Looking for a New Schedule

[luckymann]

Hi team, hope all are well.

Was wondering if someone would be interested in tackling this one whenever time and inspiration permits.

It is for 2 sub-leagues, each with 6 divisions of 8 teams.

It is for 164 games. 2 against each of the 40 teams not in your division and 12 against your 7 division rivals.

I'd like it to start on 1 March and finish some time in late September with an ASG break roughly in the middle.

The quirk here is that I'd like all of the inter-divisional games to be played before the ASG and all of the intra-divisional games to be played after it.

Keen to hear if this is possible and if someone wants to have a go at it.

Many thanks

G

[gmo]

Holy offdays, Batman!

Here is what I came up with in trying to spread out to that March-September length. Let me know what you think...

• Start first Tuesday of March (as opposed to strictly Mar1)
• Play two of the 40 series against interdivision opponents...
• ...then have offday
• Repeat two 2-game series then offday 19 more times
• Interdivision concludes in second week of June
• Then couple offdays, All-Star Game on Friday, couple more offdays
• Second half is 14 weeks of two 3-game series against division opponents with one offday during week
• Season ends between Sep18-24, depending on date it started.

[luckymann]

Originally Posted by gmo

Holy offdays, Batman!

Here is what I came up with in trying to spread out to that March-September length. Let me know what you think...

• Start first Tuesday of March (as opposed to strictly Mar1)
• Play two of the 40 series against interdivision opponents...
• ...then have offday
• Repeat two 2-game series then offday 19 more times
• Interdivision concludes in second week of June
• Then couple offdays, All-Star Game on Friday, couple more offdays
• Second half is 14 weeks of two 3-game series against division opponents with one offday during week
• Season ends between Sep18-24, depending on date it started.

OK, sorry I thought that would make it easier to work with, not harder!

More interested in having the end align with historical "October baseball" playoffs, so scrap that start date, start whenever works and let me know if that makes the whole thing a bit more manageable.

Apols for the mess around, and thanks so much bud.

G

[gmo]

No problem - I was perhaps too (melo)dramatic about the offdays. March through September for 164 games at first glance seems like adding a month for two more games compared to MLB. But MLB is not quite April-September. It is currently 162 games in 186 days.

My lots-of-offdays suggestion above was first half about 100 days, plus about 5 day All Star Break, plus about 98 days for second half. That can be made, it is just so many more offdays than MLB.

Looking to dial back the offdays, I have a couple ideas. Let me know any thoughts you have from this.

Both involve doing the second half the same as above - two 3-game series per week. That is a few more offdays across the half than the average MLB rate. Doing things that way allow to balance the home/away for weekend series - I generally aim to do that so every team gets about the same number of higher attendance weekend games.

For the first half the options are (A) three 2-game series plus one offday per week, which would span 93 days or (B) four 2-game series then an offday, which would span 89 days. With (A) it is probably easier to get the weekend balance, but maybe that could be done well enough with (B).

Let me do a late add of a (C) - five 2-game series then an offday, which would span 87 days and more balanced the slightly more-frequent-than-MLB offdays of the second half by being slightly less-frequent-than-MLB with the offdays.

Having a 4-game All Star Break, those options lead to either 195 days, 191 days, or 189 days for the 164 games.

[luckymann]

Originally Posted by gmo

No problem - I was perhaps too (melo)dramatic about the offdays. March through September for 164 games at first glance seems like adding a month for two more games compared to MLB. But MLB is not quite April-September. It is currently 162 games in 186 days.

My lots-of-offdays suggestion above was first half about 100 days, plus about 5 day All Star Break, plus about 98 days for second half. That can be made, it is just so many more offdays than MLB.

Looking to dial back the offdays, I have a couple ideas. Let me know any thoughts you have from this.

Both involve doing the second half the same as above - two 3-game series per week. That is a few more offdays across the half than the average MLB rate. Doing things that way allow to balance the home/away for weekend series - I generally aim to do that so every team gets about the same number of higher attendance weekend games.

For the first half the options are (A) three 2-game series plus one offday per week, which would span 93 days or (B) four 2-game series then an offday, which would span 89 days. With (A) it is probably easier to get the weekend balance, but maybe that could be done well enough with (B).

Let me do a late add of a (C) - five 2-game series then an offday, which would span 87 days and more balanced the slightly more-frequent-than-MLB offdays of the second half by being slightly less-frequent-than-MLB with the offdays.

Having a 4-game All Star Break, those options lead to either 195 days, 191 days, or 189 days for the 164 games.

First of all, let me express my gratitude to you for putting so much thought into it - really appreciate it.

