Now My Game Won't Work - Page 2

rwd59 · 06-07-2004, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve Kuffrey
I forwarded both links to Markus, I have no idea what the outcome will be but I certainly don't know what the problem is.

That is the only thing I have asked for since the problem started. An acknowledgement that the person who may or unfortunately may not be able to help me knows of the problem. I can show a little more patience now. Notice I said a little.

I have 2 months off and no game to play. What a start to my summer break.

kingpin1976 · 06-08-2004, 01:32 AM

I think you should back up your hard drive and reformat. probably got some sorta messed up dll floating around or something.

Steve Kuffrey · 06-08-2004, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kingpin1976
I think you should back up your hard drive and reformat. probably got some sorta messed up dll floating around or something.

I had that thought as well, but hoped that IF Markus can discover something that may not be necessary.......just not sure if/when he'll be able to check it out.

You might go ahead and do that if it has been awhile.

rwd59 · 06-08-2004, 09:07 AM

I am going to wait a while before going to that extreme. If Markus can't figure it out, I guess I'll have no other choice. So please, if at all possible if there seems to be no solution to my problem, let me know so I can decide if I want to reformat.

rwd59 · 06-08-2004, 02:40 PM

And thanks for the help.

rwd59 · 06-09-2004, 12:16 AM

Another update on my problem: I tried another day for my system restore that worked completely. That solved my problem or so I thought. I was able to get the game to sim a month without a crash. Too good to be true however as when I tried to import a new season the game crashed again. One of those encountered a problem and close with the option to send or not send a report on the error. I then went back into my old season and boom the crash had returned. So close yet so far away!

rwd59 · 06-09-2004, 12:56 AM

This is the Error Signature that popped up:

AppName: OOTP6.exe AppVer:0.0.0.0 ModName:ntdll.dll
ModVer:5.1.2600.1217 Offset: 0000b2ab

If any of this helps.

I also let the full error report get sent in online.

Mike D · 06-09-2004, 12:04 PM

Same kind of thing was happening for me, sort of. I would be able to play a game, when it completed, after simming the rest of the games that day and producing a boxscore, it woul give me an abnormal termination, memory error, or something rather. I ended up reformatting my HD, not for that, but for other reasons, and it has been fine since.

Night2000 · 06-10-2004, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rwd59
This is the Error Signature that popped up:

AppName: OOTP6.exe AppVer:0.0.0.0 ModName:ntdll.dll
ModVer:5.1.2600.1217 Offset: 0000b2ab

If any of this helps.

I also let the full error report get sent in online.

It could be possible that your NTDLL.DLL file is corrupted. It's a windows system file in the Windows\System32\folder.
You could try to to replace it with a fresh copy from your Windows CD. If you are using Windows XP, you can have Windows check it's own system files. It will replace whatever is bad or corrupted in the system files. Click "Start" then "Run" then type in
sfc /scannow it will then silently check it's own system files. If everything is okay you should get no error messages. It will just close without any feedback. See if either of these two suggestions will help.. Good Luck..

rwd59 · 06-10-2004, 03:09 PM

Night, I sent you a PM.

WHarris1 · 06-10-2004, 03:30 PM

I am having this problem as well.

When I try to open my leagues it comes up with the Microsoft C++ Visual yadda yadda

abnormal program termination

rwd59 · 06-10-2004, 05:17 PM

I hate it for you, but I'm glad it's not just me. Are you having problems with any other programs?

WHarris1 · 06-10-2004, 05:30 PM

Nope, just OOTP6. This sucks.

Henry · 06-10-2004, 07:23 PM

If you haven't already, go to upgrade.windows.com and download all patches including the IE6 one. I have a feeling it's either a windows file got overwritten when you installed the MP3 software, or a browser issue. Markus has used a lot of IE routines in OOTP.

moore4807 · 06-10-2004, 07:46 PM

my laptop does this as well - nothing new added since OOTP6
occurred after 6.02a upgrade... this help?
I havent reformatted either....
Thanks for the scan idea

Night2000 · 06-10-2004, 07:47 PM

rwd59 I sent you a PM. It could very well be that one of the programs you recently installed corrupted your system as Henry said. I know this doesn't help your current problem, but in the future you should monitor all your installations. The Windows add/remove option is okay, but it never gets rid of all traces of a program you decide to remove.

