Bronze market has collapsed - Page 4

Abnerdoubleday · 11-28-2018, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

As predicted...

Feeding Frenzy

Westheim · 11-28-2018, 06:11 PM

Looks like the market only needed about six hours to get back to the late beta state.

Orcin · 11-28-2018, 06:17 PM

Everyone is trying to sell cards at ridiculous prices right now, and there are only so many buyers that have the cash.

Westheim · 11-28-2018, 06:25 PM

Well I snatched a Cespedes for 800, when a few hours ago comparable cards went for 2-4k.

And while the prices for gold+ are still lofty (there is a Canseco (89) for 30k f.e.), bronze prices have crashed already and I think silvers and low-end golds are going down too. I might have overpaid when I shelled out 2,500 for Carlos Martinez and 2,600 for Bogaerts

I would wish for some functionality that allows you to see how many cards you are missing to complete a team (including historical and future cards), because that would create actual interest in f.e. historical bronzes. I saw a stash of Mitch Williamses move through earlier, and couldn't get rid of mine either.

zrog2000 · 11-29-2018, 11:20 AM

Ichiro cards should go for way more PP. Mine is on pace for a 9.6 WAR season and is hitting .436. Also on pace for 328 hits. haha

ASURay · 11-30-2018, 10:23 AM

I'm having a hard time moving any bronze cards. I have a Holt up for a 100 buy now and no takers. I have three 69 OVR Ichiro cards up for 400 min bid and 1,000 buy now. They would've gone for that easily in the beta. Now I can't even get a bid. I think all but a small handful of bronzes are just quick sell fodder. Does anyone even bother listing any common cards? I just sell them for 5 PP.

ASURay · 11-30-2018, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ASURay

I'm having a hard time moving any bronze cards. I have a Holt up for a 100 buy now and no takers. I have three 69 OVR Ichiro cards up for 400 min bid and 1,000 buy now. They would've gone for that easily in the beta. Now I can't even get a bid. I think all but a small handful of bronzes are just quick sell fodder. Does anyone even bother listing any common cards? I just sell them for 5 PP.

I still list the bronze at a 30 min/35 buy now in case anyone wants them. I don't even bother with the commons, but I guess set collectors might want them for 6 PP.

Galeg · 11-30-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ASURay

I'm having a hard time moving any bronze cards. I have a Holt up for a 100 buy now and no takers. I have three 69 OVR Ichiro cards up for 400 min bid and 1,000 buy now. They would've gone for that easily in the beta. Now I can't even get a bid. I think all but a small handful of bronzes are just quick sell fodder. Does anyone even bother listing any common cards? I just sell them for 5 PP.

I put all of mine up because I imagine there are other people like me that like buying those cards on a whim sometimes and ... can't buy them if they're not for sale.

ASURay · 11-30-2018, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Galeg

I put all of mine up because I imagine there are other people like me that like buying those cards on a whim sometimes and ... can't buy them if they're not for sale.

Eventually there will need to be some kind of way to list cards in bulk. I'd list all my bronze cards if I could do a bulk "30 min bid/35 buy now/24 hours/sell if not bid on" thing. Same for commons but with 6 min/10 buy now.

Orcin · 11-30-2018, 11:13 AM

The bronze market has officially tanked. What comes next? The 2018 Live cards are glutting the AH right now because people have yet to grasp the concept of supply and demand. Soon, someone will realize that they will need to price their card lower than the next guy to sell it, and then the 2018 market for all levels except perfect will fall. What will remain strong is the market for perfects and historical cards (because of limited supply and high demand).

Westheim · 11-30-2018, 02:32 PM

Yup, regular 40's you can trash right away for 5 PP, saves you hassle. But I sold a Boots Poffenberger (41?) for 60 PP last night.

Whoofe · 11-30-2018, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

Yup, regular 40's you can trash right away for 5 PP, saves you hassle. But I sold a Boots Poffenberger (41?) for 60 PP last night.