I am cool with any of those options, with - if pressed - my order of preference being C-B-A. But, like I said, absolutely fine with whichever of them you want to do / end up doing. If this means you can swing a 1 April start date, even better as I love the cleanliness of it - if not, it matters little.

Again, thanks so much mate - truly above and beyond.

G

[gmo]

#
# 96 team schedule, 164 games
# Designed for the following configuration:
# 2 subleague, each with 6 division of 8 teams
#
#
# 12 games against 7 other teams in division (6H/6A)
# 2 games against 40 other teams in subleague (2H or 2A)
# no interleague games
#
# First 80 games are all of the interdivision games (40 2-game series)
# Generally have 5 series then offday
# After All-Star Break is all of the division games
# Division series are two per week with one offday in week
#
# Teams play no more than 12 consecutive days without offday
#
# Homestands and roadtrips as long as 12 games
#
# All teams play total of 39 weekend (Fri/Sat/Sun) home games
#
# All weekday game times set at 7:05pm
# Saturday game times 30%-1:05pm, 20%-4:05pm, 50%-7:05pm
# Sunday game times 60%-1:05pm, 25%-4:05pm, 15%-7:05pm
# Exceptions 1:05pm getaway days (where both teams play elsewhere next day)
#
# Season begins first Friday on or after March 21
# Season ends last Wenesday of September
# Season spans 188 days
#
# All-Star Game first Tuesday on or after June 17 (day 89)
#
# Built 2023-04-27
#

[luckymann]

Originally Posted by gmo

#
# 96 team schedule, 164 games
# Designed for the following configuration:
# 2 subleague, each with 6 division of 8 teams
#
#
# 12 games against 7 other teams in division (6H/6A)
# 2 games against 40 other teams in subleague (2H or 2A)
# no interleague games
#
# First 80 games are all of the interdivision games (40 2-game series)
# Generally have 5 series then offday
# After All-Star Break is all of the division games
# Division series are two per week with one offday in week
#
# Teams play no more than 12 consecutive days without offday
#
# Homestands and roadtrips as long as 12 games
#
# All teams play total of 39 weekend (Fri/Sat/Sun) home games
#
# All weekday game times set at 7:05pm
# Saturday game times 30%-1:05pm, 20%-4:05pm, 50%-7:05pm
# Sunday game times 60%-1:05pm, 25%-4:05pm, 15%-7:05pm
# Exceptions 1:05pm getaway days (where both teams play elsewhere next day)
#
# Season begins first Friday on or after March 21
# Season ends last Wenesday of September
# Season spans 188 days
#
# All-Star Game first Tuesday on or after June 17 (day 89)
#
# Built 2023-04-27
#

What an absolute legend - again, thanks so much!

G

[luckymann]

GMO, if you (or anyone else for that matter) have a chance to do a slight variation on the above it would be monumentally appreciated.

2 sub-leagues, each with 4 divisions of 6 teams = 48 teams total.

It is for 164 games. 2 against each of the 42 teams not in your division and 16 against your 5 division rivals.

Again, I'd like all of the inter-divisional games to be played before the ASG and all of the intra-divisional games to be played after it.

I'd like it to start on 1 March and finish some time in late September but am happy with as close as you can manage to the timeframe you ended up with in the first one from this thread that you kindly drew up for me.

Let me know if possible or if changes need to be made.

Many TIA.

G

[gmo]

#
# 48 team schedule, 164 games
# Designed for the following configuration:
# 2 subleague, each with 4 divisions of 6 teams
#
#
# 16 games against 5 other teams in division (8H/8A)
# 2 games against 18 other teams in subleague (2H or 2A)
# 2 games against 24 other teams in subleague (2H or 2A)
#
# First 84 games are all of the interdivision and interleague games (42 2-game series)
# Will have 6 games then offday or 12 games then offday
# After All-Star Break is all of the division games
# Division series are all 4-game series
# One, two, or in one case three division series between offdays
#
# Teams play no more than 12 consecutive days without offday
# All teams are off on same days
#
# Homestands and roadtrips as long as 12 games
#
# All teams play total of 39-42 weekend (Fri/Sat/Sun) home games
#
# All weekday game times set at 7:05pm
# Saturday game times 30%-1:05pm, 20%-4:05pm, 50%-7:05pm
# Sunday game times 60%-1:05pm, 25%-4:05pm, 15%-7:05pm
# Exceptions 1:05pm getaway days (where both teams play elsewhere next day)
#
# Season begins first Friday on or after March 21
# Season ends last Wednesday of September
# Season spans 188 days
#
# All-Star Game first Tuesday on or after June 24 (day 96)
#
# Built 2023-11-04
#

[luckymann]

