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02-24-2020, 06:30 AM | #1 |
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Card list
Remember when we had a card list to start PT 2.0
THAT WAS AWESOME!!! Can we have one again? with stats, that's updated semi often? PLEASE!!! |
02-25-2020, 03:47 AM | #3 |
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We have not decided yet if we will officially release a card list this year. We'll see Somebody will compile one and share it anyway...
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02-25-2020, 05:45 AM | #4 |
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It would probably be helpful for those who are interested in filling out the card suggestion form to know who already exists.
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02-25-2020, 12:46 PM | #5 | |
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I honestly don't understand why there isn't some rudimentary list (one that doesn't have to include any ratings, though admittedly overall might be helpful) accessible in game. This would help collectors quite a lot. I don't even know for certain how many Rangers I'm missing in 20
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02-25-2020, 01:30 PM | #6 | |
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02-25-2020, 05:41 PM | #7 |
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CardID, Name, Team, Year/PEAK, Position, Overall Rating would suffice. Anything else would be a bonus. Then at least one would know there is a one-off better Dizzy Trout floating around... Would make life much easier building theme teams. Thanks in advance/Besten Dank im Voraus und VG :-) |
02-25-2020, 10:45 PM | #8 | |
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I may do a Google sheet and find a few people on here to give edit permissions to as well. EDIT: Correction - I am doing a Google sheet. Will have OVR, name, Card ID, team (for the live cards tab they're organized by team though; non-live are organized by card type), year (for non-live), CON/STU, POW/MOV, EYE/CON, and primary position DEF. Attributes are set to auto-color when entered. Collections separated (for now) into tabs for live card collections, historic team collections, and other collections. Index page with links to live teams, non-live card types, and collections by name. Headers for teams using actual team color hex codes. Also a field in the card list for collections, with links to the collection, and player list in collections will link back to the general list with attributes. Also I'll include check boxes for anyone who wants to save a copy for their personal use. Hopefully I can get a few volunteers to give permissions to who can chip in and enter cards after release. Last edited by Warhawk; 02-26-2020 at 03:04 AM. |
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02-26-2020, 09:35 AM | #10 | |
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What would be super helpful is to get a few people to split up the work of updating the live card attributes each week. If it's just me I'll probably stagger it and do 10 teams per week. |
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02-28-2020, 08:42 AM | #11 | |
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And I put this somewhere already but I thought maybe a thread about strategy in this version if that's not already just about wrapped up & finished could be positive in that respect, too. I don't have lots of complaints about the current strategies but it occurred to me that the ways to manage/plan strategy a team that you don't quite manage in-game are rather numerous ...maybe a few users have some "out of the park" ideas when it comes to strategy.
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02-28-2020, 09:44 AM | #12 |
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Amateur dbase operators would be better served by offering nothing more than raw card data--no ratings, no judgments, no 'overall' evaluations, no 'expected perfornance'--and let the end users do what they want the raw card numbers.
All such data is readily available in-game at any time, anyway. Your only problem would be updates. The reason they don't? Time. Who wants to deal with the clamor of players desperate for updates once a week, every week, on a pro bono basis? This is a job for a team of users. In lieu of a team, proprietary guarding/hoarding of data, ratings, and strategies etc. is a predictable result. If I miss a week of updates, it affects no one but me. Free, but happy. Best of all, I can use my own damned rating systems without someone griping about which dudes should be rated higher. Really should clean all the spreadsheets off my desktop before next season, tho. Last edited by Lemandria; 02-28-2020 at 09:58 AM. |
02-28-2020, 04:46 PM | #13 |
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I dont understand this question. How are we supposed to know which cards to be working towards acquiring, ie The "perfect" Perfect Team, unless we know what all the cards are? Imagine playing a game like WoW and just being told "there are gear drops" but nothing more. Why put the onus on us to have to make a master list with never knowing if its complete or not.
You have to tell us all the cards by at least overall number at minimum. So why not just release a list of every card with every rating. |
02-28-2020, 06:21 PM | #14 |
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This issue was discussed ad nauseam last year and the Devs decided to release the database. There are some good reasons to do that, and some good reasons not to. I preferred NOT knowing the details, but am probably in the minority. Whichever way they decide to do it this year, I'll live with it.
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02-28-2020, 07:39 PM | #15 | |
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What would you do if it was your decision and 20,000 people had 15,000 different points of view?
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02-29-2020, 01:04 AM | #16 |
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Seems simple to me. Put it out, people who care can look, people who dont want to can not look.
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02-29-2020, 01:25 AM | #17 | |
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For the casual player, the Auction House is the simplest, quickest way to discover cards. It is the closest thing we have to a comprehensive list of players in the game, and it hasn't exactly been the most user-friendly of tools.
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02-29-2020, 01:18 PM | #18 | |
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02-29-2020, 03:49 PM | #19 |
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I am trying to think of the cons of releasing the card list but I cannot think of any cons.
So why would you not release a card list? |
02-29-2020, 06:40 PM | #20 | |
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The major conn is the fact it gets it one step closer to a math formula instead of a game. Give us everything that's happening behind the scenes and all you have to do is plug in the numbers. That's why war games have fog-of-war rules. |
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