Favorite Player Thread - Page 2

simcrazy · 01-29-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

You really can't make a judgment on any injury setting based on comparisons of the first two months of your simulation vs the first two months of any real life season.

You can, but it'd be a bogus assumption.

I agree. It's hard to test definitely, but at this point, I am going off of around a full season of OOTP13 and I must say that OOTP11 observations play into it.

I think Low is closer to 2011 MLB than Classic, but with not enough smaller injuries. Completely observational and untested.

David Watts · 01-29-2012, 08:43 PM

I get what you mean about too many long injuries, but there is no way the low setting is anywhere close to modern day.

simcrazy · 01-29-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

I get what you mean about too many long injuries, but there is no way the low setting is anywhere close to modern day.

I'm not convinced either - it's hard because it is hard to measure the standard (I'm not sure where I could get total DL days for MLB) and it's hard to measure it in OOTP (same thing). In addition, I'm dealing with a limited data set:

I used low and have played out 4 months. I have had the following injuries (this is not a comprehensive list):

starting 2B out 4 months
best bench player (backup IF at all 4 spots) out 6-7 weeks
#2 starter out 2 weeks and 3 weeks in two different stints
starting 3B out 6 weeks
starting RF out 4 weeks and 3 weeks in two different stints

This seems about right to me, maybe even a bit too harsh. It's funny, because there have been about the same amount of day-to-day injuries, when there should be more of those types of injuries. So for me, low seems reasonable based off the limited sample size, where even Classic seems super harsh.

Cooleyvol · 01-29-2012, 09:07 PM

I wouldn't even attempt to try and test actual DL days. What game is going to mirror that? Your best bet is to test trying to get close to the actual number of injuries.

Worrying about days on the DL is a bit OCD, IMO.

simcrazy · 01-29-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

I wouldn't even attempt to try and test actual DL days. What game is going to mirror that? Your best bet is to test trying to get close to the actual number of injuries.

Worrying about days on the DL is a bit OCD, IMO.

I don't have a big issue with the frequency of injuries in Classic, I have an issue with the number of sever injuries. Measuring by number of injuries wouldn't address this.

Cooleyvol · 01-29-2012, 09:20 PM

Tweaking the frequency setting is not going to adjust the severity of injuries. You'll have to do some modding on the injuries file if you want to have a shot at turning severe injuries down. My advice is lower the frequency and then look at it again after some time.

simcrazy · 01-29-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

Tweaking the frequency setting is not going to adjust the severity of injuries. You'll have to do some modding on the injuries file if you want to have a shot at turning severe injuries down. My advice is lower the frequency and then look at it again after some time.

Thanks for this - I did not realize that lowering the injury setting only affects the frequency and not the severity.

I have no idea how to modify the injuries file.

MizzouRah · 01-29-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by simcrazy

Thanks for this - I did not realize that lowering the injury setting only affects the frequency and not the severity.

I have no idea how to modify the injuries file.

Search the forum, someone made an alternate injury file.

Matson67 · 01-29-2012, 11:02 PM

I have noticed one change in 12 from 11..

I just leave the injury settings on the default.. The only game I change the injury settings on is BM..

I notice in 12 there aren't as many career-ending concussions like I had in 11..

Chicagofan76 · 01-30-2012, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Sim, this is where you run into problems. There is no realistic or unrealistic in this matter. I wasn't complaining, and I don't see Cobb's constant trips to the DL as a problem. I'm playing historical with no recalc and development turned on. Therefore, Ty Cobb is Ty Cobb only by the ratings he enters the game with. OOTP doesn't determine injuries based on a players actual games played and oh how I'm happy it doesn't.

For my replay, Ty Cobb is injury prone. Sure, I was hoping to see if he could get 4000+ hits, but now I have to wonder if he will be able to reach 3000. I'm up to 08/14/1921 and he has 2406. He's hitting .396 over 51 games, but he's once again on the DL. He's 34 years old so his clock is ticking.

Since this is replay, OOTP's injury system is 100% realistic, as it is the only reality my league knows.

I play similar to your style. I just traded for Ichiro in 2006. He has only 1 season (2001) of more then 135 games. No 200 hit seasons, in fact only 1 150 hit season. does have a career avg of .365 though vs .326 IRL.

Chicagofan76 · 01-30-2012, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by simcrazy

I agree. It's hard to test definitely, but at this point, I am going off of around a full season of OOTP13 and I must say that OOTP11 observations play into it.

I think Low is closer to 2011 MLB than Classic, but with not enough smaller injuries. Completely observational and untested.

Hey why are you so special I dont even have 13 yet and I am on the BETA team?
Low is too low, I use normal for 2006 in my 4 leagues. I have some severe injuries and some minor injuries.
Although this is untested, I believe the less players you have in your organization the more severe the injuries and more frequent the injuries are.
I have used low for leagues prior to the '70's.

David Watts · 01-30-2012, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

I play similar to your style. I just traded for Ichiro in 2006. He has only 1 season (2001) of more then 135 games. No 200 hit seasons, in fact only 1 150 hit season. does have a career avg of .365 though vs .326 IRL.

I think stuff like this adds flavor to a league. For me, it brings a league to life.

Antonin · 01-30-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nunyer

I had a pitcher in a fictional league back when I was running OOTP08 that was the classic junkballer...

...Over those 6+ seasons, he had more walks than strikeouts, his WHIP was ugly, but he just didn't give up runs... never seen any other OOTP player consistently defy the mathematics of his ability...

This is why I love the "baseball card" feature that was introduced in more recent versions of the game. It's very useful in preserving memories like this one.

simcrazy · 01-30-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Search the forum, someone made an alternate injury file.

I can't find it, do you have a link? Have you used it? If so, what are your experiences with it?

01-29-2012, 08:43 PM	#22
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 8,865	I get what you mean about too many long injuries, but there is no way the low setting is anywhere close to modern day.

01-29-2012, 09:07 PM	#24
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	I wouldn't even attempt to try and test actual DL days. What game is going to mirror that? Your best bet is to test trying to get close to the actual number of injuries. Worrying about days on the DL is a bit OCD, IMO.

01-29-2012, 09:20 PM	#26
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	Tweaking the frequency setting is not going to adjust the severity of injuries. You'll have to do some modding on the injuries file if you want to have a shot at turning severe injuries down. My advice is lower the frequency and then look at it again after some time.

01-29-2012, 11:02 PM	#29
Matson67 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Peterborough ON Posts: 35	I have noticed one change in 12 from 11.. I just leave the injury settings on the default.. The only game I change the injury settings on is BM.. I notice in 12 there aren't as many career-ending concussions like I had in 11..