I woulda paid 20 PP just for the name!

mikezone13 · 11-30-2018, 06:26 PM

I have incredibly rare Marv Throneberry, about a 40 or 41 rated card....

Orcin · 11-30-2018, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mikezone13

I have incredibly rare Marv Throneberry, about a 40 or 41 rated card....

I think these have value to collectors. The 2018 Live commons are vendor trash.

Thalion · 11-30-2018, 09:54 PM

Marvelous Marv is in the game?!!!

mikezone13 · 12-01-2018, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Thalion

Marvelous Marv is in the game?!!!

Indeed... I even have a 15PP bid on Marv right now... I have no interest in collecting him obviously

He can be yours with a buy now of 150

peterbernard209 · 12-01-2018, 08:12 AM

I was bored in-between games yesterday and had no $$$ to improve my lineup or pitching staff, so I started collecting the best sub-gold cards and specialty players-- all run no hit, all field no hit, etc. We all have discovered Ichiro playing like a gold card-- did you know Jeff Samardjia makes a great middle inning reliever? I have Aaron Judge on my team (got him in a $1 pack) but the team leader in homers is Joc Pederson, a silver card. Steve Pearce is a bronze player who has 15 homers for me in 350 ABs. I had Dom DiMaggio, who is an excellent fielder and mediocre hitter, but he got edged out as a backup when I acquired Andrew McCutchen. I'm dying to have a second team so I can try out players like Roy A. Thomas, a SEVERE all-singles hitter with an 87 eye from 1901, or Willie Wilson, a gold glove left fielder from the early 80s with lightning speed, 74 contact and 55 gap power. These guys don't fit on my team but I'd love to play them. Also, I'd like to play catcher Darrell Porter, but that's just because when I was a kid, he gave me a baseball at a Yankees/Brewers game! I would join a Bronze and Below or Silver and Below league IN A SECOND. I would join a tournament too but I'd like a league more.

peterbernard209 · 12-01-2018, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mikezone13

I have incredibly rare Marv Throneberry, about a 40 or 41 rated card....

I would love to play in a Silver or Bronze and under league with rules like must have at least one or two cards rated in the 40's, must have 3 or 4 rated in the 50's-- that sort of thing. It would be much more like 20th century baseball. Also an all oldies card league would be fun.

Crash · 12-03-2018, 03:22 AM

sold a lower 80s SP w/ high era and with the points pulled a 97 Rickey Henderson. .297 .390 38/107 53 sbs in 165 games against these monster teams in entry pool

69 Suzuki is batting .306 with 42 sbs in 170 games. Putting time in moving him around could make him a great backup until the right guy comes along. He's worth way more than the few hundred pp selling his bronze card.

66 Luiz Gohera has 2.38 era in 66 appearances. second lowest era on the team. There are bronze diamonds in the rough!

Whoofe · 12-03-2018, 03:41 PM

I rarely spent more than 200PPs for most players on my team. just gotta be patient, and realize that there are plenty of copies of the bronzes and silvers out there, the market will cycle around and you can pick em up for just above book value

11-28-2018, 06:11 PM	#62
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11-28-2018, 06:25 PM	#64
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 11,903	Well I snatched a Cespedes for 800, when a few hours ago comparable cards went for 2-4k. And while the prices for gold+ are still lofty (there is a Canseco (89) for 30k f.e.), bronze prices have crashed already and I think silvers and low-end golds are going down too. I might have overpaid when I shelled out 2,500 for Carlos Martinez and 2,600 for Bogaerts I would wish for some functionality that allows you to see how many cards you are missing to complete a team (including historical and future cards), because that would create actual interest in f.e. historical bronzes. I saw a stash of Mitch Williamses move through earlier, and couldn't get rid of mine either. __________________ Portland Raccoons, 83 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