A better option which I use is a freeware program called "Total Uninstall" The way it works is simple. You start the program it reads everything on your computer. When it finishes scanning your hard drive and registry it will prompt you to install your program. Install the program. After the program is installed. Let Total Uninstall scan your system again. It will monitor all changes. This way if you get a bad installation. You can always have Total Uninstall totally remove the offending program. It will put your registry back to exactly how it was before the installation, and remove all files that the installation put on your PC. I use it all the time. It's a little more work, but it sure saves a lot of headaches in the future with bad installs.

Of course I also have an external hard drive and have a complete back up of my hard drive so I'm protected that way too. If you have the extra money it would be a great investment to get an external drive and keep a current back up of your PC. This way if you lose data, or your pc gets corrupted beyond repair. You could always reinstall the backup.

Have you searched Google, or the Microsoft knowledge base for errors about the "Ntdll.dll" Also have you turned off all background programs running in your system tray, and then try running OOTP? Also scan for spyware, and adware. Those things can badly mess up a system, and make it run corrupted, or slow.

rwd59 · 06-11-2004, 11:24 AM

Used a couple of spyware programs, no problems there. Found an error in the Microsft Database very similar to mine but not the same (same wording different numbers). Night, sent another PM with a question about the file sizes of my dll file on the disk and on the computer being different before I proceed.

rwd59 · 06-11-2004, 09:22 PM

Henry Night2000 and all who have tried to help. No luck. Downloaded all updates and patches. Scanned for viruses and spyware. Searched for all ntdll errors. I long for a tech support # to try to solve this crap. Waiting around really gets old but this is all I've got so gotta live with it. It always crashes at the end of games never in the middle if I try to play games. I know Markus is working on the patch/update and his new job so he doesn't have much time for one or two individuals problems but I think I have been very patient so far considering I can't play the game. But I gotta hard time believing the problem is not an OOTP problem when OOTP is the only thing not working.

Henry · 06-11-2004, 09:33 PM

rwd... might have asked this, but it's important... does this happen only with one league or all leagues ? If only one, there's a corrupted league file somewhere - if all leagues - given everything you have tried, it might be time to reformat.

rwd59 · 06-11-2004, 09:37 PM

All leagues. Can't even import new leagues. I have a hard time being convinced to do all that it takes to reformat when only OOTP will not work. If I had other problems, sure. But I don't. When and if I hear from THE MAN that it is my only option, then I will have to weigh my options as to where I want to keep playing this game or not. But I probably will.

06-08-2004, 09:07 AM	#24
rwd59 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LA (Lower Alabama) Posts: 780	I am going to wait a while before going to that extreme. If Markus can't figure it out, I guess I'll have no other choice. So please, if at all possible if there seems to be no solution to my problem, let me know so I can decide if I want to reformat. Last edited by rwd59; 06-08-2004 at 02:39 PM.

06-09-2004, 12:16 AM	#26
rwd59 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LA (Lower Alabama) Posts: 780	Another update on my problem: I tried another day for my system restore that worked completely. That solved my problem or so I thought. I was able to get the game to sim a month without a crash. Too good to be true however as when I tried to import a new season the game crashed again. One of those encountered a problem and close with the option to send or not send a report on the error. I then went back into my old season and boom the crash had returned. So close yet so far away! Last edited by rwd59; 06-09-2004 at 12:35 AM.

06-09-2004, 12:04 PM	#28
Mike D Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In a van, down by the river Posts: 2,789	Same kind of thing was happening for me, sort of. I would be able to play a game, when it completed, after simming the rest of the games that day and producing a boxscore, it woul give me an abnormal termination, memory error, or something rather. I ended up reformatting my HD, not for that, but for other reasons, and it has been fine since. __________________ Sometimes the best laid plans will never get you laid the way you plan.

06-10-2004, 07:46 PM	#35
moore4807 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: Punta Gorda FL. Posts: 1,382	abnormal... crash my laptop does this as well - nothing new added since OOTP6 occurred after 6.02a upgrade... this help? I havent reformatted either.... Thanks for the scan idea