Originally Posted by gmo

#
# 48 team schedule, 164 games
# Designed for the following configuration:
# 2 subleague, each with 4 divisions of 6 teams
#
#
# 16 games against 5 other teams in division (8H/8A)
# 2 games against 18 other teams in subleague (2H or 2A)
# 2 games against 24 other teams in subleague (2H or 2A)
#
# First 84 games are all of the interdivision and interleague games (42 2-game series)
# Will have 6 games then offday or 12 games then offday
# After All-Star Break is all of the division games
# Division series are all 4-game series
# One, two, or in one case three division series between offdays
#
# Teams play no more than 12 consecutive days without offday
# All teams are off on same days
#
# Homestands and roadtrips as long as 12 games
#
# All teams play total of 39-42 weekend (Fri/Sat/Sun) home games
#
# All weekday game times set at 7:05pm
# Saturday game times 30%-1:05pm, 20%-4:05pm, 50%-7:05pm
# Sunday game times 60%-1:05pm, 25%-4:05pm, 15%-7:05pm
# Exceptions 1:05pm getaway days (where both teams play elsewhere next day)
#
# Season begins first Friday on or after March 21
# Season ends last Wednesday of September
# Season spans 188 days
#
# All-Star Game first Tuesday on or after June 24 (day 96)
#
# Built 2023-11-04
#

Fantastic stiff, you are a legend!

Thanks so much as always bud.

G

[luckymann]

Hi mate, back again and hoping you can help - hopeful this should be a relatively simple fix or that I can even perhaps use the original?

I've decided to scale back the 96-team league you kindly did the original schedule for to a 48-team league in a single sub-division of 6 divisions each containing 8 teams. In other words, exactly halve it.

Without waiting until I make this change to see if this is the case, are you able to tell me if I can simply use the original schedule by importing it to the single sub-league?

If not, would you be able to provide me with the correct version of it with all other stipulations from the original still intact?

As always, your involvement is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

G

EDIT - I think I see a hurdle for simply repurposing it as is, namely that with one sub-league you can't have an All-Star Game, although I am happy for the break to remain in there nonetheless.

[gmo]

#
# 48 team schedule, 164 games
# Designed for the following configuration:
# 1 subleague with 6 divisions of 8 teams
#
#
# Is simply one of the subleagues from...
# https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/showpost.php?p=5004543&postcount=6
#
# 12 games against 7 other teams in division (6H/6A)
# 2 games against 40 other teams in subleague (2H or 2A)
# no interleague games
#
# First 80 games are all of the interdivision games (40 2-game series)
# Generally have 5 series then offday
# After All-Star Break is all of the division games
# Division series are two per week with one offday in week
#
# Teams play no more than 12 consecutive days without offday
#
# Homestands and roadtrips as long as 12 games
#
# All teams play total of 39 weekend (Fri/Sat/Sun) home games
#
# All weekday game times set at 7:05pm
# Saturday game times 30%-1:05pm, 20%-4:05pm, 50%-7:05pm
# Sunday game times 60%-1:05pm, 25%-4:05pm, 15%-7:05pm
# Exceptions 1:05pm getaway days (where both teams play elsewhere next day)
#
# Season begins first Friday on or after March 21
# Season ends last Wednesday of September
# Season spans 188 days
#
# All-Star Game first Tuesday on or after June 17 (day 89)
#
# Built 2024-03-22
#

[gmo]

Originally Posted by luckymann

Without waiting until I make this change to see if this is the case, are you able to tell me if I can simply use the original schedule by importing it to the single sub-league?

It is possible to take a "single" schedule and apply in "double" for a league, but in this case of scaling back from a "double" to the "single", it requires stripping back the contents to the "single". Fortunately that is a pretty easy thing.

All-Star Game is kept in. That can be removed from the top of the file if you do not want it. Oh, now I finally notice the edit about the All-Star Game. I cannot say for certain, but I believe that these days the game does allow for All-Star Game in single subleague setup if there are an even number of divisions.

[luckymann]

Originally Posted by gmo

It is possible to take a "single" schedule and apply in "double" for a league, but in this case of scaling back from a "double" to the "single", it requires stripping back the contents to the "single". Fortunately that is a pretty easy thing.

All-Star Game is kept in. That can be removed from the top of the file if you do not want it. Oh, now I finally notice the edit about the All-Star Game. I cannot say for certain, but I believe that these days the game does allow for All-Star Game in single subleague setup if there are an even number of divisions.

Thanks so much bud. Am in the middle of the season before these changes will take effect so when the time comes to implement them I will try to schedule the ASG (which I'd still like to have if what you are suggesting is correct) under the new structure and to apply this new schedule. Any issues and I'll come back to you.

Greatly appreciated my man. Have a good weekend.

G