OOTP 15 Update #3 coming at the end of the week.... - Page 2

Trebro · 05-19-2014, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

Hopefully, paying for the license will also mean that MLB will promote OOTP. In that case, the ROI would be worth paying the fee.

MLB has its own games, so I doubt they'd promote anything without paying yet more money to those billionaire owners.

Cinnamon J. Scudworth · 05-19-2014, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatSeventiesGuy

Tampa Bay Non-Satanic Aquatic Creatures

Thanks. I've been looking for a good Tampa team name for my fictional league.

Déjà Bru · 05-19-2014, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by panelpatter

MLB has its own games, so I doubt they'd promote anything without paying yet more money to those billionaire owners.

For his sake, I'd rather just pay the extra $5 that he will pass along to us. [I duck the various objects being virtually thrown at me now.]

OBSL Commish · 05-19-2014, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

For his sake, I'd rather just pay the extra $5 that he will pass along to us. [I duck the various objects being virtually thrown at me now.]

That would be worth it to me as well. We get a hell of a lot of bangs for our bucks with OOTP!

BIG17EASY · 05-19-2014, 01:52 PM

Maybe this would be a pain in the butt for Markus, but maybe he can sell a licensed version for an extra $5-10, and a regular version with no MLB team names at the current price.

Also, does anyone around here know legal issues well enough to know if the MLBPA could raise a stink over player names? I believe MLB: The Show lists an MLBPA license on its credits screen.

Assos · 05-19-2014, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

Maybe this would be a pain in the butt for Markus, but maybe he can sell a licensed version for an extra $5-10, and a regular version with no MLB team names at the current price.

Also, does anyone around here know legal issues well enough to know if the MLBPA could raise a stink over player names? I believe MLB: The Show lists an MLBPA license on its credits screen.

I believe with the US Supreme Court's ruling a few years back about Fantasy Leagues makes that a moot point because OOTP does not use the likeness of the player, just the names, much like fantasy leagues.

patrick_richards1 · 05-19-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatSeventiesGuy

Renamed Franchises:

Really Old League Right Coast:

New York Metropolitans
Atlanta Native American Warriors
Philadelphia Natives of Philadelphia
Miami Large Pointy Fish
Washington Artists Formerly Known As Expos

Really Old League Bunch of Cornfields And Such:

St. Louis Maroon-Colored Birds
Chicago Baby Bears
Pittsburgh Scurvy Sailors of a Criminal Nature
Cincinnati No We Aren't Communists, Thank You Very Much
Milwaukee Guys Who Make Beer

Really Old League Left Coast:

San Francisco Really Large Guys
Los Angeles People Who Avoid Trolleys
San Diego Religious Figures
Arizona Venomous Reptiles
Colorado Mountains That Aren't The Appalachians

Not Quite As Old League Right Coast:

Boston Stockings That Are Sort of Maroon-ish
New York Cartoonish Patriotic Figures
Toronto Birds That Are Blue But Are Not Bluebirds
Baltimore Birds That Are Black and Orange And Are Native To Maryland
Tampa Bay Non-Satanic Aquatic Creatures

Not Quite As Old League Bunch of Cornfields And Such:

Chicago Stockings That Are Rather Pale
Cleveland Indigenous North Americans
Detroit Large Cats That Feature In Circuses But Aren't Lions
Kansas City Monarchical Figures
Minnesota Siblings Born On The Same Day

Not Quite As Old League Left Coast:

Los Angeles Heavenly Religious Symbols of Anaheim
Seattle Non-Criminal Sailors Like In That Coleridge Poem, Except Not As Old
Oakland Sporty Types
Houston Space Travelers Who Aren't The Doctor
Texas Chuck Norrises

i nominate that THESE be the names

RchW · 05-19-2014, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OBSL Commish

Let MLB sue you, Markus. It would be bad publicity for them for going after a small company and great publicity for OOTP. Your sales might just skyrocket!

And you will pay his legal fees?

