balkans get a squad)
23. Ankara Warriors We are already outside the eurozone with Russia, why not add in fellow basketball powerhouse Turkey. they are passionate about sports and fill their stadiums with crazy fans, why not try baseball. Could have a big rivalry with the Greek sides

any other ideas are welcome, I want league to feel somewhat realistic and unique and am really thinking on which teams to add?

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Old 11-18-2019, 11:49 AM   #2
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For kicks I will suggest a London team maybe with a small market and fan base because the new league would try to get a foothold in a country with a high economic base. Maybe as an expansion down the road.
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:52 AM   #3
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Ah yes, sorry I should have put that clearly. There are already London and Glasgow teams in the wba and in this story this euroleague wants to be separate from anything UK
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Old 11-18-2019, 12:26 PM   #4
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What other European cities are already in the WBA?
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Old 11-18-2019, 01:59 PM   #5
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Frankfurt
Paris
London
Glasgow
Tel Aviv
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:00 PM   #6
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If there was a rivalry option in the game, I would choose the two Greek teams
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:01 PM   #7
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Okay, I would go for the two Greek teams!
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:22 PM   #8
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I am leaning toward them...now wondering if I should add Turkish team as well. For rivalry purposes and they have passionate fans, love basketball, maybe add baseball as well
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If there was a rivalry option in the game, I would choose the two Greek teams
would love if they added this, I have spreadsheets documeting rivalries and burgeoning rivalries in my game already, they are all in my head though. the hook to the Euroleague could be all these "pre-made" rivalries

right now NY-Toronto is the old school on-the-field rivalry, SA-Indianapolis and SA-Vegas as well. Buffalo-Rochester quite hot also along with other geographical ones like LA-SF and Brooklyn-NY
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:26 PM   #10
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I am leaning toward them...now wondering if I should add Turkish team as well. For rivalry purposes and they have passionate fans, love basketball, maybe add baseball as well
Sounds plausible, aren`t you going over 12 teams then?

Are you from Europe too?
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Sounds plausible, aren`t you going over 12 teams then?

Are you from Europe too?
I can shuffle around some...if we have the 7 sure things + 2 Greeks + Turkish team we are at 10. Probably would add 2 Italian teams and leave Marseille out. Could possibly add a 2nd tier at some point but want to reign myself in a bit, I love this league because I've kept it manageable for a while and this is already pushing it to the edge

not from Europe but have lived there a while and follow a lot of the sports scene.
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I can shuffle around some...if we have the 7 sure things + 2 Greeks + Turkish team we are at 10. Probably would add 2 Italian teams and leave Marseille out. Could possibly add a 2nd tier at some point but want to reign myself in a bit, I love this league because I've kept it manageable for a while and this is already pushing it to the edge

not from Europe but have lived there a while and follow a lot of the sports scene.
Yeah, the Italian teams deserve to be in it, such a big history in Euro baseball, IMHO
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Old 11-19-2019, 05:25 AM   #13
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created it

Barcelona
Real Madrid
Bayern
CKA St Petersburg
Dynamo Moscow
Fortitudo Bologna
Amsterdam City
Rotterdam Reds
Panathanaikos
Olympiacos
Marseille
RB Salzburg

already wondering about a second tier...must wait
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If you decides for a second tier, here my recommendation for german teams:

- Dortmund (Borussia Dortmund)
- RB Leipzig

or

1860 München (Munich) in addition to Bayern Munich
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Old 11-19-2019, 07:46 AM   #15
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already have a 2nd tier planned

Union Berlin
Hamburg
Roma
Milano
Sparta Praha
Donbass (Ukraine)
Fenerbahce
Espoo (Finland)
Partizan Belgrade (Serbia)
The Hague Storks
Antwerp City
Davos (Switzerland)

I can justify a second-tier of my worst league because I do have an affinity for European sports
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already have a 2nd tier planned

Union Berlin
Hamburg
Roma
Milano
Sparta Praha
Donbass (Ukraine)
Fenerbahce
Espoo (Finland)
Partizan Belgrade (Serbia)
The Hague Storks
Antwerp City
Davos (Switzerland)

I can justify a second-tier of my worst league because I do have an affinity for European sports
Go Storks!

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The real Storks actually play on a field a 10 minute walk from where I live

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I’ve actually played on that field!
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So did you consider making it a pro/rel league since its a Euro league? I have a North American 100 team 4 division pro/rel league that I modeled after the UK football system and I absolutely love it.
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I’ve actually played on that field!
Get outta here! When were you in The Hague?
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