06-10-2004, 07:47 PM	#36
Night2000 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Monroe, NJ Posts: 716	rwd59 I sent you a PM. It could very well be that one of the programs you recently installed corrupted your system as Henry said. I know this doesn't help your current problem, but in the future you should monitor all your installations. The Windows add/remove option is okay, but it never gets rid of all traces of a program you decide to remove. A better option which I use is a freeware program called "Total Uninstall" The way it works is simple. You start the program it reads everything on your computer. When it finishes scanning your hard drive and registry it will prompt you to install your program. Install the program. After the program is installed. Let Total Uninstall scan your system again. It will monitor all changes. This way if you get a bad installation. You can always have Total Uninstall totally remove the offending program. It will put your registry back to exactly how it was before the installation, and remove all files that the installation put on your PC. I use it all the time. It's a little more work, but it sure saves a lot of headaches in the future with bad installs. Of course I also have an external hard drive and have a complete back up of my hard drive so I'm protected that way too. If you have the extra money it would be a great investment to get an external drive and keep a current back up of your PC. This way if you lose data, or your pc gets corrupted beyond repair. You could always reinstall the backup. Have you searched Google, or the Microsoft knowledge base for errors about the "Ntdll.dll" Also have you turned off all background programs running in your system tray, and then try running OOTP? Also scan for spyware, and adware. Those things can badly mess up a system, and make it run corrupted, or slow. __________________ http://night2000.blogspot.com/ This post has the Al Bundy and Homer Simpson stamp of approval! Last edited by Night2000; 06-10-2004 at 11:28 PM.

06-08-2004, 01:32 AM	#22
kingpin1976 Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 402	I think you should back up your hard drive and reformat. probably got some sorta messed up dll floating around or something.

06-08-2004, 02:40 PM	#25
rwd59 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LA (Lower Alabama) Posts: 780	And thanks for the help.

06-09-2004, 12:56 AM	#27
rwd59 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LA (Lower Alabama) Posts: 780	This is the Error Signature that popped up: AppName: OOTP6.exe AppVer:0.0.0.0 ModName:ntdll.dll ModVer:5.1.2600.1217 Offset: 0000b2ab If any of this helps. I also let the full error report get sent in online.

06-10-2004, 03:09 PM	#30
rwd59 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LA (Lower Alabama) Posts: 780	Night, I sent you a PM.

06-10-2004, 03:30 PM	#31
WHarris1 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4	I am having this problem as well. When I try to open my leagues it comes up with the Microsoft C++ Visual yadda yadda abnormal program termination

06-10-2004, 05:17 PM	#32
rwd59 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LA (Lower Alabama) Posts: 780	I hate it for you, but I'm glad it's not just me. Are you having problems with any other programs?

06-10-2004, 05:30 PM	#33
WHarris1 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4	Nope, just OOTP6. This sucks.

06-10-2004, 07:23 PM	#34
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	If you haven't already, go to upgrade.windows.com and download all patches including the IE6 one. I have a feeling it's either a windows file got overwritten when you installed the MP3 software, or a browser issue. Markus has used a lot of IE routines in OOTP.

06-11-2004, 11:24 AM	#37
rwd59 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LA (Lower Alabama) Posts: 780	Used a couple of spyware programs, no problems there. Found an error in the Microsft Database very similar to mine but not the same (same wording different numbers). Night, sent another PM with a question about the file sizes of my dll file on the disk and on the computer being different before I proceed.

06-11-2004, 09:22 PM	#38
rwd59 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LA (Lower Alabama) Posts: 780	Henry Night2000 and all who have tried to help. No luck. Downloaded all updates and patches. Scanned for viruses and spyware. Searched for all ntdll errors. I long for a tech support # to try to solve this crap. Waiting around really gets old but this is all I've got so gotta live with it. It always crashes at the end of games never in the middle if I try to play games. I know Markus is working on the patch/update and his new job so he doesn't have much time for one or two individuals problems but I think I have been very patient so far considering I can't play the game. But I gotta hard time believing the problem is not an OOTP problem when OOTP is the only thing not working. Last edited by rwd59; 06-11-2004 at 09:28 PM.

06-11-2004, 09:33 PM	#39
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	rwd... might have asked this, but it's important... does this happen only with one league or all leagues ? If only one, there's a corrupted league file somewhere - if all leagues - given everything you have tried, it might be time to reformat.

06-11-2004, 09:37 PM	#40
rwd59 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LA (Lower Alabama) Posts: 780	All leagues. Can't even import new leagues. I have a hard time being convinced to do all that it takes to reformat when only OOTP will not work. If I had other problems, sure. But I don't. When and if I hear from THE MAN that it is my only option, then I will have to weigh my options as to where I want to keep playing this game or not. But I probably will. Last edited by rwd59; 06-11-2004 at 09:40 PM.