Donevyn · 05-19-2014, 02:04 PM

Thanks for the update Markus. AND thanks for the work! I truly hope you folks can take some time off soon!!

Harmon Killebrew · 05-19-2014, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by justafan

Nicknames only. There are no MLB logos included with the game.

So I assume that we will still be able to edit the nicknames ourselves to the real name, or whatever we want, as well as use the all-in-one mod to get the logos?

BIG17EASY · 05-19-2014, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Assos

I believe with the US Supreme Court's ruling a few years back about Fantasy Leagues makes that a moot point because OOTP does not use the likeness of the player, just the names, much like fantasy leagues.

Ah, right, I had forgotten about that. However, we have facegens of the players, which is their likeness.

Harmon Killebrew · 05-19-2014, 02:27 PM

Does this include the minor league teams nicknames as well?

skalepp · 05-19-2014, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

Ah, right, I had forgotten about that. However, we have facegens of the players, which is their likeness.

Just like in Fantasy Football...You click a players name and it brings up there picture and stats... So I'd assume this would be fine.

Déjà Bru · 05-19-2014, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

Maybe this would be a pain in the butt for Markus, but maybe he can sell a licensed version for an extra $5-10, and a regular version with no MLB team names at the current price.

This is an excellent suggestion. After all, we are only talking about the MLB Quickstart, correct? Maybe an extra $5 for that, or base price for vanilla. ($10 is pushing it in my book).

RchW · 05-19-2014, 02:41 PM

Could be Oakland Eh's

St. Louis College of men in red.

Déjà Bru · 05-19-2014, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by patrick_richards1

i nominate that THESE be the names

"New York Cartoonish Patriotic Figures"? Ouch.

Tekneek · 05-19-2014, 02:47 PM

I think it is foolish of MLB, but there is probably some unfortunate aspect of the legal system that requires them to serve notice every time something may be infringing and come to an agreement that does not "devalue" the trademarks.

Anyone who does not want this hassle should just make a template of the MLB startup and throw it into a new game each time. It should bypass this issue, shouldn't it?

BIG17EASY · 05-19-2014, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by skalepp

Just like in Fantasy Football...You click a players name and it brings up there picture and stats... So I'd assume this would be fine.

OK, makes sense. I just can't wrap my head around where the line is (or why there would be a line) between a photo at the top of a profile page in a text-based game and a player swinging a bat or throwing a pitch in a console game.

BIG17EASY · 05-19-2014, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

This is an excellent suggestion. After all, we are only talking about the MLB Quickstart, correct? Maybe an extra $5 for that, or base price for vanilla. ($10 is pushing it in my book).

Right. And maybe the "vanilla" version includes the MLB quickstart, but without real team names, basically how it is in the Apple Store now. Personally, I would pay an extra $5 to buy the game with nicknames already in there, mainly as support to Markus & Co., but also because I'd be fine with paying $5 for the game in its current form. But I can understand how some people would choose to save $5-10 and edit the team names themselves.

RchW · 05-19-2014, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

"New York Cartoonish Patriotic Figures"? Ouch.

Could be the Dandies.

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BIG17EASY Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,291	Maybe this would be a pain in the butt for Markus, but maybe he can sell a licensed version for an extra $5-10, and a regular version with no MLB team names at the current price. Also, does anyone around here know legal issues well enough to know if the MLBPA could raise a stink over player names? I believe MLB: The Show lists an MLBPA license on its credits screen.

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Donevyn Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UP, WA Posts: 360	Thanks for the update Markus. AND thanks for the work! I truly hope you folks can take some time off soon!!

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Harmon Killebrew Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 109	Does this include the minor league teams nicknames as well?

05-19-2014, 02:47 PM	#37
Tekneek Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: GA, USA Posts: 453	I think it is foolish of MLB, but there is probably some unfortunate aspect of the legal system that requires them to serve notice every time something may be infringing and come to an agreement that does not "devalue" the trademarks. Anyone who does not want this hassle should just make a template of the MLB startup and throw it into a new game each time. It should bypass this issue, shouldn't it?