11-30-2018, 02:32 PM	#71
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 11,903	Yup, regular 40's you can trash right away for 5 PP, saves you hassle. But I sold a Boots Poffenberger (41?) for 60 PP last night. __________________ Portland Raccoons, 83 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

11-30-2018, 06:26 PM	#73
mikezone13 All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 533	I have incredibly rare Marv Throneberry, about a 40 or 41 rated card.... __________________ AFBL New Jersey Athletics FOD Boston Shamrocks GLBL Milwaukee Eagles HRBL Toronto Stags PBF Commish only ABL (old SBC) Commish only

12-01-2018, 08:12 AM	#77
peterbernard209 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 119	I'm collecting lower numbered cards I was bored in-between games yesterday and had no $$$ to improve my lineup or pitching staff, so I started collecting the best sub-gold cards and specialty players-- all run no hit, all field no hit, etc. We all have discovered Ichiro playing like a gold card-- did you know Jeff Samardjia makes a great middle inning reliever? I have Aaron Judge on my team (got him in a $1 pack) but the team leader in homers is Joc Pederson, a silver card. Steve Pearce is a bronze player who has 15 homers for me in 350 ABs. I had Dom DiMaggio, who is an excellent fielder and mediocre hitter, but he got edged out as a backup when I acquired Andrew McCutchen. I'm dying to have a second team so I can try out players like Roy A. Thomas, a SEVERE all-singles hitter with an 87 eye from 1901, or Willie Wilson, a gold glove left fielder from the early 80s with lightning speed, 74 contact and 55 gap power. These guys don't fit on my team but I'd love to play them. Also, I'd like to play catcher Darrell Porter, but that's just because when I was a kid, he gave me a baseball at a Yankees/Brewers game! I would join a Bronze and Below or Silver and Below league IN A SECOND. I would join a tournament too but I'd like a league more.

11-28-2018, 06:17 PM	#63
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,798	Everyone is trying to sell cards at ridiculous prices right now, and there are only so many buyers that have the cash.

11-29-2018, 11:20 AM	#65
zrog2000 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,335	Ichiro cards should go for way more PP. Mine is on pace for a 9.6 WAR season and is hitting .436. Also on pace for 328 hits. haha

11-30-2018, 10:23 AM	#66
ASURay Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NE Posts: 212	I'm having a hard time moving any bronze cards. I have a Holt up for a 100 buy now and no takers. I have three 69 OVR Ichiro cards up for 400 min bid and 1,000 buy now. They would've gone for that easily in the beta. Now I can't even get a bid. I think all but a small handful of bronzes are just quick sell fodder. Does anyone even bother listing any common cards? I just sell them for 5 PP.

11-30-2018, 11:13 AM	#70
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,798	The bronze market has officially tanked. What comes next? The 2018 Live cards are glutting the AH right now because people have yet to grasp the concept of supply and demand. Soon, someone will realize that they will need to price their card lower than the next guy to sell it, and then the 2018 market for all levels except perfect will fall. What will remain strong is the market for perfects and historical cards (because of limited supply and high demand).

11-30-2018, 09:54 PM	#75
Thalion Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 413	Marvelous Marv is in the game?!!!

12-03-2018, 03:22 AM	#79
Crash Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 46	sold a lower 80s SP w/ high era and with the points pulled a 97 Rickey Henderson. .297 .390 38/107 53 sbs in 165 games against these monster teams in entry pool 69 Suzuki is batting .306 with 42 sbs in 170 games. Putting time in moving him around could make him a great backup until the right guy comes along. He's worth way more than the few hundred pp selling his bronze card. 66 Luiz Gohera has 2.38 era in 66 appearances. second lowest era on the team. There are bronze diamonds in the rough! Last edited by Crash; 12-03-2018 at 03:44 AM.

12-03-2018, 03:41 PM	#80
Whoofe All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 590	I rarely spent more than 200PPs for most players on my team. just gotta be patient, and realize that there are plenty of copies of the bronzes and silvers out there, the market will cycle around and you can pick em up for just above book value